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At first, I thought it is fireworks lmao
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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At first, I thought it is fireworks lmao
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What is your regime? Are you on estradiol orally? Are you a cis male? Did you grow boobs? Your dick still working with sperm coming out? I am asking because I am thinking about HRT for my male pattern baldness.
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mi régimen es de 500 mg de flutamida 4 mg de estradiol 1 mg de finasterida minoxidil topico
Han crecido tetadas pero son chicas, llevo 5 meses, el gallo no se encogió pero funciona mal, soy un hombre
[QUOTE = "Father_of_Shiseido, post: 1749048, member: 139582"] ¿Cuál es tu régimen? ¿Estás tomando estradiol por vía oral? ¿Eres un hombre cis? ¿Creciste tetas? ¿Tu polla sigue trabajando con el esperma que sale? Lo pregunto porque estoy pensando en la TRH para mi calvicie de patrón masculino. [/ QUOTE]
[QUOTE = "Father_of_Shiseido, post:
1749048, miembro: 139582 "] ¿Cuál es tu régimen? ¿Estás tomando estradiol por vía oral? ¿Eres un hombre cis? ¿Creciste senos? ¿Tu polla sigue trabajando con el esperma que sale? Pregunto porque estoy pensando en la TRH para mi hombre patrón de calvicie. [/ CITA]
Han crecido tetadas pero son chicas, llevo 5 meses, el gallo no se encogió pero funciona mal, soy un hombre
[QUOTE = "Father_of_Shiseido, post: 1749048, member: 139582"] ¿Cuál es tu régimen? ¿Estás tomando estradiol por vía oral? ¿Eres un hombre cis? ¿Creciste tetas? ¿Tu polla sigue trabajando con el esperma que sale? Lo pregunto porque estoy pensando en la TRH para mi calvicie de patrón masculino. [/ QUOTE]
[QUOTE = "Father_of_Shiseido, post:
1749048, miembro: 139582 "] ¿Cuál es tu régimen? ¿Estás tomando estradiol por vía oral? ¿Eres un hombre cis? ¿Creciste senos? ¿Tu polla sigue trabajando con el esperma que sale? Pregunto porque estoy pensando en la TRH para mi hombre patrón de calvicie. [/ CITA]
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Your hairline isn't even a full inch away from your eyebrows wtf lmao
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Thanks for the reply. teri Beti ka chodo...
If even Finasterid (Or dusta)/minoxidil+ microneedling+ket isn´t working for you and you obvoiusly have a massive mental problem with your hairloss (So shaving seems to be no option), then why arent you going to get a hairsystem? These things are nowadays very good.
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Ok guys its 2019 and, here I am again looking for help, this time with pictures and some questions.
Im aiming to go back to fcking NW0 maybe NW1 and i will do it in 2019 no matter what. If i will do this, and will try to keep this with more standard regimen - I dont want be on estrogel, spironolactone, cpa or any other "extreme" drug forever
My history is on a page 103 but tl;dr
Im 20 years old, balding since i was 18. My regimen:
- finasteride 4 Moths, ed
- minoxidil 2,5 month, ed every evening
- Nizoral 1 month, 2 times a week
- Dermapen few days, 0,5 mm everyday, going to jump on 1,5mm soon 1 time a week
I believe this regimen kinda works for me, but i dont have photos to be sure. There are two options, my forehead is moving up, or my temples filled a little bit
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And i know that sounds ridiculous that i want to add some more extreme drugs, when i didnt even take finasteride half of the year, but shieeet I do not believe on actual regimen I will see the results I expect. I want to use my youth and go back to the moment, when i wasnt balding.
I believe, that balding affected me and my life very much. And it will ruin my life if i will not fight with this. So im going to win this fight and war.
To be sure - I'm straight and if possible, I'd rather not catrate myself with this drugs.
Here are photos of my hairline - https://imgur.com/a/mwu2t4Y
I believe, that temples look much worse in reality, and the rest of hair looks better.
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I will add dutasteride to my regimen right after i will see my doctor, but beside it i consider to add:
- 1mg estrogel ed
- spironolactone
- oral minoxidil
- flutamide
Not sure, what is best choice for me (I remember that @bridgeburn wrote regimen for me, but i believe that with photos it will be better and easier)
To be sure, im not going to blame anyone if i will f*** up my life with this drugs. It will be my choice and i will blame myself (If smth will happen)
So I will be grateful for any advice
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Some questions
- Why its much harder to reverse infertility coused by Estradiol?
- Even if i will use 1mg of Estrogel can it couse any pernament changes in my body? Can it couse that i will have to use it forever?
- If you will stop using minoxidil foam you will loose your gains. Does it works the same with oral minoxidil? Will i have to use it forever and if i will stop i will loose gains? Is there any chance to keep it, when i quit?
