Girls Only Match The Top 20% - A Tinder Study

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Not sure why johnson/tellers/his various other accounts is denying he likes the attention and being the relatively big fish in the small Impact pond, because he has said before he used to be insecure about his looks and wanted validation/boosting. had to lol when actual big fish @Wolf Pack laid the smack down. If posting Tindertastic black/white selfies and asking people to rate you isn't seeking validation then i don't know what is. His posts rarely have anything to do with the Impact of hair loss and are almost exclusively about massaging his ego

Oh I've missed you.
 

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It's so transparent. You can't talk about yourself because you cannot defend yourself as it is blatantly true. And the robotically obvious way that you divert from it makes me wonder about you mentally. Not that I think you have serious mental problems, not at all, you're basically a completely functioning and balanced human, moreso than most of us on here.

But a functioning human with incredibly annoying flaws. And I don't give a sh*t if you don't want the topic to be about you, that's what it is. I don't mind if people start the topic on me for example (which often happens), that's fine, and you give this faux attitude you are happy to discuss anything, as long as it's not you. Which as far as deep discussions go, is one of the most important ones (self-awareness).
Because you made this topic about me.

I gave an anecdote saying I do just fine with my nw3 head on tinder; I don't know why my experience bothered you.

It is honest and that's what we should all be here.

I'd say you are far less forthcoming about your dating life then most people on here
 

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Because you made this topic about me.

I gave an anecdote saying I do just fine with my nw3 head on tinder; I don't know why my experience bothered you.

It is honest and that's what we should all be here.

I'd say you are far less forthcoming about your dating life then most people on here

What the f*** kind of response is that? You get a free honest evaluation of who you appear to be, from apparently intelligent beings, and you write "because you made this topic about me". No I just pointed out a fact, and I now look like an a**h** doing that, but you are the one who stubbornly refuses to acknowledge any type of deep thought about what you're like as a person and your intentions, instead would rather go into these meaningless discussions of "but I admitted I think I'm better looking now what's the pwoblem guise?".

Of course I'm talking about my dating life less than you, haha you say this like it's a daring accusation. Do you know why? Because unless somewhat necessary, my dating life, an experience of one single human being, rarely is worth mentioning when it comes to the social patterns we regularly discuss on here. I'm not averse to talking about women I f***, if it comes up in conversation for the hell of it, but I'm definitely not going to act like this bears some weight or influence in how we should view things generally.

I think this is common sense, and I even think you already know this. Nobody gives a sh*t and it has little weight in a discussion such as this topic.

Which is why I think you intentionally started talking about how "I'm not Brad Pitt lol or the 20% lol but I f*** all the time" - queue audience telling you the obvious conclusion that you probably are in the 20% which is just what you wanted.

But I've already made that point. I don't even understand what this "because you've mad this topic about me" reply actually means, like what it's actually in response to, how we should really take this, etc. It seems like you'll just blurt out any old sh*t to divert the attention from the point (eg, someone evaluates you comprehensively and we get "aren't you a full head?). It's almost like f*****g insulting how stupid you think other people are to buy this sh*t, and actually think false pleasantries like telling us we're intelligent will barter your way out of it.

And before you start counting the f*****g minutes, I went to do something else before I finished the 2nd half of this post.
 

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I mean for f*** sake! In what way did I ever claim that I'm talking about my dating life more than you? Why would that be a positive from my point of view in such a discussion when I'm downgrading anecdotal singular experiences? Are you really thinking at all or just typing?
 

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What the f*** kind of response is that? You get a free honest evaluation of who you appear to be, from apparently intelligent beings, and you write "because you made this topic about me". No I just pointed out a fact, and I now look like an a**h** doing that, but you are the one who stubbornly refuses to acknowledge any type of deep thought about what you're like as a person and your intentions, instead would rather go into these meaningless discussions of "but I admitted I think I'm better looking now what's the pwoblem guise?".

