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Se qualcuno ha paura di perdere muscoli durante la terapia ormonale sostitutiva leggera o ha paura di ingrassare. Non accadrà, Almas è solo costretto a letto e non ha mai sollevato alcun peso in vita sua. Se vai in palestra non noterai alcun calo con basse dosi di e2 e/o bica. Non mi sto nemmeno allenando e sto ancora bene. Sono appena ingrassato perché mi aspettavo un intervento chirurgico alla mascella a marzo e solo con la dieta liquida avrei dovuto perdere il 10% del mio peso. Anche il gyno è ancora lì, da qui i capezzoli gonfi. Almeno non sembra crescere più... (Chirurgo ritardato) I capelli sono spessi nw0.View attachment 178446
sorry friend can i ask if you are using oestrogel? if so, in what dosage and in which area do you apply it? thank you
 
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So there is no such thing as removing the gland and never have gyno or puffy nipples again??Do you feel any pain like before the surgery??
 

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Estrogel 1.5-2mg belly,inner arms and thighs. If you are in this low range you will not have hpa axis shutdown in my experience.
but your recovery seems to me to have understood that it happened without E2 right? you see I have tried many .. at the beginning I was on spironolactone which kept me the situation .. then I switched to cyproterone, this for a year .. but taken from the enthusiasm I added 2mg of oral E2. never made worse choice for me .. i was having results but then all of a sudden my penis disappeared ... panicked i stopped E2 but it caused me the worst hair loss i ever had. now taken a little from your results are on bica 100mg, minoxidil 12mg, dutasteride 1mg. I don't think it can help me that much but still I hope so. E2 scares me I'm a man and I felt what it's like to have a dead penis..even when I was having great hair thanks to androcur and E2.
 

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Yeah i dont recommend e2 at all. Bica is sufficient. Im just using it in small doses because of hair greed. And yes I had most results on bica mono. It stagnated so I added e2 for faster results.
I know that feeling ... it is greed that led me to meltdown .. greed would give E2 another chance at least in the form of a gel .. but my head tells me to stay away from it .. anyway, I managed to get me to prescribe 17b estradiol by my doctor, but I made him put a% of 0.0001g per 100ml. and therefore 2 micrograms per application .. I don't know how much it can help but who knows.
 

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my plan now is this dutasteride 1mg, minoxidil 12mg, bica 150mg for the first 3 weeks then I go down to 100mg. topical bica and lotion with dutasteride 0.1g and estradiol 17b in micrograms. I hope to win.
 

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Yeah i dont recommend e2 at all. Bica is sufficient. Im just using it in small doses because of hair greed. And yes I had most results on bica mono. It stagnated a little so I added e2 for faster results.
do you get unwanted body/facial hair from 5 mg oral min? is it a key element of youre regimen?
 

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If someone is scared to lose muscle while on light HRT or scared of getting fatter. Its not gonna happen, almas is just bed ridden and never lifted any weight in his life. If you go to the gym you will not notice any decline on low e2 doses and/or bica. Im not even working out and still look okay. I just got fatter because i was expecting jaw surgery in march and with liquid diet only i was expected to lose 10% of my weight. Also gyno is still there,hence the puffy nips. Atleast it doesnt seem to grow anymore… (Retarded surgeon) Hair is thick nw0. Im on T blockers last 9months.View attachment 178446
Can not agree with you... I shed muscles and gain fat a lot with 3 months 12.5mg CPA + 1mg E2, then over 1 month 100mg Bicalutamide mono...

So that’s what over 4 months AA/E2 can do to your body composition...

Last half year was VERY stressful for me too. Im not going to the gym anymore so I think it had a lot of impact too...
 
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Can not agree with you... I shed muscles and gain fat a lot with 3 months 12.5mg CPA + 1mg E2, then over 1 month 100mg Bicalutamide mono...

So that’s what over 4 months AA/E2 can do to your body composition...

