"hot" Chicks With One Major Flaw ?

shookwun

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Is 2 dates in 2 weeks meant to be special online? Also depends how hot.

Anyway I was just teasing on here when I said he won the argument. There's a common sarcastic view held on here that the one with the most hair wins, especially when he closes in with a bald jibe.

In reality, both online and real life are tools to date. Just one provides more of a rush and spontaneous than flicking your fingers and matching other girls who are looking for someone.

I've always enjoyed getting to know a girl in a club, it's all looks but most girls want the physical and mental stimulation = game too. It's all an experience for them, fun all round. I did it more when I was younger. A lot of hot girls are not even on Tinder, I was dating a 9 and none of her friends were on it. They were young too. They have no need to be on it. Same principle applies to a coffee shop or mall. Girls dig meeting handsome nice guys naturally as it's more romantic.

There are many relationships formed on Tinder though so it's all good. I prefer to date someone I know and since I'm outgoing and quite social, it's not a problem. I've had friends who couldn't pull for **** in real life or get much attention, yet going on dates regularly on Tinder. Nothing to do with being photogenic. Just Tinder is already set up to make people meet (obviously), girls more willing to have sex or settle down. I prefer to unearth jems in real life, tend to be better long term partners and prettier over online connoisseurs. This is the feedback I got from people using both Tinder and dating girls they know in their social circles.

Tinder plays a role though, to sleep with as many girls as possible looks max. But I don't really care about that anymore plus quality > quantity for me. When I was 18, I used to get 5-10 messages a day on early social apps, at that point it wasn't even officially for dating. Most those girls I would never date long term as I felt there was something missing in them. I know dating has come a long way since then but still online is a back up option. A lot of girls may be on Tinder but for many it's more as an extension of socialising and validation over dating, free dinner.

Just to add if I met a girl online through an unrelated forum, or facebook friends of friends, I view that differently. When it's like "match making" on Tinder just sounds a little like left overs.



I am the same way. I am all about the rush, and spontaneous build up. best of all, I am actually learning how to develop my social skills.

Tinder left me insecure, because truth be told It never taught me how to meet women. It's all set up and done, and there is no room for failure outside of having shitty photos. I pulled quite a few chicks online, but like aformentioned it never game me the that natural rush of pulling a women the following night. What ended up happening is that I new how to meet women online, but lacked the ability to overcome my actuall fears - approaching women in person. WHERE IT MATTERS MOST

Ever since I started learning game, and getting into self-development I have completely changed my mind set, and it has made me a better person in the process. I am becoming confident in my own abilities, which is what I want. The ability to be free, and talk to women without hesitation.

it takes years of positive progress to over come years of insecurity.


2 dates lol

A date, number yada yada yada doesn't mean anything to me, until i am sticking my dick in her pussy. it's the only validation that matters. Rest is mental masterbation.
 

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I am the same way. I am all about the rush, and spontaneous build up. best of all, I am actually learning how to develop my social skills.

Tinder left me insecure, because truth be told It never taught me how to meet women. It's all set up and done, and there is no room for failure outside of having shitty photos. I pulled quite a few chicks online, but like aformentioned it never game me the that natural rush of pulling a women the following night. What ended up happening is that I new how to meet women online, but lacked the ability to overcome my actuall fears - approaching women in person. WHERE IT MATTERS MOST

Ever since I started learning game, and getting into self-development I have completely changed my mind set, and it has made me a better person in the process. I am becoming confident in my own abilities, which is what I want. The ability to be free, and talk to women without hesitation.

it takes years of positive progress to over come years of insecurity.


2 dates lol

A date, number yada yada yada doesn't mean anything to me, until i am sticking my dick in her pussy. it's the only validation that matters. Rest is mental masterbation.

Man what an idiot. There is a process to sticking your dick in the pussy, and that means meeting offline, connecting etc unless of course you pay them, which is what I suspect you do.
 

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its been a massive game changer for me.

