Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

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Just monitor your bone density to be safe
Just monitor your bone density to be safe
probably won't take this drug for a long time anyway, Its just a normal experiment. my hair loss is androgenic hair loss + DUPA and as I heard nothing works for it

If you guys think that you got it bad, then look at this.
 

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Nghtly

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probably won't take this drug for a long time anyway, Its just a normal experiment. my hair loss is androgenic hair loss + DUPA and as I heard nothing works for it
Oh f*** I think that i also have DUPA since i always lose hairs on the side also even on my donor area, I lose like twice as much on the side then the top, The sides grow back but its density is way less then i had 6 years ago. I taught DUPA is just the same as any other male pattern baldness and most likely the same treatment required finasteride/Duta/minoxidil etc etc.
 

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Oh f*** I think that i also have DUPA since i always lose hairs on the side also even on my donor area, I lose like twice as much on the side then the top, The sides grow back but its density is way less then i had 6 years ago. I taught DUPA is just the same as any other male pattern baldness and most likely the same treatment required finasteride/Duta/minoxidil etc etc.
Yeah, the treatment is the same but it doesnt work in 99.99% of people. Ive never seen anyone who recover from DUPA.
 
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Yeah, the treatment is the same but it doesnt work in 99.99% of people. Ive never seen anyone who recover from DUPA.
I see, That might be the reason why finasteride tottaly fucked me up. Damn is it even worth for me to try any treatment at this point? What about adrogentic hair loss? Is that like sensitvity to every androgen? For example even the smallest adrogen spike causes hairloss what ever androgen it is?
 

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I see, That might be the reason why finasteride tottaly fucked me up. Damn is it even worth for me to try any treatment at this point? What about adrogentic hair loss? Is that like sensitvity to every androgen? For example even the smallest adrogen spike causes hairloss what ever androgen it is?
Honestly I dont believe that DUPA is androgenic hairloss. I think it might be some kind of autoimmune disease, that’s why nobody response to finasteride/dutasteride etc..

I shed like 200-500 hairs everyday (whole head). They grow back, but much thinner, fine in texture, lifeless.

Anyway, Cyproterone Acetate is my last hope. If it wont work in lets say 3 months then I give up.
 

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Honestly, I dont see any difference, but the most important thing is that you can see it.
My mistake was that I took all the pictures with the flash. In this case, the progress is seen worse, but on the other hand, the detail increases.

Anyway, progressing from Norwood 1 to Norwood 0 takes a long time.
 

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Honestly I dont believe that DUPA is androgenic hairloss. I think it might be some kind of autoimmune disease, that’s why nobody response to finasteride/dutasteride etc..

I shed like 200-500 hairs everyday (whole head). They grow back, but much thinner, fine in texture, lifeless.

Anyway, Cyproterone Acetate is my last hope. If it wont work in lets say 3 months then I give up.
Thats literally me, unpatteren hair loss is the worse.

Best of luck !
 

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I also have a loss of density on the side and in the back of my head, and I responded to HRT. It is too early to talk about the effect, because it takes more than a year to restore the thickness.
 

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I also have a loss of density on the side and in the back of my head, and I responded to HRT. It is too early to talk about the effect, because it takes more than a year to restore the thickness.
Yea... but what is the point of taking HRT If you are a men and feel like a men and you want to stay as a men.

Anyway after 1-2 years you must drop HRT, then you will end up with bald head, boobs, loss of muscle, possible permanent infertility, possible health problems, testicles atrophy etc. This is a good short term solution and what next?

This is a good solution for people who do not feel comfortable as men.

There is no f*****g solution for hairloss, everyone of us end up bald sooner or later, except for REAL trans people who WANT to be a woman
 
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Yea... but what is the point of taking HRT If you are a men and feel like a men and you want to stay as a men.

Anyway after 1-2 years you must drop HRT, then you will end up with bald head, boobs, loss of muscle, possible permanent infertility, possible health problems, testicles atrophy etc. This is a good short term solution and what next?

