Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Moz5x

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As I said im not leaving my house for 3 months. I just hate myself because of baldness. I dont look in the mirror. I want to vomit when I look at myself
For what it’s worth, with that buzzed hair, the average person on the street would never think of you as bald/balding. You have a good hairline. I would love to be able to pull off that short of a haircut.

Even with your short styled hair I doubt anyone would think twice about it. You have more than enough to add hair fibers to enhance the density. Your situation is not as dire as you think it is.
 

Mr. Slap Head

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For what it’s worth, with that buzzed hair, the average person on the street would never think of you as bald/balding. You have a good hairline. I would love to be able to pull off that short of a haircut.

Even with your short styled hair I doubt anyone would think twice about it. You have more than enough to add hair fibers to enhance the density. Your situation is not as dire as you think it is.
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dar3k

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For what it’s worth, with that buzzed hair, the average person on the street would never think of you as bald/balding. You have a good hairline. I would love to be able to pull off that short of a haircut.

Even with your short styled hair I doubt anyone would think twice about it. You have more than enough to add hair fibers to enhance the density. Your situation is not as dire as you think it is.
Fact is im just really f*****g tired of my hairloss. I dont want to use hair fibers, colouring masks etc. anymore. I dont even want to look and style my hair anymore. Its f*****g depressing when you style it and see like 20 hairs on hand when using pomade, gel and other sh*t. I dont want to have another hair transplant. Im still trying with f*****g drugs, Bicalutamide, CPA, E2, Dutasteride, Finasteride, RU, minoxidil oral topical, Alpicort E, Melatonin, MSM, microneeding and everything fail. Only thing I have is f*****g puffy nipples, little sperm production, facial/body hair thinning. I tried literally everything and im just f*****g tired of that all. I spend a lot of f*****g money and nerves for hair transplant, drugs and other sh*t and anyway I will be bald and forced to do f*****g SMP to cover my FUE scars as im loosing my hairs from sides and back too. Also taking this f*****g tranny pills is depressing.

Before taking this shitty tranny drugs I had a shredded body with six pack. Now I look like f*****g skinny fat. I dropped gym and I look like sh*t.

It's like fighting a battle that can’t be won!

Its so depressing and im just f*****g tired. I dont leave my house for 3 months I have no appetite and I eat almost nothing. Its f*****g over. Hair loss completly destroyed my life. Because of hair loss im turning into a f*****g ugly monster. I don't talk and meet with my friends with my parents with my brother. I stopped even washing myself. Now I only smoke a lot of cigarettes and weed. f*** my life.
 
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GRme11

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Fact is im just really f*****g tired of my hairloss. I dont want to use hair fibers, colouring masks etc. anymore. I dont even want to look and style my hair anymore. Its f*****g depressing when you style it and see like 20 hairs on hand when using pomade, gel and other sh*t. I dont want to have another hair transplant. Im still trying with f*****g drugs, Bicalutamide, CPA, E2, Dutasteride, Finasteride, RU, minoxidil oral topical, Alpicort E, Melatonin, MSM, microneeding and everything fail. Only thing I have is f*****g puffy nipples, little sperm production, facial/body hair thinning. I tried literally everything and im just f*****g tired of that all. I spend a lot of f*****g money and nerves for hair transplant, drugs and other sh*t and anyway I will be bald and forced to do f*****g SMP to cover my FUE scars as im loosing my hairs from sides and back too. Also taking this f*****g tranny pills is depressing.

Before taking this shitty tranny drugs I had a shredded body with six pack. Now I look like f*****g skinny fat. I dropped gym and I look like sh*t.

It's like fighting a battle that can’t be won!

Its so depressing and im just f*****g tired. I dont leave my house for 3 months I have no appetite and I eat almost nothing. Its f*****g over. Hair loss completly destroyed my life. Because of hair loss im turning into a f*****g ugly monster. I don't talk and meet with my friends with my parents with my brother. I stopped even washing myself. Now I only smoke a lot of cigarettes and weed. f*** my life.
It sucks so much. I understand. Imagine taking all this and not seeing the desired results! Crazy. I even can't handle on my own where I am taking more basic things, but trying to add and pray that something will work again because I am losing ground steadily. Could you imagine if I was taking all these? How to handle it? It sucks! I have over one year to leave my house. Maybe I will just visit a relative of mine which it's just a few steps from my house (forced). Even when I was going out, I was just shopping for some basic food and going to my university before I dropped out. Then back home again, inside my room. The mental health part of hair loss it's something that someone should never been skipped and go easy on it, especially if someone it's just f*****g balding from teenage years. It sucks your soul and your mind. You are constantly living with fear, depression, and uncertainty. I can understand. I feel like only us here we can understand each other. I just want to say that we are facing similar situations, and it's hard. I can't give you advice, but I will tell you that just keep fighting. I keep fighting just to take a PART of my mental health back because I feel I will never be cured of my mental health. The damage has already been done by this curse. I am fighting because the results made me feel like I resurrected and came back to earth like a whole new person. I just can't stand it to go back to zero! It feels like death! I am fighting and sacrificing things, and I will just keep going. Because if your mental health has deteriorated, then you are non-existent. A person without his mental/physical health is non-existent. And all these are just from 16 while I am only 21 now. Sacrificing things, sacrificing our health hoping that we can get something back in exchange. They are a lot of things just packed in a small "bag" that can explode at any time.

