Htcels: How Are You Coping With Your Sub Nw1ness?

[nahte42]

Ummm...Incase you don't know, I am one of the most positive, upbeat, blue-pilled members on here.
I'm always accused of being too optimistic about the world and not red-pilled enough.
Some of the lesser educated on members here call that the position of a "cuck." Go figure...

Anyway, I think you have me confused with someone else.
Good luck in space.

Bye!

Don't know anything about ya... just responding to the classic "keep dreaming" type of message.

Yep, I'm dreaming...for now...
All respect to you mate

 

[blackg]

Don't know anything about ya... just responding to the classic "keep dreaming" type of message.

Yep, I'm dreaming...for now...
All respect to you mate

I like your spunk! We're going to have fun together on here.

 

[nahte42]

I like your spunk! We're going to have fun together on here.

Lol...I have no idea how long I'll be on here

 

[Janko]

That was mean.

I did not meant it as an insult. Just as fun. If Dante took it personally then sorry.

 

[countjulian]

Ummm...Incase you don't know, I am one of the most positive, upbeat, blue-pilled members on here.
I'm always accused of being too optimistic about the world and not red-pilled enough.
Some of the lesser educated members on here call that the position of a "cuck." Go figure...

Anyway, I think you have me confused with someone else.
Good luck in space.

Bye!

What is your Norwood BTW blackg?

 

[IdealForehead]

This thread is f*****g hilarious.

Incel culture is taking over every corner of the Internet.

Everywhere I go I get the same content.

Maybe I need to start hanging out on Chad forums. Like what? Lumberjack forums?

Even if I don't belong, at least it will be a change.

 

[Xander94]

Slayers.net don't listen to them @Dante92 normies don't care they just have fake empathy

 

[EvilLocks]

I believe Dante's got the most important thing locked down: intelligence.

Average intelligence + above average looks > above average intelligence + below average looks

An intelligent but unattractive person would be below an attractive person in the eyes of society regardless, unless they were a completely retard of course. You'd have to be a genius for intelligence to make a real difference, but even someone with genius level intelligence would probably not be a pantie dropper - unless they were also attractive, of course.

Intelligence might get you ahead in your professional life at best, which is better than nothing of course, but is it going to provide you real genuine happiness and quality of life? Which is what we're all after, I guess. So no, I would not say intelligence is the most important, some people are also too intelligent for their own good.

However, I do agree with the fact that Dante should use what he has to improve his life. I just don't think that being intelligent will magically give him the life he wants, although it might improve parts of it.

 

[Stanx22]

Average intelligence + above average looks > above average intelligence + below average looks

An intelligent but unattractive person would be below an attractive person in the eyes of society regardless, unless they were a completely retard of course. You'd have to be a genius for intelligence to make a real difference, but even someone with genius level intelligence would probably not be a pantie dropper - unless they were also attractive, of course.

Intelligence might get you ahead in your professional life at best, which is better than nothing of course, but is it going to provide you real genuine happiness and quality of life? Which is what we're all after, I guess. So no, I would not say intelligence is the most important, some people are also too intelligent for their own good.

However, I do agree with the fact that Dante should use what he has to improve his life. I just don't think that being intelligent will magically give him the life he wants, although it might improve parts of it.

Intelligence is worthless. I'd choose be a literal retarded if i'm going to be a tall, full-head forever after then.

 

[Stanx22]

Average intelligence would have been a curse for me, and its importance shouldn't be underestimated.

Average means having an IQ of 100 in the West. With that IQ, all you'll be able to do is finishing high school.

You'll probably never be a manager either, you'll be stuck in a simple low-responsibility job for the rest of your life.

Your life will never be that interesting either and you'll suck at managing your life problems and your life will be more likely to be a mess overall.

Life is just much, much easier when you have a well above average IQ. I don't think being highly intelligent would be necessarily bad for someone, I think it's more about personality traits (neuroticism, introversion) which are largely genetic too.

People who have an above average IQ tend to underestimate how fortunate they are, or I suspect that like the vast majority of the population, they don't know much about IQ research and think that they got where they are through hard work.

So in either case (average looks or average intelligence), you get big downsides, I would personally hate to have an IQ of 100. The benefits extends far, far beyond your professional life.

Above average IQ is worthless if you don't have looks. What would you do with it ? Be rich ? Be successful ? It's all worthless when you're 24/7 living in loneliness and despair. The 100 IQ chad will have +100 girlfriends, will be popular, will also be rich via modeling for example, so he doesn't even need intelligence. Intelligence may seem good for some people because they want to develop society and serve humanity, but who even gives a f*** about society or humanity.

 

[EvilLocks]

Life is just much, much easier when you have a well above average IQ.

