How to be considered HOT when bald....

[EvilLocks]

I have never handed out a red star(negative rep) to anyone except Exodus as he loves dishing them out to me. The fact that I have minor hair loss is why nothing I post has any credibility to him. I cut him slack as he is very young and has not experienced enough life to know that I always have good intentions in my posts and I try to be positive with different perspectives. I am not asking anyone to "adopt" any insight I post.

You may be older but you haven't experienced the devastating effects of true baldness, like Exodus has. So in that way he has way more experience than you. How about trying to have a little respect for those less fortunate than you? You have no idea what they've been through, since you haven't been through it yourself. I can understand why Exodus doesn't take you seriously because he simply cannot relate to you. You are on a hair loss site with minimal hair loss, of course some people are gonna jump on you.

 

[Wolf Pack]

I think the rep system is not so accurate with certain people. Some people who in my opinion have contributed absolutely nothing helpful have more green stars than they really deserve. I think some may be given out of sympathy and some may be given out of popularity or as a "high five". I have never handed out a red star(negative rep) to anyone except Exodus as he loves dishing them out to me. The fact that I have minor hair loss is why nothing I post has any credibility to him. I cut him slack as he is very young and has not experienced enough life to know that I always have good intentions in my posts and I try to be positive with different perspectives. I am not asking anyone to "adopt" any insight I post.

I agree about the rep system. Some times it's like a pitiful man will get green and someone who they are bitter about gets red. It then becomes a bullying culture somewhat. That's why I look at the posts and behaviour of the individual, not just the rep.

So what if you are older and only have minor loss? I am younger than you and I have slightly more loss. Should I neg you? Do you owe the world anything for having those cards dealt to you? The answer is no, just like I don't owe anyone for anything either. No one should have to be apologetic about looks/hair e.t.c. Understanding and sensitive, yes. But it goes BOTH ways. We all have some hair loss and therefore have a place on this board. You're on Propecia all these years!

Literally everyone knows that you're one of the best posters on here who puts thought into his responses.

And I will not cut Exodus any slack due to his age. He is old enough, in his early 20s. I am almost 30 but when I was that age I was the same as I am now. Your adult personality is formed by your early 20s for sure. I've always had other problems growing up but at his age I was studying and volunteering in an residential home for old people with dementia. Nothing amazing, but I wasn't like how he was. Oh but I wasn't Kojak right, so I was able to function. :wacko: I have known people who have serious issues and also bald, yet do function and socialise. Not some twisted mindset.

The reason I made this post is because guys like you and swing have actually given him so much advice over the years, like wasted your time and he dishes out negs to make him feel like a man or something. Lets not forget the receders thread he made and countless other stuff. Negs for me giving advice on Marijuana e.t.c. The massive argument with notcool too I remember.

Also DH, it's real life that counts so don't take Ex too seriously. I am considering handing out a temporary ban though if he persists in winding up senior respected members. It's not good for this section at all which is meant to be a place of mature discussion. I wouldn't normally do this.

Perhaps it will help him reflect. Oh and Ex, no one buys that you neg about Tatum or Marijuana. You neg because you hate lower norwoods, anyone with a good career, looks, height, happiness, list goes on. As it's everything you feel you never will have. Again, this is no one's fault on here that you have that mindset/genetic predisposition.

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You may be older but you haven't experienced the devastating effects of true baldness, like Exodus has. So in that way he has way more experience than you. How about trying to have a little respect for those less fortunate than you? You have no idea what they've been through, since you haven't been through it yourself. I can understand why Exodus doesn't take you seriously because he simply cannot relate to you. You are on a hair loss site with minimal hair loss, of course some people are gonna jump on you.

Please find me a post where he has not shown respect? Thanks. Strange, because I can find posts where DH or others have been attacked and not shown respect. Respect goes both ways. So that's definitely breaking the forum rules.

