Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[JaneyElizabeth]

Does Androcur Help Breast Development:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMtFHRT/comments/mmpipb

 

[Marky]

What 9 months hrt does to a motherfucker. Ever since switching to injections and adding duta my progress has been super fast, I now have vellus hairs all the way to NW0 (round hairline) so just waiting for them to mature Hopefully there by the end of the year. Amazing skin difference aswell


Cant attach or add image so:

https://imgur.com/Z5ungl1

How old are you? I guess bica and dutasteride work pretty good together

 

[Marky]

Might have to get on TRT or remain on HRT just to feel good. As you've mentioned before, you need a dominant sex hormone. Taking estrogen for a year (or CPA) and then trying to get off of them would likely make you depend on some exogenous form of T or E in order to maintain that dominance.

My theory is if you suppress T in a male using E or CPA, then get off, the T will shoot back with a vengeance. It's the opposite of a body builder taking T, it makes the endocrine system lazy and shuts down normal T production. Then it maybe never come back, which means TRT for the rest of your life.

Another note, in my 4 month cycle I taper down the AA's in the last month bringing the T back and my hair quality feels and looks good. My theory is T is good for a short time but not a long time. And think the surge back in T brings with it growth hormone which plays a part in boosting hair. I would post a pic of one FtM transition, but can't post a photo for some reason.

Also consider how a teenagers hair gets thicker and fuller going through puberty, when the male hormones kick in.

 

[Almas]

Also consider how a teenagers hair gets thicker and fuller going through puberty, when the male hormones kick in.

They are not sensitive to T and DHT, but they are sensitive to E, which is produced due to the conversion of T to E

Bicalutamide does a similar job: it turns off androgen receptors, but increases E.This, in a sense, brings you back to adolescence.
Bicalutamide is an ideal medicine, but the E it gives is not enough to restore the follicles. It is necessary to restore with high dosages of E, and then maintain the result with Bicalutamide. I plan on getting my hair back in my teenage time 14-15 years old, that's my goal

 

[CrushG]

I have before and after photos, I’ll inbox you when I get time. You decide if I’m getting there. Next cycle my focus will be on progesterone and bica- I have a good feeling about it

What is the theory behind this combination? From my short experience just with progesterone solo for improving sleep 10 mg/day work better that 50 mg/day. Increased dosage gives me more "agression" and it's hard to fall asleep.

 

[RStGeorge]

@JaneyElizabeth what is your take on taking DIM in conjunction with estradiol for a cis-guy?

 

[Norwoody]

They are not sensitive to T and DHT, but they are sensitive to E, which is produced due to the conversion of T to E

Bicalutamide does a similar job: it turns off androgen receptors, but increases E.This, in a sense, brings you back to adolescence.
Bicalutamide is an ideal medicine, but the E it gives is not enough to restore the follicles. It is necessary to restore with high dosages of E, and then maintain the result with Bicalutamide. I plan on getting my hair back in my teenage time 14-15 years old, that's my goal

Obviously you combine it with finasteride. What are your thoughts on dutasteride? I know that some say it is risky. But it would also increase aromatization slightly. What about bica + topical E?

 

[Almas]

What are your thoughts on dutasteride?

I don't know how it interacts with Bicalutamide, I just read some rumors. I remember that Ikarus said that the concentration of Dutasteride will increase when used with Bica
From myself, I can say that it is not worth it purely economically. Avodart is expensive, but not worth the money. Bicalutamide does most of the work, so finasteride will suffice. Better save money

topical E

I don't believe this works. People on this forum thought that E had a topical effect and began to smear the gel on the scalp, although this has not been confirmed. For me, this is some kind of nonsense.

 

[Murkey Thumb]

I'm basically at the 3 month mark with my stack of bi-estro, topical dutasteride, derma roller & hls peptides. So far it's looking likely that it's had a very negative effect on my hair, the only positives are my scalp itch has disappeared and my skin is a lot softer.
Nipples still sore and slight gyno but nothing noticeable (I have some Rolax arriving soon so hopefully it will sort that out).
Although I am enjoying looking a little younger I now have to buzz my hair to 1-2mm just to be presentable in my professional career as the shedding phase hasn't really stopped. I am going to push on to the 4 month mark but at the moment I wouldn't recommend this form of topical treatment to anybody.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I don't know how it interacts with Bicalutamide, I just read some rumors. I remember that Ikarus said that the concentration of Dutasteride will increase when used with Bica
From myself, I can say that it is not worth it purely economically. Avodart is expensive, but not worth the money. Bicalutamide does most of the work, so finasteride will suffice. Better save money


I don't believe this works. People on this forum thought that E had a topical effect and began to smear the gel on the scalp, although this has not been confirmed. For me, this is some kind of nonsense.