Of course I'm talking about my dating life less than you, haha you say this like it's a daring accusation. Do you know why? Because unless somewhat necessary, my dating life, an experience of one single human being, rarely is worth mentioning when it comes to the social patterns we regularly discuss on here. I'm not averse to talking about women I f***, if it comes up in conversation for the hell of it, but I'm definitely not going to act like this bears some weight or influence in how we should view things generally.

I think this is common sense, and I even think you already know this. Nobody gives a sh*t and it has little weight in a discussion such as this topic.

Which is why I think you intentionally started talking about how "I'm not Brad Pitt lol or the 20% lol but I f*** all the time" - queue audience telling you the obvious conclusion that you probably are in the 20% which is just what you wanted.

But I've already made that point. I don't even understand what this "because you've mad this topic about me" reply actually means, like what it's actually in response to, how we should really take this, etc. It seems like you'll just blurt out any old sh*t to divert the attention from the point (eg, someone evaluates you comprehensively and we get "aren't you a full head?). It's almost like f*****g insulting how stupid you think other people are to buy this sh*t, and actually think false pleasantries like telling us we're intelligent will barter your way out of it.

And before you start counting the f*****g minutes, I went to do something else before I finished the 2nd half of this post.
The Brad Pitt comment is true - I am no brad pitt.

Don't take it out of context and look back at what I wrote: I was explaining tiers of men on the looks scale. I said I may be a 7 but the thing is that we always look up to the person better than us - so in comparison to a brad pitt I don't feel that attractive.

I hope I've explained that properly.
 

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I mean for f*** sake! In what way did I ever claim that I'm talking about my dating life more than you? Why would that be a positive from my point of view in such a discussion when I'm downgrading anecdotal singular experiences? Are you really thinking at all or just typing?
My stance is we should all be open and forthcoming about our experiences so we can begin to build a consensus this experience.
 

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The Brad Pitt comment is true - I am no brad pitt.

Yeah because that's what I was wondering. That was the focal point of my argument you zoned in on that. So well done.

I'm being sarcastic by the way. I feel the need to point this out as your reading comprehension is so poor (but probably intentionally so).
 

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Yeah because that's what I was wondering. That was the focal point of my argument you zoned in on that. So well done.

I'm being sarcastic by the way. I feel the need to point this out as your reading comprehension is so poor (but probably intentionally so).
I chose the part that seems interesting to me.

You made around 5 points and I wasn't going to address them all because I was at the gym.
 

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If you have one specific area you want me to address then just ask
 

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Arent you a fullhead?
I wish :-(
I was NW6 at 30 and underwent two FUTs, with an expense of say 12000 euros.
Done two PRP sessions and one temporary SMP to hide the FUT scar (at that time FUE did not exist).
My hair loss is diffuse yet. A person who is NW8 in his genes will never be a "fullhead" until Tsuji comes.
The lotions I use are to KEEP THE TRANSPLANTED HAIR WHERE IT IS.
 

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this should be your sig
I was thinking of the same thing.
"I honestly am no Brad Pitt."
"Oh really?"
See what I mean by passive aggressive? To say things that are not necessarily insults (passive), but that are so out of line that of course they mean something else (aggressive).
 

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I remember reading yesterday that Rudiger essentially mentioned that transparency of character from Johnson would be better. So it's actually more about how to conduct yourself when in this section. I agreed with him when he said it's actually nothing to do with looks, rather how you talk about it. In that it's more about validation and not helping others. Like he said, if someone is attractive, they'll clearly state that and write about their experiences, however, there'll be something for others to learn there. It will prove beneficial/interesting to them in some way. It's good for everyone to write about their personal lives, there's something there for everyone, however small.

Reason I think people are angry with Johnson is due to perceived superiority and subtle bragging. People don't find it cool when its to deliberately make them feel bad. I mean doing that online, especially in a section where most regulars are struggling with looks/hair is not great. In the past I've been accused of something similar but @Exodus2011 said he realised I am only writing my experiences and am supportive of all people. Most people agree with this consensus. There is no need for me to get validation on here since I know what/how my life is. I've supported 40 year olds on here who had more hair than me or people who had way less. More rounded posts would benefit others.