Not relating to someone doesn't mean you attack them. DH has mentioned he has had issues with BDD in the past, depression, anxiety and he takes Propecia. Not enough to be on this board? Is this a forum just for cueballs? Ask Admin and see what he says. Fact is he is one the most polite members on here.

I agree if a propecia/full head/natural troll comes on here it's a different story.

 

[EvilLocks]

Please find me a post where he has not shown respect? Thanks. Strange, because I can find posts where DH or others have been attacked and not shown respect. Respect goes both ways. So that's definitely breaking the forum rules.

Okay, that probably came out wrong. I haven't seen DH be rude or mean to anyone, I didn't mean that. But what I meant is he should try to look at things from Exodus' perspective, cause it isn't that weird that Exodus feels the way he does about it.

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Not relating to someone doesn't mean you attack them. DH has mentioned he has had issues with BDD in the past, depression, anxiety and he takes Propecia. Not enough to be on this board? Is this a forum just for cueballs? Ask Admin and see what he says. Fact is he is one the most polite members on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if his BDD is why he's on this forum in the first place and not actual hair loss.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Okay, that probably came out wrong. I haven't seen DH be rude or mean to anyone, I didn't mean that. But what I meant is he should try to look at things from Exodus' perspective, cause it isn't that weird that Exodus feels the way he does about it.

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I wouldn't be surprised if his BDD is why he's on this forum in the first place and not actual hair loss.

It's not so much what Exodus feels that's the problem at all. It's the lashing out.

This could be possible obviously about DH but I think he has seen doctors and is taking Propecia. I presume they took this all this into account and noted he did have male pattern baldness.

This section will always be very emotional, heated at times, that's not the problem. But there is a limit I feel.

 

[Joan]

Okay, that probably came out wrong. I haven't seen DH be rude or mean to anyone, I didn't mean that. But what I meant is he should try to look at things from Exodus' perspective, cause it isn't that weird that Exodus feels the way he does about it.

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I think DoctorHouse is respectful of everyone's opinions. True, older men and women whose hair loss didn't start until later in life will never know the devastating effects of baldness at a younger age (I am reminded of that when I look at my son). Be honest, though: Has your hair loss reached the point of being noticeable to strangers? Be truthful. Mine hasn't, and if you're not there yet, we really don't know those devastating effects either. Still, you're supportive of and show empathy to all the guys here (and I'm sure to the women on HerAlopecia, many of whom are probably worse off) and so does DoctorHouse. I will never compare my situation to yours, EvilLocks, because I don't have the right to, and I am sure DoctorHouse knows that it would have been a thousand times worse if he experienced hair loss to the degree that Exodus and others have in their teens and 20s, and I do feel he's only trying to help with his words.

 

[EvilLocks]

Has your hair loss reached the point of being noticeable to strangers? Be truthful. Mine hasn't, and if you're not there yet, we really don't know those devastating effects either.

Yes, my hair loss has reached the point of being noticeable to strangers. How fortunate that your hair loss hasn't, even though you are an older woman. So no you don't really know what it's like for me either, being a 23 year old woman with moderate to severe hair loss already.

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Going severely bald in my late teens and early twenties was absolutely horrifying and yes, I think only guys like Exodus or Captain have a clue of what it's like here.

It may have been even worse for them because I had a good head shape, good height and no disproportionate facial features.

Even pretending that you can relate to what we went through would be quite arrogant. You cannot imagine the pain we had to go through.

Just like I cannot imagine how it would be like if I was stuck in a wheelchair. You have to live it. And some of you never will.

You never will in the sense that, as I see it, you made it. Most of you got out of college with little to no hair loss. I started balding severely when I was still in highschool.

So I think a lot of you here should be infinitely thankful for that at least. You had the chance to develop a strong personality while living a normal youth.

Exodus and I didn't have that chance. And let's not forget that your balding will be way less aggressive and way slower.

With the solutions we have today, you're already saved. While I will be chasing my tail for a while until I don't have any graft left to cover my huge NW6 area.