People can talk all the sh*t they want, but man I am seeing the difference every weekend that goes by.

I ended up pulling 3 chicks this weekend. fri, sat , sunday I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE

So yeah, people can say what they want. 2 months ago I could barely get a make out in the club.

It was never my looks, it was my vibe, energy and lack of game.

Nobody is denying vibe is important. You are still an idiot though.
 

shookwun

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Man what an idiot. There is a process to sticking your dick in the pussy, and that means meeting offline, connecting etc unless of course you pay them, which is what I suspect you do.


Dont hate, appreciate.

I lold at your whole setting up a second online date, like it means anything.

1 PHYSICAL date in 2 weeks is fairly pathetic, considering tinder is a 24/7 operation

I am assuming by your previous post, you got nothing out of it. While you see women during the day, I take them out during the night, and put myself in a position to get laid.

i sympathize with you
 

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Dont hate, appreciate.

I lold at your whole setting up a second online date, like it means anything.

1 PHYSICAL date in 2 weeks is fairly pathetic, considering tinder is a 24/7 operation

I am assuming by your previous post, you got nothing out of it. While you see women during the day, I take them out during the night, and put myself in a position to get laid.

i sympathize with you
@shookwun, he does not know how you used to be back in the day. You were more like he was until you got your er um ..............OK I will be respectful and polite.......feet wet.
 

shookwun

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@shookwun, he does not know how you used to be back in the day. You were more like he was until you got your er um ..............OK I will be respectful and polite.......feet wet.
Doctorhouse, sometimes I forget where I came from.

3-3.5 years ago, i was in the same position as this chap. progress is progress. it's easy to forget where we came from

what's important is that overtime we gain confidence from this competence, as you mentioned earlier. Like the adam & eve reference, I am reading Jordan Peterson's new book also :D
 

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Doctorhouse, sometimes I forget where I came from.

3-3.5 years ago, i was in the same position as this chap. progress is progress. it's easy to forget where we came from

what's important is that overtime we gain confidence from this competence, as you mentioned earlier. Like the adam & eve reference, I am reading Jordan Peterson's new book also :D
@shookwun , I am at rule number 4. I love that rule but I violate it all the time. Compare yourself to who you were yesterday instead of (in our case) other men who we encounter. I never do that. I compare myself to men of all ages and all it does is cause despair. Part of rule number 4 that I learned is: To compare is to despair. You are learning this stuff decades before I did so you are going to evolve so much better and faster than I ever did. These guys don't realize how much great insight and advice you are giving them. You and I tend to speak our own language and we get each other. And not only that you are no longer as cocky delivering your insight which I admire about you. I love your message, don't hate, appreciate!!!!
 

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Dont hate, appreciate.

I lold at your whole setting up a second online date, like it means anything.

1 PHYSICAL date in 2 weeks is fairly pathetic, considering tinder is a 24/7 operation

I am assuming by your previous post, you got nothing out of it. While you see women during the day, I take them out during the night, and put myself in a position to get laid.

i sympathize with you

BRAG BRAG BRAG.

Dickhead.

I have nothing to prove to you. You are just a sad pathetic human being.
 

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Doctorhouse, sometimes I forget where I came from.

3-3.5 years ago, i was in the same position as this chap. progress is progress. it's easy to forget where we came from

what's important is that overtime we gain confidence from this competence, as you mentioned earlier. Like the adam & eve reference, I am reading Jordan Peterson's new book also :D

What an arrogant sh*t, you actually think that I want your life???? f*** off, dickhead.

For the record I could be going on a lot more dates if I went on a date with every girl that talks to me, I am just extremely selective and ignore many.
 
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@shookwun, he does not know how you used to be back in the day. You were more like he was until you got your er um ..............OK I will be respectful and polite.......feet wet.

Don't know why you are justifying his behaviour, when the guy is a mr big mouth know it all - no ounce of humility with his 'look at me attitude'. In contrast, some of my friends who are picking up regularly keep it on the low and don't act in a patronising way.
 

