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Histogen...
Follica - Good News!
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Yea look how rich histogen is lmao.
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Yeah and still not dead like it should be...
Desmond_84
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Jesus! Is Follica turning 10 this year??? When I had a chat with Cotsarelis in 2014 at the Hair Congress, he seemed very much burnt out and disinterested to work on an actual final product to release to the market. He kept mentioning the money and time required to bring something out and how it's almost not worth the effort! He kept giving the Minoxidil example as the holy gospel, saying it took 10 years and 100s of millions of dollars to turn Minoxidil tablets into a lotion to apply topically... I could sense from his tone, Follica is no where near release.
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You're right that most guys just don't understand that it takes a long-*** time. If Tsuji can't get his treatment out commercially till 2020, a lot of people will lost their sh*t. Of course delays may happen, and 2020 is just a guess anyway. It will likely take a few years more than that, if it is successful.
But I can't say the same applies to Follica. Guys 10 years ago thought it was just round the corner... And now in 2018, I think we are justified in calling it a failure if not a scam.
Example of Edison perfectly shows that that word is corrupted place. It is not about goods but money. Look how he use his power to beat Tesla, who was greater then him in everything. Since I know that most people are willing take this crap like Finasteride or Rogaine it will be hard to put on market something new. Even if it works. I personally believe that Replicel would put the end of Finasteride, but yet problems, and problems and stupid medical requirements that supposedly is taking care for our “health”
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money and time are not his primary issues, though. its not having idea/product that could actually work.
butchering your head to get 40 weak hairs on your scalp isnt an actual solution. claiming there is strong science supporting follica is like claiming people can fly because they can jump and stay in air for a second.
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Exactly.
Unless it can grow more than fifty hair follicles per cm², RAIN (Follica) is a rather mediocre treatment.
This!
I was following Histogen almost from the beginning. I remember when people had discussions with one will be better Aderans or Histogen, lot’s of personal attacks, lot’s of arguments and here we go.
It is false hope.
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Things have changed in 5 years.
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and expensive
Blackber
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We have no idea how much it'll cost. No point in speculating on that.
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Really ? Lets see , :
1) You will have to go to a clinic for the initial treatment, it will take , lets say an hour ? 2 hours ?
2) Then you will have to buy a device and a " drug " from them. Not possibility for a generic verions
3) You will have to go to the clinic for period checkouts
4) How safe is, in long term, periodically damage your scalp ?
How much you will think this will cost for month ? Lest take a bet, no less than 300 usd per month for a treatment that you don't know if is safe in long term and that, in best case scenario, will not give you a full head of hair and will not treat the main problem that it is causing male pattern baldness.
And, of course, in this cost, they have to amortize 10 years of researchs.
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300/400 usd per month. It is a reasonable price.
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For 25 follicles/cm²?
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Follica will grow something more than that.
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25 terminal and 75-100 vellus...we need terminal not anything else. We don't have exact results from a final product at the moment so everything is speculation, especially if we think about the fact that we don't know if they manage to release this in 2019
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Why could not they do it...
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Don't know? Why they don't do it? İs it really possible to gain more? So many questions...
The problem is they have never claimed to achieve high density or have shown results to undermine such a theory..
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For that money you can get a lot more than that with topicals, much, much safer than damage your scalp periodically .
Try the combo minoxidil, spironolactone, alpha estradiol, ketoconazol, cetirizine and you will see.
It will fail, most people will not pay that amoun, periodical visit to their clinics, etc, for just margin regrowth. If you are bald, after 25 follicles/cm² or even 30, hey, lets make it 35 , you will still be bald and pay more than 300 usd and still being bald ? good luck with that.