Yes, if it is also combined with at least above average looks.

 

[EvilLocks]

To put it on the spot, do you think this man has felt genuine happiness in his life?

It's a bit out there I know, but I think you get my point.

 

[Janko]

You're delusional here Dante, what about your employer? They don't care about your intelligence and your talents (or skills)?

How can being more intelligence make you more insecure and unhappy?

Intelligent people are better at managing their lives in general, so they're more likely to be happy.

So yeah, maybe it's your looks that are mostly holding you back then.

But please, saying you're too intelligent for your own sake is like people who say that they're too good-looking.

Be grateful for some of your blessings.

Once again I must step up for Dante. Fred, have you been in Milano? I´ve spent there two months. And I must admit, that it is city focused on beauty. Even low paid people are well dressed and stylish. But whenever I was on some event I felt like that beauty is good and ugliness is almost a crime. I would name it the capital of successful young beautiful people. However I would really like to know dantes height. I must objectively say, that people in Milano were much smaller then in Central Europe area, so maybe dante is not in the desperate part of height. I think, that for Dante would be best to leave Milano and move to another part of Italy and try to improve himself.

 

[Janko]

My best friend and I wanted to go there next month but we've decided for Rome in January.

I was curious to see how superficial the culture would be there though, but I wouldn't know what to do in Milano.

You're right, if it's such a toxic culture towards ugly people and he's not accepted there, he should move out, and I believe he already did.

Milano is incredible an beautiful city, wonderful architecture, great food and awesome stylish clothes. Great to visit. Not so sure for living. At first I found the people really nice. However I was shocked what were people capable of telling about each other. Disgust shown on people from lower part of society. It is really toxic and false culture. Don´t know if it is like that in the rest of Italy though.
About your visit. Roma. Ah, Roma. Consider also visiting other parts of Italy like Firenze (whole Tuscany is awesome), Venezia etc. One of my greatest memory was seeing Don Giovanni in Verona. Not sure if I don´t like it so much only because of my ancestors from Italy , but still, northern Italy is one of the best places on Earth. A pitty I got the feel it is kind of collapsing.

 

[EvilLocks]

It seems you don't know much about his personal life. I suggest you watch the movie "The Theory of Everything" to find out.

No I don't, and maybe it was a bad example but the point still stands. Good looks and good health is the key to happiness in most cases, intelligence is an advantage of course, but only if it is combined with average+ looks (like I said)
I take it you're quite intelligent, but ask yourself this - would your life be as good as it is today if you only had your intelligence to lean on, and not your above average looks? I get it, you're not male model material and you've had to really work your way up (which I respect), but you are certainly average or even above average in looks, and you must not forget that this is what has led you to living a fulfilling life today, not only your intelligence. That is not to say truly unattractive people should not strive to be better, but you have to be realistic about your expectations. Below average looks means below average life in many cases.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Average intelligence would have been a curse for me, and its importance shouldn't be underestimated.

Average means having an IQ of 100 in the West. With that IQ, all you'll be able to do is finishing high school.

You'll probably never be a manager either, you'll be stuck in a simple low-responsibility job for the rest of your life.

Your life will never be that interesting either and you'll suck at managing your life problems and your life will be more likely to be a mess overall.

Life is just much, much easier when you have a well above average IQ. I don't think being highly intelligent would be necessarily bad for someone, I think it's more about personality traits (neuroticism, introversion) which are largely genetic too.

People who have an above average IQ tend to underestimate how fortunate they are, or I suspect that like the vast majority of the population, they don't know much about IQ research and think that they got where they are through hard work.

So in either case (average looks or average intelligence), you get big downsides, I would personally hate to have an IQ of 100. The benefits extends far, far beyond your professional life.

People love to quote statistics on how tall males do much better in life, yet IQ is one of the biggest determinations of success in life based on a huge amount of studies.

On the other hand, being an ugly male is still likely to leave you unhappy with life. As intelligence is likely to do little to help you with women in this case.

When I was a virgin I hated hearing this, but it's true, women aren't everything. And there are ugly men who are happy doing other things. This is not to say that everyone is capable of this, just that it's possible.

 

[blackg]

People who have an above average IQ tend to underestimate how fortunate they are, or I suspect that like the vast majority of the population, they don't know much about IQ research and think that they got where they are through hard work.

Yeah, I have seen this in action. It's amazing how these high IQ types are still capable of self delusion.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Yeah, I have seen this in action. It's amazing how these high IQ types are still capable of self delusion.

Just look at how many intelligent people still believe in god.

Self delusion is so rampant, I know I must do it myself, which is a scary thought. What am I deluding myself about just to make myself feel better?