Thank you, for saying what I was trying to say. They just don't know what it's like to be bald, it's a whole other world when you reach actual baldness. I remember back when I was balding but could still hide it, now I can't anymore and it's absolutely horrifying.

 

[Joan]

With the solutions we have today, you're already saved. .

Finasteride isn't helping my son. A hair transplant is definitely in his future.

 

[EvilLocks]

Finasteride isn't helping my son. A hair transplant is definitely in his future.

I think he was talking about the older guys on here who's hair loss is still minimal, like DH

 

[Joan]

Yes, my hair loss has reached the point of being noticeable to strangers. How fortunate that your hair loss hasn't, even though you are an older woman. So no you don't really know what it's like for me either, being a 23 year old woman with moderate to severe hair loss already.


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I was hoping things at least stabilized for you, and I am sorry to hear they haven't. My hair is really thin, but maybe your part is wider, making it more obvious. I have repeatedly said I'm fortunate and consider older members here to be so also.

 

[EvilLocks]

I was hoping things at least stabilized for you, and I am sorry to hear they haven't. My hair is really thin, but maybe your part is wider, making it more obvious. I have repeatedly said I'm fortunate and consider older members here to be so also.

Yeah my part is getting reaaally wide But the worst part is my sides, barely any hair left there! It's so hard to hide, even with lots of Toppik. So depressing.

 

[Dench57]

So working out is all vanity? Being healthy is vanity? Why does everyone think working out = roid rage?

Working out is anything from running to tennis.

HH Im sure you yourself have bitched about fat people.

You want an attractive, non fat woman right???? Thats NOT vanity? We are all vain. Vanity is a good thing. It means you take pride in yourself and want to be the best. Being conceded is different. People need to learn the difference between things. You cant get something for nothing. Im NOT saying "oh work out and be confident". I simply asked how many guys on here take care of themselves, I mean actually do? Prob not many, yet still whine. HH have you looked into a hair transplant? Is it possible for you

Can't rep this but wish I could. Really agree with your and Wolf Pack's posts in this thread.

In a forum like this, where so much emphasis is placed on appearance and desirability to women, working out and going to the gym should just be a no-brainer. I've done/am doing everything in my power to save my hair but it's not working. And that ****ing sucks, balding sucks and I would say it is only behind your face in what most important aspect of your appearance and desirability. And sometimes I do come on here and b**ch about how ****ed up my hairloss is.

It is so awful because I have no control over it. I can't change it. I can't change my face, my imperfect teeth (I may get braces later in life when I have more money), my inability to grow a beard, my slight acne (treating it as best I can). So I have to try and focus on things I can change. Like my body. My clothing. If I really want it, if anyone wants it and works hard, they can have a nice physique which WILL improve your appearance and desirability. Of course hair is more important. I'd rather be a skinny NW1 than a ripped NW5, all of us would. But it's out of my control. You're not going to suddenly be Jason Statham if you start working out. But I figure it's better to be balding and have a nice physique than balding and skinny or fat, that is not up for debate. For me personally, having a tan makes me a lot more attractive too (I have pasty, celtic skin in the endless grey cloudiness of the UK) so I try and get one each summer (I could never bring myself to use a sunbed). Vanity? Whatever. I'm trying to take back some control that hairloss has taken from me.

I'm tired of all this "all-women-are-shallow-and-mindless", "society is so unfair ****". Yeah it is unfair. And it is superficial. That's life. Balding ****ing sucks more than anything I've ever experienced, it's a lifetime sentence. But I'm trying my hardest to not sit in my bedroom, trawling hairloss forums, feeling sorry for myself and complaining about getting rejected by women, not being respected by society, when I could actually be doing something to improve my appearance. Yeah it's superficial, it's shallow, but that's the world we live in and I'm trying to do everything I can to improve my chances.

 

[FWIW]

Yeah my part is getting reaaally wide But the worst part is my sides, barely any hair left there! It's so hard to hide, even with lots of Toppik. So depressing.