And for your comment about your receding hairline at 16, look how mine was at 18 below:

I hope you can imagine the mental health effects…I just can't comment on something else. I will only say that if I was trying all these and none of them worked, I really really just don't know where the desperation would lead me. It's unbearable my friend. It really it is.
 

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Almas_NW0

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Fact is im just really f*****g tired of my hairloss. I dont want to use hair fibers, colouring masks etc. anymore. I dont even want to look and style my hair anymore. Its f*****g depressing when you style it and see like 20 hairs on hand when using pomade, gel and other sh*t. I dont want to have another hair transplant. Im still trying with f*****g drugs, Bicalutamide, CPA, E2, Dutasteride, Finasteride, RU, minoxidil oral topical, Alpicort E, Melatonin, MSM, microneeding and everything fail. Only thing I have is f*****g puffy nipples, little sperm production, facial/body hair thinning. I tried literally everything and im just f*****g tired of that all. I spend a lot of f*****g money and nerves for hair transplant, drugs and other sh*t and anyway I will be bald and forced to do f*****g SMP to cover my FUE scars as im loosing my hairs from sides and back too. Also taking this f*****g tranny pills is depressing.

Before taking this shitty tranny drugs I had a shredded body with six pack. Now I look like f*****g skinny fat. I dropped gym and I look like sh*t.

It's like fighting a battle that can’t be won!

Its so depressing and im just f*****g tired. I dont leave my house for 3 months I have no appetite and I eat almost nothing. Its f*****g over. Hair loss completly destroyed my life. Because of hair loss im turning into a f*****g ugly monster. I don't talk and meet with my friends with my parents with my brother. I stopped even washing myself. Now I only smoke a lot of cigarettes and weed. f*** my life.
You just have an idiotic regime, dude. I already said it. I warned that half-measures in the form of microdosing E will not stop baldness, but will give side effects like from full HRT.
If sufficient doses of E are taken to suppress T to castration levels, baldness will be reversed. But instead of taking the right amount of E, you decided to add all sorts of crap and got what you deserved. You could use nothing but E. You could add unicorn piss to your worthless 2mg E, but that won't help you. Lack of resolve leads people to underuse E in the hope of avoiding side effects, but as a result they get side effects and continue to go bald.
Your mental state might be better if you reversed your baldness in exchange for the side effects.
At first, people say it's better to go bald than get the side effects of HRT, and when they go bald, they don't want to live. That's why I'm on HRT.
 
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Almas_NW0

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I do not recognize HRT as non-working until I am shown tests for T and E levels.
 

dar3k

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You just have an idiotic regime, dude. I already said it. I warned that half-measures in the form of microdosing E will not stop baldness, but will give side effects like from full HRT.
If sufficient doses of E are taken to suppress T to castration levels, baldness will be reversed. But instead of taking the right amount of E, you decided to add all sorts of crap and got what you deserved. You could use nothing but E. You could add unicorn piss to your worthless 2mg E, but that won't help you. Lack of resolve leads people to underuse E in the hope of avoiding side effects, but as a result they get side effects and continue to go bald.
Your mental state might be better if you reversed your baldness in exchange for the side effects.
At first, people say it's better to go bald than get the side effects of HRT, and when they go bald, they don't want to live. That's why I'm on HRT.
Its not true what you say. Look at @Bungiejumper33g regime. He has T and E in female range and he is still going bald...

I saw A LOT of posts on Reddit where MTF trans complained that they still going bald despite having T and E in female ranges.

If it works for you its great but it doesnt mean it will work for someone else
 

Almas_NW0

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Its not true what you say. Look at @Bungiejumper33g regime. He has T and E in female range and he is still going bald...

I saw A LOT of posts on Reddit where MTF trans complained that they still going bald despite having T and E in female ranges.

