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Ikarus

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lol, i hate the word, the drug, the heart pain it gives me and putting it on my head every day, the texture is disgusting. sorry if i'm annoying you talking about minoxidil though if that's what you mean.

I like discussing about minoxidil, however I just hate the word so much! It just reminds me of all of those doctors who act as if minoxidil is the only treatment for hair loss...
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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I like discussing about minoxidil, however I just hate the word so much! It just reminds me of all of those doctors who act as if minoxidil is the only treatment for hair loss...
oh my god, the amount of doctors i went to (who are supposed to help me since they are taking my money) always blabbed their mouth about trying Propecia and minoxidil and its so frustrating, after telling them these things dont work for me, they wont even consider giving me Avodart and just say no no no always no and then i said f*** it, I'm going transgender give me hormones, the Dr still said no and sent me out of the office and charged me $350 for nothing, no help, nada. so F*ck the doctors i don't need them to get my hair back now, only to test my blood. lol i wasted at least a grand trying to get a dr to help me out.
 

mryellowman

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Are you currently still off of minoxidil? this is related to what i was talking about referring to my posts about not needing minoxidil anymore after being on an effective treatment for a while (HRT for me).

Yeah and no planning to turn back on it.I want my nw0 back so if i can't get it back with drugs i might give it one more chance.Time will tell.
 

Ikarus

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oh my god, the amount of doctors i went to (who are supposed to help me since they are taking my money) always blabbed their mouth about trying Propecia and minoxidil and its so frustrating, after telling them these things dont work for me, they wont even consider giving me Avodart and just say no no no always no and then i said f*** it, I'm going transgender give me hormones, the Dr still said no and sent me out of the office and charged me $350 for nothing, no help, nada. so F*ck the doctors i don't need them to get my hair back now, only to test my blood. lol i wasted at least a grand trying to get a dr to help me out.

When I saw a 'hair specialist' she told me the only treatments which work are finasteride and minoxidil. It made me so frustrated, because she wasn't listening to me about how difficult it is having to live with testosterone in my body. I was so overwhelmed with emotions, that I just couldn't help myself from crying! But, you can't discuss options with doctors since they 'know it all'... I waited five months for that appointment, and they weren't even allowed to prescribe finasteride. And, she got my norwood diagnosis completely incorrect and put me as an NWV. My ethnicity doesn't bald in that pattern, we bald in a diffuse pattern...

However, my dermatologist is willing to listen to me. I am seeing an endocrinologist in July and I'm going to tell him/her that I am non-binary, and that knowing I have testosterone in my body is making me miserable. I have read quite a few stories on reddit about them expressing that they are non-binary/androgynous and they can prescribe bicalutamide/flutamide/cyproterone acetate. (I'm not actually non-binary, I don't know what that is in all honesty!)

We should never rely on the 'help' of doctors, since they are insanely irritating and don't do much. At this point, it explains why government funded medical care is dying out...
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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When I saw a 'hair specialist' she told me the only treatments which work are finasteride and minoxidil. It made me so frustrated, because she wasn't listening to me about how difficult it is having to live with testosterone in my body. I was so overwhelmed with emotions, that I just couldn't help myself from crying! But, you can't discuss options with doctors since they 'know it all'... I waited five months for that appointment, and they weren't even allowed to prescribe finasteride. And, she got my norwood diagnosis completely incorrect and put me as an NWV. My ethnicity doesn't bald in that pattern, we bald in a diffuse pattern...

However, my dermatologist is willing to listen to me. I am seeing an endocrinologist in July and I'm going to tell him/her that I am non-binary, and that knowing I have testosterone in my body is making me miserable. I have read quite a few stories on reddit about them expressing that they are non-binary/androgynous and they can prescribe bicalutamide/flutamide/cyproterone acetate. (I'm not actually non-binary, I don't know what that is in all honesty!)

We should never rely on the 'help' of doctors, since they are insanely irritating and don't do much. At this point, it explains why government funded medical care is dying out...
Lol, i saw a "hair specialist" one time, i was so so desperate that i allowed them to sell me a Low Level Laser Therapy device and sign a contract paying them $2800 (for a $700 bogus device that is (FDA cleared) and not approved) so yeah they scammed me lol but i was dumb for believing it in the first place.

im glad you found a dr willing to work with you, i wish i could have found one of those where i live. will any endocrinologist help you with hormones ? it would be a shame for me to try to make an appointment with one only to have them steal my money and send me home with nothing.
 

Ikarus

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Lol, i saw a "hair specialist" one time, i was so so desperate that i allowed them to sell me a Low Level Laser Therapy device and sign a contract paying them $2800 (for a $700 bogus device that is (FDA cleared) and not approved) so yeah they scammed me lol but i was dumb for believing it in the first place.

im glad you found a dr willing to work with you, i wish i could have found one of those where i live. will any endocrinologist help you with hormones ? it would be a shame for me to try to make an appointment with one only to have them steal my money and send me home with nothing.

You could actually see an endocrinologist/gender specialist and you can tell them that you are non-binary or something, and express how testosterone is making you want to crawl out of your own skin. It sounds a little dramatic, but sometimes you have to be dramatic to get what you want ;)
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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You could actually see an endocrinologist/gender specialist and you can tell them that you are non-binary or something, and express how testosterone is making you want to crawl out of your own skin. It sounds a little dramatic, but sometimes you have to be dramatic to get what you want ;)
i will say that then, because technically, testosterone does make me want to crawl out of my skin.
 

