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Just try not to send cringe fetish pictures with lollipop in your mouth here )
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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The change in physique is closer to the female type. Increase in fat mass. Also, judging by some photos, the feminization of the face can be very significant. This is clearly seen in the example of Noah, who used HRT for 8 months.
However, I do not think that all of the above is worse than being bald. None of this would make me feel suicidal or depressed, and baldness made me feel like I was already dying.
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Did you have hair improvement on HRT?
Exactly. Balding is death and hair is life.
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I rate the result as average.
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It amazes me that Derek (MPMD) has been able to hold on to his own hair. He has put his endocrine system through the ringer over the years. I believe his current regiment is simple. Minoxidil and Finasteride and occasionally micro neddling . He is also on TRT.
I believe Derek has also mentioned in the past, what is already known, that Estrogenic therapy is the nuclear option for guys. Basically sacrificing masculinity for POSSIBLE results. He is right.
I believe Derek has also mentioned in the past, what is already known, that Estrogenic therapy is the nuclear option for guys. Basically sacrificing masculinity for POSSIBLE results. He is right.
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Your generalizations of men “nowadays” is very misleading and anecdotal. I don’t know what sphere or silo that you are inhabiting, but men very much embrace their masculinity as such women embracing femininity.
Let’s get back on the topic of hair, instead of turning this into the coping incel section lol.
It would be interesting to see Tato or some others experiment with some sort of sublingual E2 in some way. Since it spikes E2 through the roof for only a few hours at a time, perhaps this could be enough to stimulate the receptors in the IF units. And perhaps having sharp bursts but lower steady state levels would prevent a lot of the sexual side effects. I think that it would, but the question is by how much? However, I would suspect that gyno would still precede hair growth. Thoughts?
It would be interesting to see Tato or some others experiment with some sort of sublingual E2 in some way. Since it spikes E2 through the roof for only a few hours at a time, perhaps this could be enough to stimulate the receptors in the IF units. And perhaps having sharp bursts but lower steady state levels would prevent a lot of the sexual side effects. I think that it would, but the question is by how much? However, I would suspect that gyno would still precede hair growth. Thoughts?
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He can enjoy all the lollipops he wants now. Dude needs help.
I just have my gyno removed, so I'm in. But what dose should be used sublingually?
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I think he blocked himself. I did this with my old account. In fact, this is good.
Сколько стоила операция?
Well according to those charts shown around the 16 minute mark in that video, 0.25mg used sublingually was enough to blast E2 levels up well over 200pg/mL, a least for a couple hours. 1mg of sublingual reached 450pg/mL. But keep in mind that this is all uncharted territory for me! I have no experience with systemic estrogen use. Be aware that the concentrations will clear the system quickly, so it may be good to also have a steady state base of oral E2. Again, this will depend on you, your goals, and the risks you are willing to take. I would just have to guess that shortening the half life via using it sublingually could potentially reduce side effects while still getting some serious gains.
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I was a long time! lurker on here before I made my account to post. I can agree with you on that, his posts were an incoherent mess of hairloss talk, transgender fetishes and rants about his ex wife. He needs help.
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Janey was constantly treating this forum as if it was about transitioning, rather than about saving your hair, no wonder he got banned.
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Perhaps. I have to admit I am not very knowledgeable on the subject. You would have to inject it precisely at the right location though (if you go subQ it will have greater/full prospensity to go systemic, and if you inject too shallow it would still cause skin atrophy just like topical applications). Not worth it, I would say.
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General comment: some people on this thread have been acting like E2 is some kind of fountain of youth. In reality, it is the only human hormone that is classified as carcinogen. I am not here to bash E2 because it has many useful effects (in particular for hair, which we are here for of course), but I want to break the tendency of literally worshipping a single hormone. It is dangerous when abused and should be handled with respect, just like and probably even more than other hormones because of its carcinogenicity. There is a reason why women have very similar E2 levels to men for a big chunk of the month (hint: because E2 is dangerous in much higher concentrations for longer periods of time).
Back on-topic: @didone_glyph thanks for posting your results with topical Bicalutamide. Again amazing proof that topical regimens can definitely work to improve things. I ran topical Bica for a short while before my stint on topical Apalutamide (now on topical Darolutamide as AA). Question: how did you manage to make a 5% solution with Bica? DMSO solubility is only 14 mg/mL (see here) and in my experience this value is pretty accurate. Main reason I switched was because I did not want to use DMSO (higher prospensity to go systemic) and because I could not get it dissolved in anything else (the long half-life was not very appealing as well).
Back on-topic: @didone_glyph thanks for posting your results with topical Bicalutamide. Again amazing proof that topical regimens can definitely work to improve things. I ran topical Bica for a short while before my stint on topical Apalutamide (now on topical Darolutamide as AA). Question: how did you manage to make a 5% solution with Bica? DMSO solubility is only 14 mg/mL (see here) and in my experience this value is pretty accurate. Main reason I switched was because I did not want to use DMSO (higher prospensity to go systemic) and because I could not get it dissolved in anything else (the long half-life was not very appealing as well).
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My E level never drops below 200 pg / ml. Is it unhealthy? Please tell us more about this if you have time. On the other hand, without the use of CPA, this is the only way to suppress T to the female level, so I would not say that we have a choice.