Last half year was VERY stressful for me too. Im not going to the gym anymore so I think it had a lot of impact too...
Bro i have the exact same problem like you i had 8% body fat and arround 68kg.Then i started avodart back in 2020 and i lost strength and muscle also brain fog everyday i went 64 kg but i was still 8% body fat visible ab definition! But in december i started bicalutamide and after arround 3 months i gainned body fat and major water retention probably from 20 mg oral minoxidil but still Bicalutamide fked my metabolism i am currently 66 kg 2 kg fat gain but completely different composition i hate it man but hair is more important! I also have puffy nipples and a little gyno on both sides disgusting!!Bicalutamide doent't give me headaches but i need a lot of sleep and i get tired very very fast! I will add androcur tablets to my topical minoxidil about 300mg worth of pills and see what happens> i am also beeing taking Abilify and anafranil and i don't have depression or other mood issues but i have no motivation to do anything bro i feel like an elderly old man 75 years old.I force myself to train with body weight and i am doing cardio but still body composition does not change no matter how much i exercise or how clean and low calorie i am eating even low fat and eating starchy carbohydrates 3 times a week doesn't work.Before Bicalutamide i i did low fat and restrict starchy carbohydrates once a day 3 times a week i would drop even more fat in a matter of 1 2 weeks now i look like sh**t.Been on bica for 5 months
 
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Bro i have the exact same problem like you i had 8% body fat and arround 68kg.Then i started avodart back in 2020 and i lost strength and muscle also brain fog everyday i went 64 kg but i was still 8% body fat visible ab definition! But in december i started bicalutamide and after arround 3 months i gainned body fat and major water retention probably from 20 mg oral minoxidil but still Bicalutamide fked my metabolism i am currently 66 kg 2 kg fat gain but completely different composition i hate it man but hair is more important! I also have puffy nipples and a little gyno on both sides disgusting!!Bicalutamide doent't give me headaches but i need a lot of sleep and i get tired very very fast! I will add androcur tablets to my topical minoxidil about 300mg worth of pills and see what happens> i am also beeing taking Abilify and anafranil and i don't have depression or other mood issues but i have no motivation to do anything bro i feel like an elderly old man 75 years old.I force myself to train with body weight and i am doing cardio but still body composition does not change no matter how much i exercise or how clean and low calorie i am eating even low fat and eating starchy carbohydrates 3 times a week doesn't work.Before Bicalutamide i i did low fat and restrict starchy carbohydrates once a day 3 times a week i would drop even more fat in a matter of 1 2 weeks now i look like sh**t.Been on bica for 5 months
Yea, my weight is almost same, but my body fat went from about 10% (veins on abs) to about 20% and my lean muscle mass decreased. We are taking anti-androgens... so what do we expect? :/

Do you still loose ground on Bicalutamide? I mean hair loss
 
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Yea, my weight is almost same, but my body fat went from about 10% (veins on abs) to about 20% and my lean muscle mass decreased. We are taking anti-androgens... so what do we expect? :/

Do you still loose ground on Bicalutamide? I mean hair loss
No hairloss man!Horrible side effects bro... cruel. FML
 

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Atleast you are not loosing your hair anymore.. I feel like im still thinning despite taking this shitty drugs
That is horrendous man.. does oral minoxidil work for you??
 

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That is horrendous man.. does oral minoxidil work for you??
Nothing works on me, CPA, E2, Dutasteride, Finasteride, Oral minoxidil, Topical minoxidil, RU. Now im trying Bicalutamide but Im pretty sure it wont work.

Now when Im taking AA im thinning everywhere... armpits, pubic hairs, facial hairs thinned by about 60%, head hairs
 
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I'm almost 3 weeks on 150mg bicalitamide. the nipples are swelling despite having been operated on for gynecomastia a year ago. almost absent sperm. but excellent sexual function. I don't give a damn about these side effects just to get results on the hair. the only one that terrifies me and I have already experienced is the decrease in the size of the penis, but without estradiol it will not happen.
 

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I'm almost 3 weeks on 150mg bicalitamide. the nipples are swelling despite having been operated on for gynecomastia a year ago. almost absent sperm. but excellent sexual function. I don't give a damn about these side effects just to get results on the hair. the only one that terrifies me and I have already experienced is the decrease in the size of the penis, but without estradiol it will not happen.
inform us if despite the gyno surgery tits getting bigger!! I don't get it why this is happening :( seems like some degree of gyno is inevitable even if you have glands removed!
 

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it happens because the entire gland has not been removed ... albeit to a lesser extent but it happens, you can be sure. it depends on the drug as regards .. after the operation I tried both spironolactone 200mg and cyproterone 25mg both in mono therapy and neither of them caused me gynecomastia. bicalutamide on mono therapy causes me gynecomastia
 
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