Head Shapes And Facial Constructions That Predispose You To Balding

[WaccWaccWacc]

I agree with whatintheworld for the majority. However, I think being bald and actually having no hair exaggerates the idea of a “wide forehead” and “big head” drastically. It looks big because the term big visually means large and when you are lacking hair in areas where hair belongs then you have a larger area and thus “big head”.

Not only that but the counter party... the NW0’s with hair growing on their forehead... they get their hair cuts such that it shaped/formed in a particular style that makes the hair right behind the hairline appear as its part of their head when in reality its so low its really on their forehead. Therefore this gives the optical illusion that these non balding folks have the “ideal” forehead size when in reality its smaller than usual.

 

[whatintheworld]

I agree with whatintheworld for the majority. However, I think being bald and actually having no hair exaggerates the idea of a “wide forehead” and “big head” drastically. It looks big because the term big visually means large and when you are lacking hair in areas where hair belongs then you have a larger area and thus “big head”.

Not only that but the counter party... the NW0’s with hair growing on their forehead... they get their hair cuts such that it shaped/formed in a particular style that makes the hair right behind the hairline appear as its part of their head when in reality its so low its really on their forehead. Therefore this gives the optical illusion that these non balding folks have the “ideal” forehead size when in reality its smaller than usual.

I wish some research was done on this with actual measurements, I feel like it would be quite a useful study.

 

[Mitko1]

I would further like to clarify that while the mixture of gene expressions that OP observes is most common, like with everything, there are exceptions. But exceptions perhaps do more to prove the rule than provide evidence for anything else, and it further confirms just how complicated male pattern baldness is.

Suppose that scientists found that exact combination of genes activated during the male pattern baldness process. If there was some way to deactivate this chain, I suspect the effects would be far more significant than simply keeping the hair on the top of your head. Countless other things about your face and bone structure would also change, because of how these things are, unfortunately for us, intertwined.

It is really a cruel and terrifying situation in some respects. Not only do you lose your self identity with a crucial part of your face, your actual face goes through changes itself. You truly become a completely different person when you lose your hair, in more ways than one.

"Researchers have noted an anecdotal relationship between skull shape and baldness patterning, even in newbornswhose skull shapes often show similarities to Androgenetic Alopecia-affected skulls and whose hair often grows in reverse order of Androgenetic Alopecia patterning as the cranium develops during adolescence [68] Structural Tension GA Scalp tension in the tissues above the GA appears to match the pattern and progression of Androgenetic Alopecia where the highest tension points correspond to the first places of Androgenetic Alopecia onset [57]."

And people still don't believe me.

I noticed also that many men with premature baldness have ridged scalp. Especially Norwood 7s.

Look at this guy's ridged scalp

His galea looks wide not only because of his flat cheekbones, but it's also wide on its own. Dr- Phill has the same ridged scalp and Bruce Willis. I don't know what is the influence of this ridge but the blood supply might have trouble reaching the scalp because of this rigde and then this accelerates the baldness and might increase severity.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

"Researchers have noted an anecdotal relationship between skull shape and baldness patterning, even in newbornswhose skull shapes often show similarities to Androgenetic Alopecia-affected skulls and whose hair often grows in reverse order of Androgenetic Alopecia patterning as the cranium develops during adolescence [68] Structural Tension GA Scalp tension in the tissues above the GA appears to match the pattern and progression of Androgenetic Alopecia where the highest tension points correspond to the first places of Androgenetic Alopecia onset [57]."

And people still don't believe me.

I noticed also that many men with premature baldness have ridged scalp. Especially Norwood 7s.

Look at this guy's ridged scalp

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His galea looks wide not only because of his flat cheekbones, but it's also wide on its own. Dr- Phill has the same ridged scalp and Bruce Willis. I don't know what is the influence of this ridge but the blood supply might have trouble reaching the scalp because of this rigde and then this accelerates the baldness and might increase severity.

No.

How many people have to tell you that posting pictures as evidence is not good evidence? You continue to do so. Can you just f*****g stop? It’s annoying.

Your counter argument is “men with good head shapes and posture CANT go bald”. Well since they have full thick hair on their head we can't show you their scalp dumbass. The full NW0 scalp shaved bald is similar to another mens head that has male pattern baldness, this I can guarantee you. If you dont think I can find 2 people out of 7 billion that have similar head shapes one bald and one NW0... you’re dumb.

You’re 1 dumb comment away from being ignored.

 

[Mitko1]

If you want more predictions I can tell that this this guy will lose hair in the future:

His father has hair and his brother is not thinning but his cranofacial development is worse that theirs. He has veritical facial growth, flat cheekbones, wide galea and narrow palate. I don't know his grandparent.

