Htcels: How Are You Coping With Your Sub Nw1ness?

EvilLocks

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Many times it's a lifestyle problem with western women. Most girls will be at least cute or pretty at 18 providing they've had good nutrition and a disciplined home life. The problem arises when they leave home for university/college and start binging on booze, smoking, staying up until 3am and chomping on kebabs and cheesy chips in lieu of mum and dad to cook their meals.

I've seen head scarfed girls well into their 20s with flawless skin. Also not overweight.

The biggest advantage a beautiful 18 year old girl has over a beautiful 28 year old girl is more potential years of child rearing.
Agree with everything in this post.
 

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Very few will have the perfect skin or body of the typical 18 year old.
Sure, _very_ few women who are 30+ will have perfect skin/body like a typical 18 year-old, but I have seen quite a few women in their mid to late 20's who still look great, as long as they take care of themselves, of course.
Aging is a complex process that depends on several factors:
1. Genetics - will determine your general skin quality, body type, hair, how long you keep your ''cuteness'' and innocent look etc. Some women look hardened at 23 already while others are still cute at 27+
2. Lifestyle - this is where a lot of women fail. Like someone said, they go on the college partying carousel and late night kebab which will take a toll on anyone's looks but especially when you are no longer in your teens and your metabolism isn't as high anymore.
3. Skincare - does not have as big of an impact on looks as genetics + lifestyle, but is important nevertheless. Staying out of sun, anti aging etc. will help.
If a woman can check all 3 boxes she's set for a number of years. Unfortunately many women let themselves go way too early.
 

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Obvious sluthater / lookist.

Whether you'll look like a creep or not when bald depends on a lot of different variables.

Factors that reduce creepiness: being tall, muscular, growing beard, buzzing your hair, facial symmetry, masculine face, round head shape, being tanned (yes), being old, etc.

Factors that increase creepiness: being short, pudgy or skinny, having a messy horseshoe with a combover, feminine face, irregular head shape, sporting a clean-shaved face (giant light bulb with no definition at all), being pale, being young, ears that stick out etc.

It's a case by case assessment really. It's quite stupid to lump all balding guys together.

There's a difference between being this bald guy:

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And this one:

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This is so depressing. I'm totally beyond screwed once I'm bald. New plan is try duta if my hair gets worse otherwise wear a hair piece. I have all the "creepy " features for bald. Not only did it have to happen young to me , but I was also not blessed with any features to pull off the bald look.
 

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I am just over 30, my gf was 19 and recently turned 20, 9/10. I used to think younger girls would hate older guys when I was a teen but it turns out it's not the case. If these type of girls liked you in your youth they'll like you as a man as long as you retain looks - i'm talking about true attraction and not based on career package or anything. Of course there's a limit for everything and at some point in 40s it will change. Being a good looking man between 35-40 is best as you can attract women of all ages, endless choices, something the girls know and notice, regardless of how hot they are. I look younger than my age for sure but that's not the reason for this.

I'd say my favourite age range for a while has been 25-30. A hot girl in this category has that slightly mature/elegant look but still very much in her prime. Her dressing a certain way can show status.
I wonder what your gf looks like :p I imagine her to be model pretty :)
 

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What younger women <25 have over >25 women no matter how good or bad they look, is the number of child bearing years. It's only natural, men are not only visual but also genetically programmed to seek the most fertile women. Even though some 28 year-old women look better than some 18 year-old women, the 18 year-old still has more healthy child bearing years ahead of her.
As for myself I'm constantly told I look younger than 24 (almost 25), something I appreciate very much! However, my biological clock is ticking already, so starting a family before the age of 30 is important to me. There are many women of course who produce healthy children after 30 or even 35, but I don't want to put my future kids at risk for birth defects, it's enough with the bad balding gene probably! :p
 

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What younger women <25 have over >25 women no matter how good or bad they look, is the number of child bearing years. It's only natural, men are not only visual but also genetically programmed to seek the most fertile women. Even though some 28 year-old women look better than some 18 year-old women, the 18 year-old still has more healthy child bearing years ahead of her.
As for myself I'm constantly told I look younger than 24 (almost 25), something I appreciate very much! However, my biological clock is ticking already, so starting a family before the age of 30 is important to me. There are many women of course who produce healthy children after 30 or even 35, but I don't want to put my future kids at risk for birth defects, it's enough with the bad balding gene probably! :p
Don´t wait too long or you will give a birth to a new Dante.
 

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Maybe @EvilLocks can chime in on this. We all know looks are crucial, but what about the guy's status? Is that completely irrelevant, or will it increase your attraction towards him? I think it's safe to assume that we all know the answer to that question.
I think it depends on the woman what level of importance status has to her, but it's also innate in women to want to be protected and taken care of, hence why a man's status can have varying degrees of importance to her.
My boyfriend works at a grocery store and I love him regardless, but would I find it extra exciting if he was a CEO at a big company instead? Probably. To me status is less important but I would not say it's not important at all. My criteria for a man's status is that he can support himself and a future family and has steady income, so what exactly he does for a living is not crucial.
What is important to me is attraction and compatibility, both of which I have with my boyfriend. He makes a regular income and supports himself, so that is good enough for me!
 

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I've always preferred women in their 30s and 40s, even when I was young. I also have deep-seated mommy issues. Don't @ me.
 