- Someone have told me that spironolactone have best risk/results ratio, do you agree?
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You all guys (Especially @bridgeburn) gave me hope and i wanna say thank you
And wish you all the best in 2019 i hope it will be good year for you and your hair All the best
Im aiming to go back to fcking NW0 maybe NW1 and i will do it in 2019 no matter what. If i will do this, and will try to keep this with more standard regimen - I dont want be on estrogel, spironolactone, cpa or any other "extreme" drug forever
My history is on a page 103 but tl;dr
Im 20 years old, balding since i was 18. My regimen:
- finasteride 4 Moths, ed
- minoxidil 2,5 month, ed every evening
- Nizoral 1 month, 2 times a week
- Dermapen few days, 0,5 mm everyday, going to jump on 1,5mm soon 1 time a week
I believe this regimen kinda works for me, but i dont have photos to be sure. There are two options, my forehead is moving up, or my temples filled a little bit
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And i know that sounds ridiculous that i want to add some more extreme drugs, when i didnt even take finasteride half of the year, but shieeet I do not believe on actual regimen I will see the results I expect. I want to use my youth and go back to the moment, when i wasnt balding.
I believe, that balding affected me and my life very much. And it will ruin my life if i will not fight with this. So im going to win this fight and war.
To be sure - I'm straight and if possible, I'd rather not catrate myself with this drugs.
Here are photos of my hairline - https://imgur.com/a/mwu2t4Y
I believe, that temples look much worse in reality, and the rest of hair looks better.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I will add dutasteride to my regimen right after i will see my doctor, but beside it i consider to add:
- 1mg estrogel ed
- spironolactone
- oral minoxidil
- flutamide
Not sure, what is best choice for me (I remember that @bridgeburn wrote regimen for me, but i believe that with photos it will be better and easier)
To be sure, im not going to blame anyone if i will f*** up my life with this drugs. It will be my choice and i will blame myself (If smth will happen)
So I will be grateful for any advice
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Some questions
- Why its much harder to reverse infertility coused by Estradiol?
- Even if i will use 1mg of Estrogel can it couse any pernament changes in my body? Can it couse that i will have to use it forever?
- If you will stop using minoxidil foam you will loose your gains. Does it works the same with oral minoxidil? Will i have to use it forever and if i will stop i will loose gains? Is there any chance to keep it, when i quit?
- Someone have told me that spironolactone have best risk/results ratio, do you agree?
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You all guys (Especially @bridgeburn) gave me hope and i wanna say thank you
And wish you all the best in 2019 i hope it will be good year for you and your hair All the best
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I just got my spironolactone from in-house pharmacy. Took 25mg just now. Going to take 25mg for two weeks to introduce it to my body and see how it feels. Then 50mg for a week and then 100mg the next week. Going to gauge this by the itch in my most sensitive areas rather than looking for new regrowth. Pretty sure spironolactone takes a while to show results in hairloss.
Hopefully I don’t start shedding my *** off. If I do, im quitting it and shaving my head lol. I’ve been at this sh*t for 7 years now.. it’s getting old -_-
Hopefully I don’t start shedding my *** off. If I do, im quitting it and shaving my head lol. I’ve been at this sh*t for 7 years now.. it’s getting old -_-
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WOW Great results Guide..
i have new results too...
https://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/mv/msg/26291/425620/#msg_425620
i have new results too...
https://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/mv/msg/26291/425620/#msg_425620
[QUOTE = "likemike, post: 1750623, member: 105078"] WOW Great results Guide ...
También tengo nuevos resultados ...
https://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/mv/msg/26291/425620/#msg_425620 [/ QUOTE]
Wow you are norwood 0 de nuevo, resultado sorprendente.
También tengo nuevos resultados ...
https://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/mv/msg/26291/425620/#msg_425620 [/ QUOTE]
Wow you are norwood 0 de nuevo, resultado sorprendente.
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So I just finished a week of raloxifene and it was doing a great job of reducing gyno in such a short time but just like last time after a week I started shedding heavily and I just cant stand that sh*t. My hair is still too thin to sustain a long period of shedding while still looking good. I think I'm gonna run another 3 months of Cypro and Estrogel and then run a 2 month long cycle of ralox. My hair just reached a new level of thickness and I cant bear to go back to where I was. I've come to the conclusion that I will be much happier with a full head of hair and man boobs then no hair and no gyno. So worst case senario is the ralox cant turn back the gyno enough and I will have to start saving money for gyno surgery. I am now willing to accept that possibility.
An interesting thing i've noticed since I started this regimen is women have been smiling at me way more than before and they just seem happier to see me. Now granted part of that is because I've been in better moods lately because of my hair doing much better but I'm noticing it from girls I just pass by on the street as well. A woman the other day just told me she reallly likes the way my hair is now and told me not to change it. Thats literally the first compliment Ive had on my hair in about 4 years. At the rate my hair is going I wont have to use any toppik at all in a month. I'm pretty stoked.
