Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Derelict]

Jesus, now this is a transgender forum.

Nobody is forcing you to read this thread.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Hair instead of penis ? not , thanks.

You have far more likelihood of not having a functioning c*** taking finasteride or dutasteride than you do balancing your hormones with estrogen.

Imagine living in the current year and not realizing that men actually have estrogen in their bodies and most men actually have much higher estrogen levels than they think.

 

[goku_black]

im sorry but i just don't understand how castrating yourself is a "success story" . i respect the fact that you wanted to be a transgender. however 99.9% of the people here mainly treat their hair to get woman

 

[franzliszt]

Even something as drastic as that is not a guarantee that you wil get regrowth, the guy who castrated himself and used estradiol still had to use minoxidil to fill in his crown from what i remember.

In my case, the amount of bucalutamide I need for hair regrowth/feminisation causes liver pain, and spironolactone/cypro gave me some pretty bad sides like depression and thyroid gland pain.

. Strangely enough, DHT is such a tough bastard that reductase inhibitors might still be necessary to preserve hair although this seems to depend on the ability of one's body to synthesize DHT from outside the testicles. I believe that beard removal has similar hormonal effects related to DHT. In spite of HRT, my dermatitis remained persistent, painful and "ravaging" until I had beard removal which seems to remove the face's ability to synthesize DHT.

Have you noticed a difference in skin texture after beard removal? how does beard removal prevenr DHT synthesis on the face?

 

[jxlegend]

If you're gonna take hormones, might as well take test and shave and get huge, than Estrogen.

But I suspect this is a safe space for Transitioning... which I mean is fine

 

[Derelict]

im sorry but i just don't understand how castrating yourself is a "success story" . i respect the fact that you wanted to be a transgender. however 99.9% of the people here mainly treat their hair to get woman

Bridgeburn still has sexual function as far as im aware, and i don't agree that everyone wanting to treat hair loss is doing it for women either.

 

[franzliszt]

im sorry but i just don't understand how castrating yourself is a "success story" . i respect the fact that you wanted to be a transgender. however 99.9% of the people here mainly treat their hair to get woman

This thread has inspired people, who are now happier with their appearance. It's not for everyone of course, but there's no need to judge.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

If you're gonna take hormones, might as well take test and shave and get huge, than Estrogen.

But I suspect this is a safe space for Transitioning... which I mean is fine

No, I already know what my tolerance for estrogen is and I quite literally had way more e2 10 years ago than I do now and I fucked my wife every day for months. I have no idea how the prolactin didn't kill my hair but I know all I need to do is get back to that balance and make sure other hormones aren't out of control and I'm set.

No, the cult of test and accepting baldness is just so... yeah, not for me. All men have estrogen in their bodies and being so insecure that you won't even entertain balancing your hormones is like a guy who is afraid to wank because he thinks it makes him gay.

Absolutely insane.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Supposedly hair follicles can remain dormant for a while and can begin growing again in the right conditions, so that doesn't concern me, you can always use PRP in conjunction if you wish.

I'm fairly confident that shifting my hormonal profile will be sufficient to induce enough growth and regrowth to satisfy me.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I agree that seeing the effects of those actually transitioning gives a good baseline for what estrogen can actually do esp under conditions where there is extensive hair loss.

Being so close minded that you can't even take information that could be used to help you even if you're not transitioning is beyond me.

 

[goku_black]

I agree with that but at least for me, I equate the two HRT groups, cis-males and former cis-males medically but not socially. You are only female or transitioning if you intend to be so or do so. Now, whether people like me and @bridgeburn were just using hair goals as part of a subliminal desire for feminization, it might be the case. If I seem to harp on the MtF aspect, it is because even cis-males need to look at this holistically and many of the feminization effects/side effects are actually different in terms of pervasiveness. There have been many questions in the history of the thread related to breast growth and penile/testicular diminution and to the public at large, these effects are fascinating. The public is fascinated with the "no way back" aspect and this essentially always requires castration of some form although there are surgeries which make me highly uncomfortable such as penile removal which differs entirely from normal SRS in which nothing is cut off or removed but rather transformed in terms of tissue reduction and the separation of the urethra and penis to match the three sexual/cloaca functional parts that females have while cis-males only have two, the penis/urethra and the anus.

enough with the "cis-male" term. that is cringey as f***

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Why are you even here?

Nobody is forcing you to post here.

 

[goku_black]

Why are you even here?

Nobody is forcing you to post here.

im allowed to say my opinion

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

im allowed to say my opinion

Fair, but I don't know what the mods on this forum will tolerate, so offer your opinions at your own risk.

The more value you contribute to a discussion the more you'll probably get away with opinion wise.

 

[KNemo]

True as to the first part but many people on tressless report dissatisfaction with PRP. I have asked about it with cosmetic practitioners who do botox, micro-needling, etc. and none of them were particularly effusive about it. I recommend injecting botox into the masseter muscles on either side of the face. This is reported with at least one study, to relax and shrink these chewing muscles which promotes youth and feminization (increased oval and reduced squarish aspect of the face) and also to reduce surface tension on the scalp, resulting in 18 percent regrowth, although I am not sure exactly what this signifies. Virtually all botox(dysport) treatment appears to me to work sensationally in terms of improving appearance within 4 to 7 days and it is cheap. Like virtually all of my treatments, I have no idea whether something works since I am using multiple remedies at the same time. Post hoc, ergo prompter hoc is not very scientific but that is the cost of the kitchen sink approach in which more than say, two remedies are used concomitantly.

Have you noticed any negatives with the botox treatment? Had it recommended recently for treating bruxism but I don't know...

im allowed to say my opinion

Yes but why here? Seeking some place where something you don't like is discussed to complain is just childish, you could just ignore it instead of making yourself irritated and bother others not caring about those opinions.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Like I said in another thread, if you find the idea of using estrogen to regrow hair abhorent, then go get a hair transplant and enjoy your life.

 

[franzliszt]

It would be cool if when this post reaches 1,000 pages, Bridgeburn returns with an update.

 

[Gergely]

Have you thought about trying 5/10mg of oral minoxidil?

i thought about it, but i don't want to deal with a shed and excessive amounts of body hair.

 

[jamesbooker1975]

Bridgeburn still has sexual function as far as im aware, and i don't agree that everyone wanting to treat hair loss is doing it for women either.

He is doind a chenical castrate regimen . Thinking that he is not having side effects as a male is laughable

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

i had mature hairline when i was around 21 after minoxidil and trust its not the same. its way way better. yes woman can tell your losing it but they still love you and think you look good. the difference between this and nw3 or 4 for example is huge.

Who cares about what women think?