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What an arrogant sh*t, you actually think that I want your life. f*** off, dickhead.

For the record I could be going on a lot more dates if I went on a date with every girl that talks to me, I am just extremely selective and ignore many.

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triggered


Now you are proclaimed Chad in motion

'I could be getting laid so much more if I wanted. I just you know am very selective and have very high standards.'

:D


Don't know why you are justifying his behaviour, when the guy is a mr big mouth know it all - no ounce of humility with his 'look at me attitude'. In contrast, some of my friends who are picking up regularly keep it on the low and don't act in a patronising way.
Neither do I.

Triggered
 

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Now you are proclaimed Chad in motion

'I could be getting laid so much more if I wanted. I just you know am very selective and have very high standards.'

:D



Neither do I.

Triggered

I just find you rude, and disappointed at how Dr House is endorsing you.

You are a cocky little sh*t, I hope somebody brings you back down to earth and kicks your head in, in real life.
 

shookwun

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I just find you rude, and disappointed at how Dr House is endorsing you.

You are a cocky little sh*t, I hope somebody brings you back down to earth and kicks your head in, in real life.
rattled jimmies detected

Not cocky, just a realist.
 

DoctorHouse

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I just find you rude, and disappointed at how Dr House is endorsing you.

You are a cocky little sh*t, I hope somebody brings you back down to earth and kicks your head in, in real life.
@Oknow, I am endorsing Jordan Peterson's new book and discussing the topic with someone who is reading it too. He is just sharing his experiences on here from his perspective. I have observed the same things he has. I don't consider that an endorsement for @shookwun. I just can relate to what he is talking about because I have experienced exactly what he is talking about when he sees good looking guys alone because they are too afraid to approach women. It happens. He is just giving advice. He is not forcing you to follow it. Trust me he can care less what anyone on here does with their dating skills.
 

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@shookwun I'm just going to come out and point what I see here, since no one else seems to pick it up. What you're currently going through looks like a manic phase to me, I could be wrong though. You seem way too enthusiastic, never mentions the possibility of failure, shame, taking it too far, etc. I haven't seen any negativity in your posts for a few months now, which some would say is great, who needs that?! We should all be happy all the time! Also there is this common thread running through your posts about having figured everything out forever and you seem to think that the high you're experiencing at the moment will last forever.

Try to monitor your behavior. If you get feedback from people, whether it's on this forum on in real life, try not to dismiss them as normie jelly incels who want to rain on your parade because they cannot be as awesome as you are right now. I know what it's like to think you're on top of the world, to be overconfident opening all women in sight and being reasonably successful on the dating scene, some women see this overflow of energy, this assertiveness as strength and they're easily swayed by men acting like that. That is in the initial stage, they jump over your c***, they think you're this amazing person who make life a constant party. Then at a point they realize that you're an unstable and unpredictable mess.

Also the fact that you started believing in all this game nonsense again is worrying, as those theories have been debunked and buried over and over again now. Game was a marketing scheme, it doesn't exist, no science has identified such concept. What you describe here are high-extroversion and low-neuroticism which are genetic personality traits, they can't be learned, so it's ridiculous to mock other people because they don't want to adopt a lifestyle that suits you. Online dating works perfectly fine for some people, I'm a living example of that, and other people on this forum have explained that it works very well for them too.

Your posts lately sound more and more like those cheap self-help/PUA books, with this talk of energy and seeing approaching strange women indiscriminately as being a good strategy. You pay a price for everything you do, and those rejection that you inevitably get will not be harmless on your psyche, you can try to smother the shame you're supposed to feel, but you unconscious mind inevitably picks it up. Anyway, I'm just saying, be careful, I know coming down can be extremely painful.