Ziggyz123

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I sort of envy all of you. I would gladly inhibit ALL of my testosterone, however, I have a beautiful girlfriend, I’m active especially surfing and the gyno just DESTROYS me. Cypro also made me gain a crazy amount of weight, fast. I’m going to stick with dutasteride, drop Cypro, start seti even just to mitigate some of pgd2 effects and I have to use minoxidil orally now. No other choice. My hair is awful and the itch on my right hairline is truly a nightmare
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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I sort of envy all of you. I would gladly inhibit ALL of my testosterone, however, I have a beautiful girlfriend, I’m active especially surfing and the gyno just DESTROYS me. Cypro also made me gain a crazy amount of weight, fast. I’m going to stick with dutasteride, drop Cypro, start seti even just to mitigate some of pgd2 effects and I have to use minoxidil orally now. No other choice. My hair is awful and the itch on my right hairline is truly a nightmare
I used to have the super hot girlfriend too, but now she's not around anymore so i can take all the hormones i want lel. all jokes aside i'm sorry to hear about the gyno problem. i hope your regime works good for you, oral minoxidil works much better than topical.
 

Yar

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This is a table of the level of estrogen in the blood, depending on age. From this table we see that the reference values of estradiol in the blood range from 18 years and older from 40 to 170 picomoles. A table with testosterone next to it. Testosterone has a reference value of 4.5-42 picomoles. These are the highest values of 40-42! Estrogens in men should prevail 4-5 times. Estradiol is the dominant hormone by reference values and not testosterone! To avoid baldness. I started taking estradiol and began to feel better, the hair on my head began to grow! Estradiol needs every man! So that cardiovascular diseases do not develop! Che there was no balding! I see a lot of bald men in Russia! They think this is genetics and it should be so.
 

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Obsessive

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I sort of envy all of you. I would gladly inhibit ALL of my testosterone, however, I have a beautiful girlfriend, I’m active especially surfing and the gyno just DESTROYS me. Cypro also made me gain a crazy amount of weight, fast. I’m going to stick with dutasteride, drop Cypro, start seti even just to mitigate some of pgd2 effects and I have to use minoxidil orally now. No other choice. My hair is awful and the itch on my right hairline is truly a nightmare
Hey Ziggy, I've been following your story a little. Didn't you use spironolactone with dutas at one point? I ask bc I am considering that combo. spironolactone is supposedly a little less harsh in the gyno dept., dose depending obviously.
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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This is a table of the level of estrogen in the blood, depending on age. From this table we see that the reference values of estradiol in the blood range from 18 years and older from 40 to 170 picomoles. A table with testosterone next to it. Testosterone has a reference value of 4.5-42 picomoles. These are the highest values of 40-42! Estrogens in men should prevail 4-5 times. Estradiol is the dominant hormone by reference values and not testosterone! To avoid baldness. I started taking estradiol and began to feel better, the hair on my head began to grow! Estradiol needs every man! So that cardiovascular diseases do not develop! Che there was no balding! I see a lot of bald men in Russia! They think this is genetics and it should be so.
Thank you for this
 

Ikarus

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Honestly, I’m interested in the whole cardiovascular department. Males within my family have a history of cardiovascular issues (e.g. blood clots, heart attacks) but I wonder why it’s just the men and none of the women... What if it’s due to androgens?!
 

Itsnoahkennedy

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Honestly, I’m interested in the whole cardiovascular department. Males within my family have a history of cardiovascular issues (e.g. blood clots, heart attacks) but I wonder why it’s just the men and none of the women... What if it’s due to androgens?!
It's been known that androgens affect the heart and cause heart problems, i have a family history of heart failure so its probably a good thing i am no longer going to be a man
 

Yar

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Honestly, I’m interested in the whole cardiovascular department. Males within my family have a history of cardiovascular issues (e.g. blood clots, heart attacks) but I wonder why it’s just the men and none of the women... What if it’s due to androgens?!
Yes, this is because of androgens. Before taking estradiol, I suffered from nasal congestion and snoring. Now this is not there!
 

itchymadscalp

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oh my god, the amount of doctors i went to (who are supposed to help me since they are taking my money) always blabbed their mouth about trying Propecia and minoxidil and its so frustrating, after telling them these things dont work for me, they wont even consider giving me Avodart and just say no no no always no and then i said f*** it, I'm going transgender give me hormones, the Dr still said no and sent me out of the office and charged me $350 for nothing, no help, nada. so F*ck the doctors i don't need them to get my hair back now, only to test my blood. lol i wasted at least a grand trying to get a dr to help me out.

350$ for nothing. Omg... how its even possible? Can you refuse to pay?
 

Ikarus

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I have a slight update... When my nipples are hard (which is so frequent nowadays) the pain in my nipples diminishes slightly! Other than that, it has been two months and two weeks since I started an anti-androgen and estradiol, and I am starting to notice small hairs sprouting which almost appear as ‘little scalp hairs’. It’s weird to explain, but prior to starting medications I could see my scalps colour in between the hairs at mirror distance. Now, my scalp is starting to become more ‘grey’ in appearance from mirror distance since these dark ‘little scalp hairs’ are appearing. In terms with my hairline, there is definitely regrowth there; it’s easier to identify those since there aren’t other hairs in the way.
 
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