 

[Armando Jose]

In hundred years all baldies, as it said in my country,
but this guy can retain his hair, high thickness and density hair, IMHO

 

[Mitko1]

In hundred years all baldies, as it said in my country,
but this guy can retain his hair, high thickness and density hair, IMHO

That's not true - If you are genetically immune you can be 200 year old and still have hair. As I said people with poor cranofacial development and poor posture can have hair for life but this is less common. Most of the times they bald. And having a thick hair doesn't mean you won't be bald. I thought the same but it was debunked.

 

[Armando Jose]

Debunked by who?

 

[Mitko1]

Debunked by who?

Bruce willis - he had dense hair but still went bald. As you can see he has vertical facial growth and flat cheekbones.

 

[Armando Jose]

Why BW went bald?
BW used a lot of hairloss meds, maybe this was the cause, also he shaved his scalp many times,.....
Nice try, but generally people with thicker and dense hair dont develop common hair loss, you can see examples in the web

 

[Mitko1]

Why BW went bald?
BW used a lot of hairloss meds, maybe this was the cause, also he shaved his scalp many times,.....
Nice try, but generally people with thicker and dense hair dont develop common hair loss, you can see examples in the web

It's classic male pattern baldness omg - He is slick.

 

[Niki99]

What do you think? Is he bald or balding? Yes or no and please explain why you made your decision.

Also why was Kutcher balding? He does not have poor craniofacial development.

 

[pegasus2]

I'm still curious why people don't go bald again after a hair transplant. Does it change their craniofacial development?

 

[Mitko1]

What do you think? Is he bald or balding? Yes or no and please explain why you made your decision.

Also why was Kutcher balding? He does not have poor craniofacial development.

Don't know. Don't care. I am not feeling well right now. I might have temperature and flu. Probably poor posture.

I'm still curious why people don't go bald again after a hair transplant. Does it change their craniofacial development?

Hair transplant doesn't stop balding. People will start balding after hair transplant If they don't take finasteride.

 

[Niki99]

Don't know. Don't care. I am not feeling well right now. I might have temperature and flu. Probably poor posture.



Hair transplant doesn't stop balding. People will start balding after hair transplant If they don't take finasteride.

No, not don't know. Take your time. But you are so skilled I thought and can predict balding. So tell me if he is balding or not and explain why. If you do it now or in 3 days I don't care. But do it.

 

[baba_yaga]

Don't know. Don't care

Mitko! As a true scientist, you cant say that to others' claims. You have to prove them wrong, as you've been already doing for the major part of your career on the forum.

 

[Mitko1]

Mitko! As a true scientist, you cant say that to others' claims. You have to prove them wrong, as you've been already doing for the major part of your career on the forum.

I'do it. I was not feeling well yesterday, but I am feeling better now and I will say: Ashton Kutcher has a badly dropped down jawline causing his head to tilt forward. I doubt that he'd be completely bald If he wasn't on avodart. He doesn't have typical cranofacial features of baldies.

And look at his father:

His brother however is in a much worse situation. He has the typical features - Flat cheekbones, vertical face and a narrow much more dropped down jawline:

 

[Mitko1]

@Ritchie I think that catagen is right and people here are looking for treatment and don't want to believe that their scull and facial development are the cause of their hair loss despite the evidence and want to believe that is a condition caused solely by hormones because it's easy to change your hormones, but you can't change your scull and you can do little to improve your facial development because it's mostly due to genetics. Look at Aston Kutcher's Father and his much more horizontal face than his son - Aston Kutcher's twin brother Michael Kutcher. The son is balding while the father isn't.

 

[Ritchie]

@Ritchie I think that catagen is right and people here are looking for treatment and don't want to believe that their scull and facial development are the cause of their hair loss despite the evidence and want to believe that is a condition caused solely by hormones because it's easy to change your hormones, but you can't change your scull and you can do little to improve your facial development because it's mostly due to genetics. Look at Aston Kutcher's Father and his much more horizontal face than his son - Aston Kutcher's twin brother Michael Kutcher. The son is balding while the father isn't.

I do not believe ashton kutcher is balding. I think he is like a norwood 2 or higher, he probably also has a weird galea under that mop of hair like this man for example. Norwood 2 doesnt mean balding though and people here using ashton kucther as an example just because he is on treatments is wrong. Rob Lowe is also on finasteride and he would not have gone bald even if he wasnt on it. But yeah his face is not exactly horizontal. His face is longer than sam worthingtons too.

 

[Mitko1]

I do not believe ashton kutcher is balding. I think he is like a norwood 2 or higher, he probably also has a weird galea under that mop of hair like this man for example. Norwood 2 doesnt mean balding though and people here using ashton kucther as an example just because he is on treatments is wrong. Rob Lowe is also on finasteride and he would not have gone bald even if he wasnt on it. But yeah his face is not exactly horizontal. His face is longer than sam worthingtons too.

Even If the galea is smooth on top when I see a balding men in person it still looks big and expanded. For example this men is losing hair in diffuse thinning but his galea still looks oddly shaped, big and expanded as in balding men who recede.