I also saw that @Oknow was advocating "you shouldn't care about what anyone thinks of you". That's a big mistake too, you should take the feedback you get from other people seriously. You can't become good with women by following simple rules like "don't give a f***!" or "just go out and aggressively approach them indiscriminately!". Like anything else you want to get good at, it's a complex and difficult endeavor that requires lots of of research on the subject, experiences, discernment, thinking, patience, mistakes and negative emotions. Those two last ones are currently missing in shookwun's post, and this is what worries me. Just my two cents.
I think because he's just excited he's finally doing well with women after a bad start in his teens and early twenties.

Part of the excitement of that leads to bragging.

I was the same: until 26 I was pretty terrible with women. From 27 to 30 I slept around a fair bit and because I was finally proud of that I bragged about it quite a lot.

On my first year here, when I posted under my old username, I used to brag quite a lot.

I think its a way of trying to reassure yourself that you are now worthy.
 

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@shookwun I'm just going to come out and point what I see here, since no one else seems to pick it up. What you're currently going through looks like a manic phase to me, I could be wrong though. You seem way too enthusiastic, never mentions the possibility of failure, shame, taking it too far, etc. I haven't seen any negativity in your posts for a few months now, which some would say is great, who needs that?! We should all be happy all the time! Also there is this common thread running through your posts about having figured everything out forever and you seem to think that the high you're experiencing at the moment will last forever.

Try to monitor your behavior. If you get feedback from people, whether it's on this forum on in real life, try not to dismiss them as normie jelly incels who want to rain on your parade because they cannot be as awesome as you are right now. I know what it's like to think you're on top of the world, to be overconfident opening all women in sight and being reasonably successful on the dating scene, some women see this overflow of energy, this assertiveness as strength and they're easily swayed by men acting like that. That is in the initial stage, they jump over your c***, they think you're this amazing person who make life a constant party. Then at a point they realize that you're an unstable and unpredictable mess.

Also the fact that you started believing in all this game nonsense again is worrying, as those theories have been debunked and buried over and over again now. Game was a marketing scheme, it doesn't exist, no science has identified such concept. What you describe here are high-extroversion and low-neuroticism which are genetic personality traits, they can't be learned, so it's ridiculous to mock other people because they don't want to adopt a lifestyle that suits you. Online dating works perfectly fine for some people, I'm a living example of that, and other people on this forum have explained that it works very well for them too.

Your posts lately sound more and more like those cheap self-help/PUA books, with this talk of energy and seeing approaching strange women indiscriminately as being a good strategy. You pay a price for everything you do, and those rejection that you inevitably get will not be harmless on your psyche, you can try to smother the shame you're supposed to feel, but you unconscious mind inevitably picks it up. Anyway, I'm just saying, be careful, I know coming down can be extremely painful.

I also saw that @Oknow was advocating "you shouldn't care about what anyone thinks of you". That's a big mistake too, you should take the feedback you get from other people seriously. You can't become good with women by following simple rules like "don't give a f***!" or "just go out and aggressively approach them indiscriminately!". Like anything else you want to get good at, it's a complex and difficult endeavor that requires lots of of research on the subject, experiences, discernment, thinking, patience, mistakes and negative emotions. Those two last ones are currently missing in shookwun's post, and this is what worries me. Just my two cents.

Shookwun is f*****g narcissistic with sociopathic tendencies.
 

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@shookwun I'm just going to come out and point what I see here, since no one else seems to pick it up. What you're currently going through looks like a manic phase to me, I could be wrong though. You seem way too enthusiastic, never mentions the possibility of failure, shame, taking it too far, etc. I haven't seen any negativity in your posts for a few months now, which some would say is great, who needs that?! We should all be happy all the time! Also there is this common thread running through your posts about having figured everything out forever and you seem to think that the high you're experiencing at the moment will last forever.

Try to monitor your behavior. If you get feedback from people, whether it's on this forum on in real life, try not to dismiss them as normie jelly incels who want to rain on your parade because they cannot be as awesome as you are right now. I know what it's like to think you're on top of the world, to be overconfident opening all women in sight and being reasonably successful on the dating scene, some women see this overflow of energy, this assertiveness as strength and they're easily swayed by men acting like that. That is in the initial stage, they jump over your c***, they think you're this amazing person who make life a constant party. Then at a point they realize that you're an unstable and unpredictable mess.