An interesting thing i've noticed since I started this regimen is women have been smiling at me way more than before and they just seem happier to see me. Now granted part of that is because I've been in better moods lately because of my hair doing much better but I'm noticing it from girls I just pass by on the street as well. A woman the other day just told me she reallly likes the way my hair is now and told me not to change it. Thats literally the first compliment Ive had on my hair in about 4 years. At the rate my hair is going I wont have to use any toppik at all in a month. I'm pretty stoked.
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Damn, thats great to hear! Congrats brother ^^ Do you have any photos before and after, or you dont want to share it?
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Sorry no photos. I guess I just didn't care enough to take the time and Its too late for a before photo now.
good luck!
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Hello Sorry for my bad english. I sometimes use a translator. Wanted to share my treatment experience. I used Avodart 1 capsule per day for 6 months. Then he connected 2 mg of estradiol. No changes. Then he reduced estradiol to 1 mg. And increased avodart to 2 mg per day. These are 4 capsules. And immediately stopped hair fall out. While there is no new hair, but for me it is already happiness. Saw many who took Avodart 2.5 mg per day but new hair was not much, but baldness stopped. For new hair, you probably need to add estradiol. Few people tried to increase the dose of avodart. I conclude that Avodart 0.5 mg per day cannot cover the message dht. With increasing doses, the situation improves.
And this is without the use of CPA. The opinion that testosterone harms the hair is erroneous. Testosterone does not harm the hair. Only dht. The fact is that the CPA is much stronger blocks dht and only this is the reason for success. And to block testosterone makes no sense. This can be verified by increasing the dose of dutasteride. Dgt is very strong and is the hardest to block. There are people with a genetic defect alpha reductase and with a lot of testosterone, but hair does not fall out. I think that testosterone like estradiol has a good effect on hair. Maybe I'm wrong, I do not know. There is something else about this later.
And this is without the use of CPA. The opinion that testosterone harms the hair is erroneous. Testosterone does not harm the hair. Only dht. The fact is that the CPA is much stronger blocks dht and only this is the reason for success. And to block testosterone makes no sense. This can be verified by increasing the dose of dutasteride. Dgt is very strong and is the hardest to block. There are people with a genetic defect alpha reductase and with a lot of testosterone, but hair does not fall out. I think that testosterone like estradiol has a good effect on hair. Maybe I'm wrong, I do not know. There is something else about this later.
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I think your right about only needing to stop dht not testosterone. The problem is finasteride and dutasteride give me a lot of bad side effects that I cant live with, brain fog, headaches, fatigue and depression. and for some people those drugs will never reduce enough dht for them. And besides just taking estrogen by itself reduces testosterone. For estrogen to be effective for regrowing hair it must be at a level high enough that will reduce testosterone.
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I had fog in my head and depression when I took one capsule per day. after taking 4 a day, it went away after 3 days. It seems to me that depression and headache are associated with the fact that the DGT is not completely blocked, and there are roller coasters. according to my feelings, a capsule covers no more than 7 hours, then the effect drops. This is said by many who have long taken dutasterid. But when you start taking 4-5 capsules per day, other problems appear. Avodart is an acid and it hurts the stomach of the liver to bones and teeth. It is necessary to use calcium. Many advise to drink avodart with 40 grams of gelatin to neutralize the harm of avodart. Gelatin for hair is good. I know that from large doses of avodart a lot of harm.
But this is the only way to see the effect. CPA blocks both testosterone and dihydrotestosterone. Why block testosterone if it does not harm the hair. When blocking testosterone need to take estradiol. But why do we need boobs .. CPA without hormones can not be taken. And as far as is known, CPA is much more harmful for the liver than avodart. The only advantage of the CPA is that it blocks DHT much more strongly. But Cypro still blocks testosterone, which does no harm to your hair.
But this is the only way to see the effect. CPA blocks both testosterone and dihydrotestosterone. Why block testosterone if it does not harm the hair. When blocking testosterone need to take estradiol. But why do we need boobs .. CPA without hormones can not be taken. And as far as is known, CPA is much more harmful for the liver than avodart. The only advantage of the CPA is that it blocks DHT much more strongly. But Cypro still blocks testosterone, which does no harm to your hair.
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And there is information that a lot of carbohydrates, sugar and bread cause insulin resistance. Insulin resistance greatly increases DHT. If someone consumes a lot of carbohydrates, you will struggle with hair loss. This is not a joke, who wants to can check it out. One diet is of course not enough, but if all this is done in a complex then it is good. I try to follow Dr. Atkins diet. I almost do not eat carbohydrates and it helps me too. If you are really bad with progress, try to reduce carbohydrates.
hair needs proteins.
hair needs proteins.