If it works for you its great but it doesnt mean it will work for someone else
The problem is, since you haven't been tested, I have no reason to be sure that you have female levels. You value your hair, but at the same time you didn’t bother to take a fucкing analysis.
I must be lucky that at least something works in my case. Because my baldness didn't respond to anything other than HRT. Although I must say that I expected a better result than the growth of thin, lifeless hair. Hope it gets better over the years.
 

cetm-419

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Its not true what you say. Look at @Bungiejumper33g regime. He has T and E in female range and he is still going bald...

I saw A LOT of posts on Reddit where MTF trans complained that they still going bald despite having T and E in female ranges.

If it works for you its great but it doesnt mean it will work for someone else
what almas is saying is mostly true, he's a little rough at delivering his ideas but the main point is correct. The benefit we get from estrogen is due to the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonad axis being shut down, thus lowering testosterone. Estrogen itself probably has a direct effect on hair growth (I say probably because it is yet to be researched), but I think 2mg is not enough to see a significant effect.

If you really are considering suicide, I would first go full on hrt. I started out with 2mg sublingual pills and then switched to E2 injections because the side effects were mostly the same:

- Gyno started to grow faster, but now at 4 months it's starting to slow down (and I'm getting surgery in July, if the cost of the surgery is an issue, you can come to Mexico where it's really cheap.. mine is going to cost 1500 dollars)

- my libido was gone the first months with the low hrt dose, but when I switched to injections it came back for the most part. it's not the same, for example I don't get morning erections, but I do get horny throughout the day; the size hasn't changed at all. And obviously my sperm production is down to 0.

- I've gained some fat

- I feel like I'm more sentimental.

- my skin has improved a lot.

- body odor has reduced.

- sebum production is nonexistent, I don't get oily hair or skin anymore.

- my facial hair is mostly gone.

And that's it. Other than that I'm seeing improvement in my hair quality and regrowth in my hairline.
 

Almas_NW0

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I initially told you that half measures will only make you upset and shake your mental health.
Either go va banque or suffer.
 

cetm-419

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and I totally understand you.. I started thinning when I was 17. By the time I was 19 I was considering suicide as I saw no scenario where I wasn't depressed all my life. I didn't leave my house, I dropped out of music school, I was sure my life was over. Now I'm 21 and I'm sacrificing so much just to have one more chance at life.
 

cetm-419

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this disease sucks the life out of you... I lost my gf I loved because I looked like I was 40...
 

losingbattle88

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As I said im not leaving my house for 3 months. I just hate myself because of baldness. I dont look in the mirror. I want to vomit when I look at myself

66 days on Bica 25-50mg and 1.5-2mg E2 with dutasteride 0.5mg and om 5mg.
-Gyno grew a little nothing special, but will need further removal when it grows to full capacity.
- Libido and sexual function perfect suprisingly, on cypro and e2 was destroyed ( I didnt jerk off for 1month at one point, my dick was dead) and testicles are normal size compared to those raisins on cypro.
- body fat is redistributing a little mostly noticable on my biceps and triceps area as general bf% increase.
- muscle and strenght loss is negligable, if any. I cant workout and im on liquid only diet because of jaw surgery for atleast 2 months so I am bound to lose muscles anyway.
- feminization is way slower than on cypro and e2 and not only “managable” but unnoticable to me.

All in all i just a met a great girl and its not interfering with my dating life whatsover for now.

Do I recommend e2 use now,not really, dutasteride,oral min,bica would be enough for non perfectionist would even consider this sideless stack if you dont count in gyno. I just had 6months worth of e2 gel laying around so I was tempted to try it again.
And I’ve shown that I had pretty aggressive loss i would be shaving my head by now if i didnt begin treatment 1.5 years ago.

My only problem is loss of semen I dont know what im gonna say to that girl (as its not one time stand,who care about those) when its time to c*m on her or something JFL.

And for mental suffering aspect some of you experience I still recommend SSRI to make things more bearable, when I was shut in my house for 3-4 months I started taking zoloft 50mg and after 2-3 weeks I started going out daily again just to seek any social interaction. Really rewires your brain quickly, atleast it did for me.

Very short hair in broad daylight today:
View attachment 180070(Mild diffuse thats only seen in harsh lighting that is filling in for months now,I hope this is easy task for e2 to fill in a little)
Compared to 7y ago:
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I cant tell if im in shedding phase or not because i keep it very short but I feel i gained some thickness even tho im only 2months in.
Ye the sperm sh*t is rly bad. Especially when u get a new girlfriend its f*****g embarrasing that u cant squirt at all on her just oozing out slowly and dripping like a beta boy. U dont feel like a man anymore I sure dont. Im taking it easy with anti androgens now cause retrograde ejaculation aint cool as a Young man. And you may never recover fully after you quit. In studies men who quit dutasteride after a year or so had permanent lower fertility rate, they recovered only 20% of sperm.
 
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