Also the fact that you started believing in all this game nonsense again is worrying, as those theories have been debunked and buried over and over again now. Game was a marketing scheme, it doesn't exist, no science has identified such concept. What you describe here are high-extroversion and low-neuroticism which are genetic personality traits, they can't be learned, so it's ridiculous to mock other people because they don't want to adopt a lifestyle that suits you. Online dating works perfectly fine for some people, I'm a living example of that, and other people on this forum have explained that it works very well for them too.

Your posts lately sound more and more like those cheap self-help/PUA books, with this talk of energy and seeing approaching strange women indiscriminately as being a good strategy. You pay a price for everything you do, and those rejection that you inevitably get will not be harmless on your psyche, you can try to smother the shame you're supposed to feel, but you unconscious mind inevitably picks it up. Anyway, I'm just saying, be careful, I know coming down can be extremely painful.

I also saw that @Oknow was advocating "you shouldn't care about what anyone thinks of you". That's a big mistake too, you should take the feedback you get from other people seriously. You can't become good with women by following simple rules like "don't give a f***!" or "just go out and aggressively approach them indiscriminately!". Like anything else you want to get good at, it's a complex and difficult endeavor that requires lots of of research on the subject, experiences, discernment, thinking, patience, mistakes and negative emotions. Those two last ones are currently missing in shookwun's post, and this is what worries me. Just my two cents.
Great post but I honestly think @shookwun is very aware of failure too. He has been there too. You have to fail to succeed. You have to struggle to grow. I think by now, most of you guys are aware of this and if you are not, be prepared as it will happen.

However, the fact that you care enough to make him aware of this shows you have great character @WhitePolarBear. I admire that in you and hope shook will take this as a positive gesture with only good intentions.

Most people are on this forum for validation. So alot of the sharing we do will be construed as "humble bragging" which Johnson so clearly confessed he is guilty of. Wolf Pack seems to trigger people with some of the stories he shares but I don't really know if he is seeking validation subconsciously as he seems like one of the most secure guys on here. I think alot of his validation comes from PMs with people he interacts with behind the scenes. I will confess I am the same in that respect.

Even though I have read the book, The Art of Not Giving a f***, I can still tell you my wiring will always care about what people say about me. Your wiring will determine your level of sensitivity of what will bother you and what won't. The fact that some of us have developed great friendships on this forum is amazing since we have never actually met each other in person. I think support forums are great in exposing yourself to people who think just like yourself. Hopefully some day some us will really meet in person.
 

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Nah, he's just on a high because he's on a winning-streak in one domain in particular: banging girls.

In 2011, during my drug-induced manic phase, I'd behave pretty much like does at the moment on this forum, putting down everyone who was trying to rain on my parade or wouldn't agree with me.

It's a mood regulation problem, I know shook has talked about having ups and downs, sometimes he goes way up, and sometimes he sinks into depression. It's not necessarily a bad thing in the short-term, because it can lead to some epic life experiences, but as I've said, you need to come down at a point.

Only two years ago, I was still banging a lot of girls left and right, but I had learned to keep my head cool. Even though I was still bragging on this forum, like @JohnsonDDG , even posting pictures from my sex tapes to atomize the naysayers. That was my line of thinking at the time, and I easily got carried away.

But he's no narcissist, he doesn't hold grudges and I've seen him being genuinely empathetic towards other members many times.

The sooner he learns that there is strength in humility, he will be able to then captivate people and influence them easily. He will read that and probably think that I am chatting crap, but little does he know I’m in a management position in a FTSE 500 company.

Right now this boy is a kid, I’m 32 and he is talking to me like he is older with tonnes more of life experience. What a dickhead.
 
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