 

[blackg]

Italian culture is based on looks, appearance over substance and superficiality, about using, deceiving, and discarding other people or simply ruining their lives, sometimes just for the heck of it. Milan is the rotten, decayed heart of my rotten, decayed country. It's collapsing, and I hope most Italians will get dragged to hell with it.

Yet the whole country it is held in high esteem as some kind of "cultural utopia" by guilt ridden, culturally anxious Westerners.

Meh...

Give me a cheeseburger, a beer and a football game surrounded by down to earth folks any day.

Your snob "culture" blows!

 

[RegenWaiting]

Average intelligence + above average looks > above average intelligence + below average looks

An intelligent but unattractive person would be below an attractive person in the eyes of society regardless, unless they were a completely retard of course. You'd have to be a genius for intelligence to make a real difference, but even someone with genius level intelligence would probably not be a pantie dropper - unless they were also attractive, of course.

Intelligence might get you ahead in your professional life at best, which is better than nothing of course, but is it going to provide you real genuine happiness and quality of life? Which is what we're all after, I guess. So no, I would not say intelligence is the most important, some people are also too intelligent for their own good.

However, I do agree with the fact that Dante should use what he has to improve his life. I just don't think that being intelligent will magically give him the life he wants, although it might improve parts of it.

I'll just respond to your comment although I'm aware of other posts in the same 'debate'. Have not read them all though(so I may be repetitive).

I think you have made a very good point about aesthetic value vs IQ, and it made me realize why it started a very complicated and multifactored debate which is highly subjective and point-of-view dependant.

Despite it's highly correlational impact on one another I'd still choose to divide your ''equated issue'' in two sub-cathegories: 1)Your external(societal) value and it's impact, and the impact of your 2)Internal subjective POV

External:
Maybe it's already been mentioned, but there are some very crucial ''variables'' in your equation that will affect whether it's true or not in my humble opinion. Here I will list a few that come to mind right away in no particular order:
- Culture and religion (yeah I choose to put them in the same ''basket'' xD)
- Age
- Time in history
- Male/Female
- Finance
- Looks/IQ ratio
- Supply/Demand ratio
- Unpredictable variables

Without quoting any studies or something, I'm sure we'll all agree there are huge cultural differences in placing importancy on looks, something which can (to an extent) also be seen on geographical representativeness on this (sub)forum. In more conservative societies other things are far more important f.ex.
Age;Whether or not your 20 or 60, it's definitely not the same qualities which emphasis is placed upon (desirebility etc).
Time in history: Today one can work hard and earn a better-looking nose, ears etc. This was not possible a century ago. Also, this factor in combo with geographical (things change->feminism) and other factors gives another X.
Male/Female; Clearly this is a huge variable, especially in combo with where, when and what age gives many, many outcomes.
Finance: Do you have a chance of earning yourself a better mane? Inheritence, contacts etc.
Looks/IQ ratio: Somethimes extreme looks will be enough so that you don't need brains, but a slightly less good looks will demand some career planning etc making the right decisions. (compesation). Likewise: Extreme IQ may give you the life of Warren Buffet.
Supply/Demand: Imagine 3rd world war where 30% of men die in battle. I can (just kiddin, but you get the point) - also often combined with other variables such as politics (China's one baby-rule) how sorry am I not for those poor bastard of males
Unpredictable variables

Internal:
Mostly how external(objective) factors impact your mentality dependable on genetic traits such as personality and IQ.

Personally I'd rather choose to suffer reality over an comfortable fantasy. Harsh truth><comfy lie? Here's where IQ comes into play (with other personality factors). If you are born with an above average IQ, it could give you access to incredible tools which you could use to bend the reality to your will if enough energy is put in. It may give you an edge in realising your current situation and it's seriousness in an objective way, and to really be able to dig out of the pit(solve the problem) you must first identify it. Lower IQ beings' only answer would be a prayer (which is fine btw) because they themselves can't do anything about it. We're all different.

But, lower IQ may also be ones saviour. Have you never fantasized about how great it would be if you didn't know all the dangers of ''eating junk food'', ''traveling to western crowded places'' and all of the information which in turn may make you an hypochondriac? But would you give up this knowledge tomorrow just to be able to enjoy life fully? Great knowledge->great burden in most cases. Not all, though (Che Guevara choose to smoke although a doctor and asthmatic).

Anyway - My original post's intent was not motivational(side effect)...it was more observational. Dante's got such a great combo of neurons and synapses inside of his scull I doubt he wont find a way in the end. I do however wish Dante all the best, and one last thing;

It would be interesting to see what kind of respect Dante would get if we all met in the real world, given the past experiences on the forum. I have atleast asked myself this...

Sorry for the longest post