Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Itsnoahkennedy

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Oral minoxidil would work if androgens aren't in the way, of course. However, you didn't have sufficient estrogen to cause regrowth; cyproterone acetate lowers your E, which explains why it has such an insignificant rate of gynecomastia. I definitely want to try oral minoxidil, since I want to have thick hair like Bridges!

What side effects did you experience on oral minoxidil?

I just don't like the idea of my hair only being able to grow with minoxidil, because if we are taking these hormones thinking it's working, and then quit minoxidil thinking our hair is growing naturally, then losing all our hair only to find out it was minoxidil all along and get disappointed lol.
besides, minoxidil gives me blurred vision and heart pains, so i hope i can stop it during HRT.
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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Shouldn't minoxidil grown hair (on a healthy person/ person with no androgens to cause hair loss) stay on a persons head once they quit minoxidil (as it does on cancer patients with no pattern baldness) so hair revived by HRT and boosted with minoxidil should stay after minoxidil is removed from the picture right ? since its just a hair stimulant? or would it still fall out once minoxidil is no longer present? it's hard to make sense of it.
 

Ikarus

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Shouldn't minoxidil grown hair (on a healthy person/ person with no androgens to cause hair loss) stay on a persons head once they quit minoxidil (as it does on cancer patients with no pattern baldness) so hair revived by HRT and boosted with minoxidil should stay after minoxidil is removed from the picture right ? since its just a hair stimulant? or would it still fall out once minoxidil is no longer present? it's hard to make sense of it.

I'm wondering this too... Since minoxidil is technically a stimulant and increases blood flow to the follicles, wouldn't the hairs remain if the follicles are no longer being abused by androgens? I can't find any reports on this whatsoever...
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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I'm wondering this too... Since minoxidil is technically a stimulant and increases blood flow to the follicles, wouldn't the hairs remain if the follicles are no longer being abused by androgens? I can't find any reports on this whatsoever...
I can't find any data on this either, I've looked for days trying to find the answer, i guess i could take one for the team and do a study on myself. After i reach NW0 i can stop minoxidil to see what happens (but i have been using topical minoxidil for a year continuously with little to no improvement while on Propecia, just some peach fuzz and thin hairs that don't grow past an inch, and i know for sure that Propecia has no effect on my hair whatsoever because i took it alone for 2 years previously and still lost 40% density) so i don't really know if minoxidil will have a big enough role in regrowth during HRT in order to collect any sufficient data on said self minoxidil study.

At the same time i have no idea how much of my current hair is being artificially kept alive by the minoxidil. ive been losing hair rapidly for 4 years, on/off treatments i was 20 last time i was off treatment and i think i was a norwood 3 with vertex thinning, i don't think there is much visual difference between then and present time, now i am 22 so maybe i am skin bald underneath all this fake minoxidil hair. i am a bit nervous to find out,
 
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Ziggyz123

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Well for example, I used topical minoxidil for two years, also was using finasteride for one of those years.. I ended up have a massive burst of scalp inflammation and I quit minoxidil thinking that caused it. It took a year and a few months and I shed all the hair I was regrowing and my cycles were so messed up I was shedding short hairs when my hair was long. If you quit minoxidil, you lose the gains plain and simple
 

Ikarus

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Well for example, I used topical minoxidil for two years, also was using finasteride for one of those years.. I ended up have a massive burst of scalp inflammation and I quit minoxidil thinking that caused it. It took a year and a few months and I shed all the hair I was regrowing and my cycles were so messed up I was shedding short hairs when my hair was long. If you quit minoxidil, you lose the gains plain and simple

Finasteride isn't strong enough to prevent follicles from miniaturising. It's an entirely different situation if your body is now emulating the hormones of a woman (higher amounts of E and castration levels of T), where androgens can't have an effect on you.
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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Well for example, I used topical minoxidil for two years, also was using finasteride for one of those years.. I ended up have a massive burst of scalp inflammation and I quit minoxidil thinking that caused it. It took a year and a few months and I shed all the hair I was regrowing and my cycles were so messed up I was shedding short hairs when my hair was long. If you quit minoxidil, you lose the gains plain and simple

The point was, minoxidil is supposed to be a hair stimulant, so whilst regrowing our hair naturally with female hormones, we should be able to stop minoxidil without losing our hair, because our hair would be real hair from HRT MTF, and not fake artificially grown minoxidil hair, thus rendering continued use of minoxidil useless in regards to real regrowth.
 

BetaBoy

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The point was, minoxidil is supposed to be a hair stimulant, so whilst regrowing our hair naturally with female hormones, we should be able to stop minoxidil without losing our hair, because our hair would be real hair from HRT MTF, and not fake artificially grown minoxidil hair, thus rendering continued use of minoxidil useless in regards to real regrowth.

Yeah that won’t work, also there is nothing natural about supressing the action of androgens and exogenously supplementing Oestrogen.
 

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I have a question: would you say bicalutamide is similar in effectiveness to flutamide? I can find several studies based around flutamide being used for female pattern hair loss but there isn't much information on bicalutamide being effective for female pattern hair loss...
 

mryellowman

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This is my hair when i first started minoxidil without any other treatments ;
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This is after 6 months of minoxidil ;

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This is after i started dutasteride with minoxidil ;

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And this is after 6 months i dropped minoxidil ;

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i hope this will be enlightening for minoxidil users.
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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This is my hair when i first started minoxidil without any other treatments ;
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This is after 6 months of minoxidil ;

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This is after i started dutasteride with minoxidil ;

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And this is after 6 months i dropped minoxidil ;

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i hope this will be enlightening for minoxidil users.


Are you currently still off of minoxidil? this is related to what i was talking about referring to my posts about not needing minoxidil anymore after being on an effective treatment for a while (HRT for me).
 
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