This is a good solution for people who do not feel comfortable as men.

There is no f*****g solution for hairloss, everyone of us end up bald sooner or later, except for REAL trans people who WANT to be a woman
I am very curious what he has to say on this one tbh. Honestly if you start HRT its already decided that you kinda give up on being a man, In my opinion you still are. But The potential health risk that comes to play in a long term use of AA, I would put hair above allot of things you mention just not the potential health problems.
 

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I am very curious what he has to say on this one tbh. Honestly if you start HRT its already decided that you kinda give up on being a man, In my opinion you still are. But The potential health risk that comes to play in a long term use of AA, I would put hair above allot of things you mention just not the potential health problems.
You know you don't need to use AAs if you'r E in sufficiently high right?
 

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Yea... but what is the point of taking HRT If you are a men and feel like a men and you want to stay as a men.

Anyway after 1-2 years you must drop HRT, then you will end up with bald head, boobs, loss of muscle, possible permanent infertility, possible health problems, testicles atrophy etc. This is a good short term solution and what next?

This is a good solution for people who do not feel comfortable as men.

There is no f*****g solution for hairloss, everyone of us end up bald sooner or later, except for REAL trans people who WANT to be a woman
You overestimate the side effects of HRT and the rate of baldness after giving up on it.
 

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bald head
I will not refuse for a period of more than 9 months, during this time it will not happen
I will remove surgically
loss of muscle
If you take the right drugs, this doesn't happen. Moreover, you can continue to train in the gym like many MTFs and have good muscles.
permanent infertility
I don't care about it
possible health problems
People who say so are unable to give specific examples with evidence, so they use this vague wording
 

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You overestimate the side effects of HRT and the rate of baldness after giving up on it.
I felt like vomiting when I looked at this. Exactly the same when I look at bald guys.


it's physically impossible not to lose muscle while taking estrogen

of course hrt doesnt give you 100% chance to reverse balding and at this time you can get gyno + testicles atrophy. if someone told me my hair would grow back for sure, then maybe I would try. A LOT of trans ppl are bald, a lot of trans ppl have receeding hairline, a lot of bald trans ppl undergo hair transplant.

You must be LUCKY to have a hair regrowth even while taking HRT
 

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You know you don't need to use AAs if you'r E in sufficiently high right?
Is high estrogen monotherapy safe? I have considered adding it to my regimen but I am hesitant due to the possible risks of blood clots. Plus I don't have insurance.
 

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Nothing interesting happens here. The same delusions, people who think they are wise men and hypochondriacs. I see being here in a bunch of retarded people who constantly have to explain the same thing.

Fear further, go bald further. I wanted to help you. I will enjoy life without this terrible defect, good luck to you all.
I'll be back next year with my thread. He who has ears, let him hear.
 

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I felt like vomiting when I looked at this. Exactly the same when I look at bald guys.


it's physically impossible not to lose muscle while taking estrogen

of course hrt doesnt give you 100% chance to reverse balding and at this time you can get gyno + testicles atrophy. if someone told me my hair would grow back for sure, then maybe I would try. A LOT of trans ppl are bald, a lot of trans ppl have receeding hairline, a lot of bald trans ppl undergo hair transplant.

You must be LUCKY to have a hair regrowth even while taking HRT
When you see a trans person being bald is because most of the time they where already pretty much bald to begin with. You can almost be 100% sure that hairloss will completely stop on HRT and there is also a quite hight chance for regrowth, Its also the earlier you begin with the better it is.
 

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When you see a trans person being bald is because most of the time they where already pretty much bald to begin with. You can almost be 100% sure that hairloss will completely stop on HRT and there is also a quite hight chance for regrowth, Its also the earlier you begin with the better it is.
Ok, then why a lot of woman are going bald too? Even when they have normal female ranges hormones

I think genetics is more important than hormones. That’s same with cancer, some people are going to have cancer and some people not regardless of lifestyle, diet, etc.
 
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