For the record I vaguely remember some of Johnson's pics. I'd say he was around a 6-7 with full hair. It's quite sad that you suffer from low self esteem and need validation at this age too despite your positive experiences. You should have already realised this and your posts should be different. If you'd helped some of the guys on here, maybe they'd be warmer. Take the example of @DoctorHouse he's much older but liked pretty much by all members regardless of age, norwood and looks. Why? Because while he has apparently a fullish head of hair and no look concerns, he's helped a lot of people on here while writing about his own experiences.

It's not just a case of "misery loves company." I know that also exists on here but people need to be able to relate to the man behind the screen in this section and feel good about who they are talking to. They could add humour, interesting stories, be supportive e.t.c.

I know a few people who have left this section because they've found the posts repetitive, too many passive aggressive attacks, false delusional stories, people full of envy and seeking validation. The mental state of many members drove some away. And those members have been different genders, looks and norwood level. The welfare of this section lies in all different people getting along (pretty well) and learning/debating constructively.

I don't think many are angry with me at all.

Its just one or two who I have argued with in the past - these things tend to repeat themselves again and again (especially with one regular poster).

I had more arguments a year or two ago when I was more blue pilled.

The truth is that I'm probably one of the more open posters in terms of pictures and experiences I've shared about myself.

I've always stated that anyone can pm me any question they have and I've always been friendly to those who ask with respect.
 

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As for Rudiger - we tend to get on really well in the past and this is the first time we squabbled - I don't take it personally and I will respond to him properly when I'm not at work
 

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Because it makes you feel good and gives you a temporary high of validation. Same way you can f*** women below your level of attractiveness and get validation from the pleasure they feel. It's pretty simple.

Or to put it more simply, nobody cares about your personal anecdotal experience on Tinder. You are one person, not even a group of people, not even a "most of my friends" anecdote, just a "my experience" anecdote. For the most part you do seem pretty understanding in what is relevant to others generally, but the fact that this is a thread based on a wider scale of experience, and you seem to think your single Tinder experience means something, tells me you don't really care about making a point, just getting across the point you get laid.

From seeing maybe 2 or 3 pictures of you I'd say I'm more attractive than you and I'm in that 20% based on how I see myself in pictures and the reaction I get from females, and also males acknowledgement of my ability to attract. That's not a humble brag, or even a brag, that's just how it is. But I know people don't care about my singular experiences in life as it's based on such a narrow point of view, that it's pointless even worth mentioning.

The only reason I'd have to mention such a thing so consistently is if I needed some validation or acknowledgement from "strangers on the internet" that I'm attractive, when really I'd rather learn from actual wider points of view than give my teasing "I'm no Brad Pitt he he but I'm alright and slay all the time" point of view.
describe your looks i'm curious are you hotter than fred? assuming fred is same as johnson, around a 6-7. are you saying you are a 7-8?
 

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I don't think many are angry with me at all.

Its just one or two who I have argued with in the past - these things tend to repeat themselves again and again (especially with one regular poster).

I had more arguments a year or two ago when I was more blue pilled.

The truth is that I'm probably one of the more open posters in terms of pictures and experiences I've shared about myself.

I've always stated that anyone can pm me any question they have and I've always been friendly to those who ask with respect.
you're too hot for us to be angry at you, dat halo bru
 

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describe your looks i'm curious are you hotter than fred? assuming fred is same as johnson, around a 6-7. are you saying you are a 7-8?

I haven't seen Fred but is general consensus he's the same as Johnson? I'd say yes I'm at least 7, maybe 8, my forehead however is big (so obviously recession is a killer) but from eyebrows down s'all good.

I've definitely written about this before but not mentioned it a lot, because I don't think it's relevant to most people a lot of the time. I completely get the "red pill" theory that sometimes I don't have to remotely try at all with women, but then realise as well there's other variables a lot of the time too.

I probably do have the similar depressing type superficial women stories we read online, but while sometimes my looks are worth mentioning as a context, these stories just don't really give anything we don't already know, and are just un-necessary (and I certainly feel no sense of accomplishment either).
 
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