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Well, the current CEO of my company started his career in a small grocery store, so who knows ;).

My point is, saying that the extra excitement and attraction his partner would feel towards him is "not real" is misguided.

In my experience, and in the experience of many men who manage to improve their status, it is real: the admiration, the respect, the increased submissiveness, her basically getting wetter and being more all over you because of it...

That's why I don't get the argument "yeah but that's not true attraction if it's not based on something I can see with my own eyes", even though I was still defending it like a few months ago :p.

RIP WhitePolarBear of March 2017.
You are constantly learning and shifting your attitudes.
You also have no shame in admitting that you may have been a bit hasty with prior opinions.

I like that about you.
 

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It's partly (even if it's 5%) his fault, you can't absolve him of all responsibility.

In an alternate universe, there's a @Dante92 who is not as bitter and lives a better life overall.

You could still become that person Dante, you're young, start by assuming that you could do something to make things better instead of making them worse.

Assuming that the whole world is not against you would be a good start.
No one can know for sure because Dante was never given a chance. Do you think if Dante had decent looks with social life, would he still be like the one we know ?
 

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I remembered you were as well before :p It's a good combination as the eyes contrast the hair. I don't really like very blonde girls as you can't appreciate the detail of the face in the same way. But really anything goes if hot!
That's true :) One ''good'' thing about being bald is that I can switch up my hair color and length as I please, without damaging my own hair. I have above boob length light brown to honey blonde now, but I will change it as I get bored.
 

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That's a great question.

One thing is for sure, I could have become pretty much like @Dante92 .

If the tragedies in my life and my psychological problems had just done me in.

What if I didn't bust my *** off to fight my hair loss, my depression, my anxiety, my borderline psychosis, what if I hadn't fixed the pair of boobs I had to deal with on top of those things, what if didn't look into FUE megasessions, what if I hadn't fixed my social anxiety, what if I hadn't forced myself to ask girls out, etc.

I could be in hell right now. And I believe Dante is in hell. But he has to realize that there is a way out and that things can definitely get better for him if he does what it takes, now what it is, he has to figure out for himself.
People like you and me have it easier than Dante. A couple thousands of dollars would make me a slayer by fixing my minor flaws. Your hair transplant (A wise decision IMO) was enough to save you from a lot of suffering and loneliness. Dante needs to completely transform, or to be someone else to better his position. You suffered a lot, i won't doubt it. I also suffer a lot, but it's incomparable to Dante's suffering and pain. I can't give him an advice when i'm not living his life or pain, it would be Inappropriate and illogical. I know that you're trying to help him, but it's just useless TBH. Just accept him as he's, focus on his good qualities, he has dozens of them.
 

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That's a great question.

One thing is for sure, I could have become pretty much like @Dante92 .

If the tragedies in my life and my psychological problems had just done me in.

What if I didn't bust my *** off to fight my hair loss, my depression, my anxiety, my borderline psychosis, what if I hadn't fixed the pair of boobs I had to deal with on top of those things, what if didn't look into FUE megasessions, what if I hadn't fixed my social anxiety, what if I hadn't forced myself to ask girls out, etc.

I could be in hell right now. And I believe Dante is in hell. But he has to realize that there is a way out and that things can definitely get better for him if he does what it takes, now what it is, he has to figure out for himself.

Without being judgemental at all, and only with good intentions - I too believe Dante *can* have it better/improve from where he is atm in life. This stems from the fact that nobody, ever hits their max potential. This is just pure fact. The only difference is in which category one chooses to pursue ones potential (looks is just one aspect of life).

However, the biggest factor which determines his ability to improve (note - not potential) is the financial aspect. All kinds of surgeries/therapies cost an immense amount of money for the average Joe, and therefore it isn't realistic at all for most people. Even if it's doable with loans of any kind, it'll still be a huge gamble with life/future.

Anyway, I know how such comments as this one can come off as rude or ignorant, but I really do hope that Dante himself, and all others in similar place, find a safe haven in which their soul can flourish, and that they discover the means to meet their goal. Genetics are out of our reach, but we're getting closer to be able to fight *some* things, and I believe Dante's got the most important thing locked down: intelligence.

Btw, I really respect you for your persistence and realism. I do think and hope that you have already lived the hardest part(s) of your life. Probably in future you'll face way lesser challenges requiring great show of character and mental strength. Anyway, you'll be way better prepared knowing your victorian personality.

Cheers
 

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Why do you assume that my empathy is fake? It's real Dante, now you can believe me or not, it's up to you.

It's not just about attitude, there are micro-adjustments you can make in your life to make it better, despite your terrible looks (OK I'm going to believe you without proof).

It can always be better, but it can also be much worse, and yes I do think that your attitude is making it worse.
If i were Dante, i would move to a more calm, nice country like Iceland. Adopt a kid, buy a dog, live in a quiet isolated area with only few people around and spend my time meditating in nature (Iceland has an exceptionally beautiful nature). But i'm just weird, i don't know if a lot of people would like this lifestyle.

Nature in Iceland.
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As long as they aren't silent which is the worst I don't care too much if they are pretty clueless, their bodies are much nicer and their inexperience is a massive turn on. Any girl above 20ish has begun to physically degrade.
Yep it's true, they are at their peak of beauty 16-19ish, it's why the modeling industry loves that age.
 
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