I Don't Know If I Should Be Pissed Or Grateful

[Baldingat188]

That's exactly how I feel. Except I'm not even average. So then it's easy. You don't have that much to worry about when the risk of the alternative is suicide.

Makes the risk/benefit analysis of aggressive treatment much easier to work through.

Ie. Is this medication likely to be worse than a gunshot to my head? Nope? Okay then.

If you aren't average wouldn't you feel you have less to lose? Idk I feel maybe the fall wouldn't be as high . No offense just wondering. I'm not average when you factor in my Manlet height but I look ok with hair but bald I look legitimate 2/10 and that's not bdd talking. I have weird baby face type thing going.

 

[countjulian]

Actually true. This is basically my justification for meds and why I will probably try duta at some point.

I will say though not being able to get it up is extremely upsetting. My first week on finasteride I got psychological sides and I couldn't get it up. Let's just say I didn't feel like a man any more. In reality I would chose hair over sex. But damn not being able to get it up .... well sh*t it messes with you on more then one level.

Thankfully now my sex drive seems to be good as ever.

You can regulate your T levels with weight lifting, zinc supplements, magnesium supplements, DIM supplements, and DHEA supplements as well as a healthy diet high in protein, thus mitigating the loss of DHT by replacing it with regular T. Stopping the consumption of easy internet p**rn will also likely improve sexual function. Like I once said to Ideal, we should come at the problem as an engineer, not as a child freaking out at the thought of leaving Never Never Land.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Will someone shoot the OP in the head before I do?

@OP no hate brag. I'm just pulling your leg.
Good that you are on treatments. I saw my hair go from what you have to a nearly slick NW5 in a matter of three years.

Just because we're worse off doesn't mean we don't understand your pain. We've been there. Good that finasteride has slowed down your loss. If it stops it in its tracks, count yourself lucky.

And whenever you feel down about being NW2, just check out pics of my head and of @Exodus2011

 

[Baldingat188]

Will someone shoot the OP in the head before I do?

@OP no hate brag. I'm just pulling your leg.
Good that you are on treatments. I saw my hair go from what you have to a nearly slick NW5 in a matter of three years.

Just because we're worse off doesn't mean we don't understand your pain. We've been there. Good that finasteride has slowed down your loss. If it stops it in its tracks, count yourself lucky.

And whenever you feel down about being NW2, just check out pics of my head and of @Exodus2011

Were you on meds when that happened? That's very likely to happen to me to given my extremely poo hair genetics.

I'm not sure if finasteride is working or not. I guess it kind of is since my hair looks pretty much the same as it did a year ago , however diffuse thinning is very hard to measure because my hair always looks better / worse in different lights.

 

[Baldingat188]

I don't mean to disrespect guys with worse hairloss here , obviously it all sucks. Some people handle it some people don't and I'm one of the latter.

However my hairloss might not be terrible yet but I am no davesmith420. That dude has model tier hair with pretty boy chad face ( full homo). If anyone should leave this forum , it's him.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Were you on meds when that happened? That's very likely to happen to me to given my extremely poo hair genetics.

I'm not sure if finasteride is working or not. I guess it kind of is since my hair looks pretty much the same as it did a year ago , however diffuse thinning is very hard to measure because my hair always looks better / worse in different lights.

Two years. Didn't seem to work for me.
Don't ever say you think you have poor genetics, and so as per your idea it won't work. I'll pop out of your screen just to slap you upside the head. Are you a dermatologist? No? Then STFU.

Stay on the meds. finasteride is the best we have. Bear in mind that a lot of people see the full benefit at around 2 years.

 

[IdealForehead]

If you aren't average wouldn't you feel you have less to lose? Idk I feel maybe the fall wouldn't be as high . No offense just wondering. I'm not average when you factor in my Manlet height but I look ok with hair but bald I look legitimate 2/10 and that's not bdd talking. I have weird baby face type thing going.

No. I've been a 1-2/10 before my first jaw surgery. People won't even make or hold proper eye contact when you're that fucked. I'm probably actually 3-4 now and my life has been immensely better post op. The difference was immediately apparent in how people treated me.

I still have ambition to hit a 5-6 facially which I am attempting to accomplish via forehead reduction and then revision jaw surgeries.

If anything my experiences have made me even more terrified of being uglier because I already know what it's like. I can't lie to myself and say it won't matter.

 

[Baldingat188]

No. I've been a 1-2/10 before my first jaw surgery. People won't even make or hold proper eye contact when you're that fucked. I'm probably actually 3-4 now and my life has been immensely better post op. The difference was immediately apparent in how people treated me.

I still have ambition to hit a 5-6 facially which I am attempting to accomplish via forehead reduction and then revision jaw surgeries.