The increased concentration of Dutasteride in the blood is a result of halted procession in the liver of the drug due to Bicalutamide. That's what I read the last time, but will need to do research on WHY it is so.

 

[Norwoody]

The increased concentration of Dutasteride in the blood is a result of halted procession in the liver of the drug due to Bicalutamide. That's what I read the last time, but will need to do research on WHY it is so.

I wonder if this would help decrease scalp DHT even more

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

@JaneyElizabeth what is your take on taking DIM in conjunction with estradiol for a cis-guy?

Hi, RSG

I am not really familiar with it but I don't think that MtF's want to "balance" excess estrogen but guys might want to in some circumstances but I have am not aware of what testing has been done with this substance.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm basically at the 3 month mark with my stack of bi-estro, topical dutasteride, derma roller & hls peptides. So far it's looking likely that it's had a very negative effect on my hair, the only positives are my scalp itch has disappeared and my skin is a lot softer.
Nipples still sore and slight gyno but nothing noticeable (I have some Rolax arriving soon so hopefully it will sort that out).
Although I am enjoying looking a little younger I now have to buzz my hair to 1-2mm just to be presentable in my professional career as the shedding phase hasn't really stopped. I am going to push on to the 4 month mark but at the moment I wouldn't recommend this form of topical treatment to anybody.

"Zounds, that sounds bleak. Can you have testing done?

 

[Almas]

I wonder if this would help decrease scalp DHT even more

Bicalutamide in the correct dosage blocks both T and DHT completely. Don't worry about 5ap blockers: Bicalutamide is a bomb in itself

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

What 9 months hrt does to a motherfucker. Ever since switching to injections and adding duta my progress has been super fast, I now have vellus hairs all the way to NW0 (round hairline) so just waiting for them to mature Hopefully there by the end of the year. Amazing skin difference aswell


Cant attach or add image so:

https://imgur.com/Z5ungl1

It looks as though you had dermatitis or a rash in the sideburns before which has cleared up. You nose might look more feminine too but I am looking for things that might not be there. Could just be the lighting. Really happy for you.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Bicalutamide in the correct dosage blocks both T and DHT completely. Don't worry about 5ap blockers: Bicalutamide is a bomb in itself

Backdoor pathway? I think I posted something about this either here or on my thread.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Backdoor pathway? I think I posted something about this either here or on my thread.

And that's the problem... tho not everybody will face it, but if you do, you're fucked. Only Abiraterone Acetate will help here, but that's by far over ethical limits imo.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Facial changes, muscle loss and the ability to build strength and muscle mass, body changes, breasts are some of the concerns. If estrogen over time can destroy your testicles and you will never have your testosterone again. You should be aware

Yes to facial muscles. I couldn't smile before extensive HRT. My face wouldn't make that type of grimace. Anyone a Friends fan? They did an episode about Chandler not being able to smile. I used to smile just like he did in that episode.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I wonder if this would help decrease scalp DHT even more

I will cover this up soon, but clear answer; no. Details coming soon.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

My theory is if you suppress T in a male using E or CPA, then get off, the T will shoot back with a vengeance. It's the opposite of a body builder taking T, it makes the endocrine system lazy and shuts down normal T production. Then it maybe never come back, which means TRT for the rest of your life.

Another note, in my 4 month cycle I taper down the AA's in the last month bringing the T back and my hair quality feels and looks good. My theory is T is good for a short time but not a long time. And think the surge back in T brings with it growth hormone which plays a part in boosting hair. I would post a pic of one FtM transition, but can't post a photo for some reason.

Also consider how a teenagers hair gets thicker and fuller going through puberty, when the male hormones kick in.

Well, there are changes, probably around 13 years old. This is when most of us have to start washing our hair almost every day so it could be that at first, increased sebum makes hair look nicer and "thicker" in a certain sense but my feeling is more so that as soon as puberty hits, it's downhill from there on but maybe there is a point, for me around 17 years old where we could freeze things and have benefits without progressing further. But we don't know, do we?