You are a woman, why dont you get a hairpiece. There is no stigma about women wearing one.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Regroup my comrades. We have all been demoralized/diminished by hair loss. Directly and even indirectly impacted. The spectrum of life- loss is wide and far reaching. All of us here have been touched by it. Many scarred, one too many lives destroyed. Like war, it is traditionally the youngest front-liner draftees (kids) who experience fullest some of the most devastating blows of this hellish war. Let's focus on better strategies to cope or manage this toxic campaign already and perhaps gain a little strength and relief with the solid fact that we have strong, allies across the ranks, continuously watching our backs.

 

[Saurabhaj]

You are absolutely Right Fred...get the hairline and dont worry for vertex region...

 

[Dench57]

I already get women without working out. So I don't see what would be the benefits of working out

Good for you. But what about people who don't work out and don't get women? Like you said in another thread:

"The truth is that appearances matter the most. Improve the way you look and you'll see the quality of your life improve a lot overall."

Surely that applies to improving your physique, which after your face, hair etc. is an important feature of your appearance? Improve your physique, your style in clothes, styling your facial hair/getting a tan whatever - all things in your control that will improve your appearance and thus improve your quality of life. Maybe not much, and certainly not as much as your hair would....but it's still an improvement nonetheless.

 

[xetudor]

There are woman that prefer the skinny guy over the muscular guy. As long as you're not overweight, I think it's just a matter of preference. You can turn off some women by being the gym guy that cares so much about his muscles. Maybe we need some scientific studies on this one. Fat is certainly a turn off but that's obvious.

 

[Dench57]

There are woman that prefer the skinny guy over the muscular guy. As long as you're not overweight, I think it's just a matter of preference. You can turn off some women by being the gym guy that cares so much about his muscles. Maybe we need some scientific studies on this one. Fat is certainly a turn off but that's obvious.

I would say in the overwhelming majority of cases, a woman would prefer a toned, muscular guy rather than a skinny or fat guy. And that's something we can all achieve to an extent. If you don't want to, that's fine, but don't complain about getting rejected by women if you aren't willing to put the work into your appearance.

And I'm not talking about "gym-freak", bulging veins and steroid muscles level of physique by the way, I think that looks retarded and I know a lot of women do too. I just mean a good frame, abs etc.

 

[Joan]

You are a woman, why dont you get a hairpiece. There is no stigma about women wearing one.

I think she's trying to get away with her own hair as long as possible because a wig or topper will be uncomfortable and expensive if it's a good one. I don't blame her. I'd rather have thin hair than fake hair. Once I see scalp, though, it's game over.

 

[EvilLocks]

I think she's trying to get away with her own hair as long as possible because a wig or topper will be uncomfortable and expensive if it's a good one. I don't blame her. I'd rather have thin hair than fake hair. Once I see scalp, though, it's game over.

Correct. its not gonna be long before ill have to wear hair though. but like you said i'm trying to get life out of my own hair as long as possible even if it looks thin.

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Btw fred, that guy looks ridiculous. not attractive at all, just looks weird with that huge body with that face. i think you are right in your women theories, and take that to heart because this is coming from a woman.

 

[Dench57]

Is it still an improvement nonetheless? I don't think so.

So if we post 3 photos of that guy, one with him sickly skinny, one with him obesely fat, and a last one with him like he is there, you don't think the last one would be an improvement on the previous two? You don't think that in lets say a survey of 1000 women, more of them would find him attractive in the last photo than in the previous two? Although that guy is way overboard I think and it is too much. But we can all cherry pick examples to suit our agenda, I still think you've got a better chance with a better physique.

Your face matters the most. The rest is just painting a pig, and women will see it that way too. Overcompensation.

Of course your face matters the most. And your hair. I've said that in my previous posts, there's no question about that. And maybe it is "painting a pig" as you say, but it is STILL better than doing nothing.