How to deal with side effects from Propecia

Ende

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Well, point her to propeciahelp.com and tell her that you'll keep her responsible if something happens. She has no clue what she's talking about. Your peace of mind should be reason enough to do the test, btw.
 

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^yes i know man. As someone said on a finasteride review page it's a "double edged sword" when it comes to using finasteride.

On finasteride, you'll look more attractive, but the attractiveness was to get sex...but one sacrifices that for the looks.

Without finasteride, you could have sex...only if you had the attractiveness.

Yes I know money can substitute that. It's not always easy to achieve all sorts of high goals to achieve lots of cash especially with the competition over college degrees, jobs and such.

As I don't care at all about having real sex (i see masturbating the same or better) one would wonder why would i go on finasteride. See, having thin hair not only gives me a problem when it comes to how people/girls see me. It also lowers my self esteem and makes me feel bad. I like looking in the mirror seeing an attractive person...so I had reason to use finasteride then. I just never knew that the sides I have were sides of finasteride...if you get what I mean. I didn't know clear semen was a side effect. I did pretty much know not being able to hold piss in for that long was, only it didn't bother me enough that i should go off the drug and let my hair suffer.

Agreed with your post Enden. However apparently I need her permission...and...well...we all know how the professional medical field and online boards/sufferers out there never went hand in hand...
 

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monty1978 said:
they came back for a bit the a.m erections and with all the other normal dht level related stuff like having energy and not feeling like an anxious women on her period I thought I was on a slow road to recovery. No such luck. Things have nose dived again. the morning erection have gone again and more worryingly my balls very rarely hang anymore and I only feel the desire for sex every couple of weeks. could it possibly be the fluridil?
I don't have any experience with fluridil. Avodart is most likely to blame. Anyway, I'll keep you updated on my progress. There is nothing more for me to do, than wait and see the result.
 

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Damn monty, you don't know how close I've been already :) Anyway, no worries, besides there are no other solutions to the problem, the way I see it. If you're considering TRT, forget clomid. Only use hCG in addition, if you care about testicle atrophy. Don't use anymore than 125 mg Telogen Effluvium/C every week, and 250 i.u. hCG twice a week, and believe me, there will be a storm of lawsuits if noone finds a solution to the problem.
 

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monty1978 said:
Another thing. After ejaculation I get a mild stabbing pain in the bollocks. What the hell is that all about?

I HATE finasteride AND DUTS AND I AM A TWAT FOR TAKING THEM
That is a symptom of chronic prostatitis, believe it or not.
 

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What about one of the ED drugs, like Cialis. That works for me- very, very well. Obviously, I hope I won't need it in the future. Did it not work for you?
 

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Blood pressure within the gland, definately amplifies arousal. But it's good news monty, if you're able to have erections with PDE-5 inhibitors. Your testosterone/estrogen ratio can't be that bad. Bad T/E ratio = no libido = PDE-5 inhibitors doesn't work. Do you have morning erections without cialis? How much are you using? Are the erections rigid, btw?
 

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neuromet said:
What about one of the ED drugs, like Cialis. That works for me- very, very well. Obviously, I hope I won't need it in the future. Did it not work for you?
I've tried cialis (2.5, 5, 10 and 20 mg) and 100 mg v****. It didn't work for me, because of the hormone levels, as I've explained. All of them gave me an annoying vision side effect. When I moved the sight from one side to another, it wasn't smooth perception, but more like watching a movie picture with missing frames. Traffic lights for instance, would have a tail if I moved the sight fast enough. - like the effect which was available for the mouse cursor on early windows computers - if you know what I'm talking about. All prescribed by doctors, and obtained at the pharmacy, so the pills were definately legit.
 

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Have you checked your hormone levels? If the estrogen level isn't hitting your sweet spot, whether is too high or too low, it'll cause reduced libido and ED. Prolactin... let me say that it has A LOT to do with spontanous sexual thoughts, arousal and pleasure during orgasm... in a negative way. It supresses dopamin which is essential for sexual function. Estrogen raises the prolactin level.
 

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Probably. I don't know about extacy, but coke affects dopamine, and it's known to enhance sexual pleasure.
 

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I suggest you use dostinex (cabergoline) if you're going the dopamine route. Prolactin supresses dopamine, and cabergoline lowers the prolactin level. Increased libido is a common side effect of dostinex in both men and women.
 

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i suggest you dont do anything until you consult with a compedent doctor. You may f*** yourself even further.
 

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barcafan said:
i suggest you dont do anything until you consult with a compedent doctor. You may f*ck yourself even further.
Not with cabergoline. Too low prolactin level (according to the range) doesn't seem to affect anything, in a negative way. 0.25 mg twice a week, will do the job within a month, if prolactin is in normal range. However, checking your hormone levels before doing anytning is a good advice, but don't waste your time with doctors. They're not going to help you with damage caused by finasteride, as long as your hormone levels are in range, and you don't have any baseline values.

It's available through assetchemist.co.uk / hwprescriptionservice.com. Just state that you've been using finasteride, and that you've done a blood test recently due to side effects - which revealed high estrogen level, and a prolactin level which was slightly above the range. You need cabergoline to deal with it, and you're not going to use more than 0.25 mg twice a week.
 

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Enden, which brand should I go for and what quantity? 1 mg Cabergoline or Dostinex?

Thanks
 

Ende

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I recommend that you do a blood test before using anything, but as I've said, too low prolactin level will not hurt you, as far as I know.

I've used Dostinex myself, but generics will do, as long as you're able to divide the pills properly. Dostinex pills are 0.5 mg, and they're easy to cut in half. You shouldn't use anymore than 0.25 mg twice a week, for a month. One package of Dostinex contains 8 pills, which is more than enough for your experiment.
 

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Ok possible new side effect. Happened twice in two weeks. I'm not one for enjoying typing too much information but here we go: dry orgasm.

No ejaculate at all. I have had regular ejaculation, but then I've had two days in the past two weeks where everything was fine but then at the point of orgasm there was no ejaculate.

Could this be it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_ejaculation

It might be related to the 1.25mg Fincar, I'm not sure. I did take a Benadryll last night before I went to sleep because I was having some allergy problems. That stuff also knocks me out, maybe the sluggishness had something to do with it.

Still, very weird.
 

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I've removed information about my own treatment. A lot is going on with the project right now, and I'll come back to it later. Information on how to deal with reduced libido and erectile dysfunction has been updated according to how we've been dealing with this lately. Arimidex is a very potent drug which demands monitoring by a professional. Zinc is effective, easy to manage, and available OTC.

Recovery with zinc should be possible while using finasteride, but it'll be easier if they quit the drug. It should therefore be our recommendation from now on. They could try finasteride again later - when they have recovered, but zinc must be used in addition, to manage the estrogen level.
 

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New information about creatine monohydrate.
 

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RESULTS: After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).
Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players.
 
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