If anything my experiences have made me even more terrified of being uglier because I already know what it's like. I can't lie to myself and say it won't matter.

Damn that's brutal man. I think for me once I'm bald I will go from a 5 to a 2 and I'm not sure how I will be able to handle that. All my life I have wished I was a 7 ... life would be so good.

 

[Exodus2011]

There is possibility why a young balding guy from norwood 2 levels more anxious and facing low confidence than higher Norwood guys:

He is new(not having experience) to handle this hairloss problem than any other Norwood 4/5/6.

theres less anxiety in higher norwoods but much MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH lower confidence in my experience. to the point of insanity and dissociation and EXTREME mind numbing depression

this might be confused for increased confidence for someone with low emotional self awareness however, as you become a different person and one might perceive that as more confidence

 

[razzmatazz91]

theres less anxiety in higher norwoods but much MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH lower confidence in my experience. to the point of insanity and dissociation and EXTREME mind numbing depression

this might be confused for increased confidence for someone with low emotional self awareness however, as you become a different person and one might perceive that as more confidence

That's brutal. And honest.
The anxiety drops once you give up and resign to being in fuckedsville... And knowing you are subhuman and the way people treat you makes you go from a happy young boy to an unfeeling ghost

 

[Runninghair]

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[IdealForehead]

Damn that's brutal man. I think for me once I'm bald I will go from a 5 to a 2 and I'm not sure how I will be able to handle that. All my life I have wished I was a 7 ... life would be so good.

I can't even imagine or have ambition for 7. Thats way out of my range. Though I have other social and intellectual assets that help me function slightly above my level. So I don't know having never been there before but I think a 5-6 would be more than enough and perform probably on par with a 6-7. That's my cope/hope anyway.

I also think my now insanely thick hair is going to halo me like crazy going forward at my age. Not many guys past their early 30s seem to have very impressive heads of hair. I had hair come up in a conversation this week and two guys said they wished they had my hair. I loled internally. If I get a good final hairline out of things and keep it that's a strong halo as you age.

Anyway we can all dream.

Don't go to a 2/10. Seriously I'm getting edgy thinking about what it was like. I don't like thinking about it. You won't like it. I promise you that.

Ever watch Vanilla Sky?

 

[countjulian]

I can't even imagine or have ambition for 7. thats way out of my range. Though I have other social and intellectual assets that help me function slightly above my level. So I don't know having never been there before but I think a 5-6 would be more than enough and perform probably on par with a 6-7. That's my cope/hope anyway.

I also think my now insanely thick hair is going to halo me like crazy going forward at my age. Not many guys past their early 30s seem to have very impressive heads of hair. I had hair come up in a conversation this week and two guys said they wished they had my hair. I loled internally. If I get a good final hairline out of things and keep it that's a strong halo as you age.

Anyway we can all dream.

Don't go to a 2. Seriously I'm getting edgy thinking about what it was like. I don't like thinking about it. You won't like it. I promise you that.

Ever watch Vanilla Sky?

I'm hoping for that too. Nice hair of head and dating 30-40's=cleaning up, not many white, arab or desi guys will be able to offer that at that age.

 

[Erland]

How about some real pictures? So we can properly assess your situation.

 

[countjulian]

wow strong mental illness. Well, cant say I feel bad for you. You deserve it for being such a emotional little wh***.

I'd rather be him than a f*****g a**h** like you broseph.

 

[Baldingat188]

How about some real pictures? So we can properly assess your situation.

My hair was posted on this thread

 

[Baldingat188]

wow strong mental illness. Well, cant say I feel bad for you. You deserve it for being such a emotional little wh***.

Yea I am an emotional pussy. Maybe that's why I don't want to go bald - because I'm not the tough guy

Not everyone can be the tough guy and as long as I have hair that doesn't bother me.

 

[TJ Ford]

Damn that's brutal man. I think for me once I'm bald I will go from a 5 to a 2 and I'm not sure how I will be able to handle that. All my life I have wished I was a 7 ... life would be so good.

So not true, man. You're easily a 7 and going bald won't change that. The biggest critic is yourself.

 

[Baldingat188]

I can't even imagine or have ambition for 7. Thats way out of my range. Though I have other social and intellectual assets that help me function slightly above my level. So I don't know having never been there before but I think a 5-6 would be more than enough and perform probably on par with a 6-7. That's my cope/hope anyway.

I also think my now insanely thick hair is going to halo me like crazy going forward at my age. Not many guys past their early 30s seem to have very impressive heads of hair. I had hair come up in a conversation this week and two guys said they wished they had my hair. I loled internally. If I get a good final hairline out of things and keep it that's a strong halo as you age.

Anyway we can all dream.

Don't go to a 2/10. Seriously I'm getting edgy thinking about what it was like. I don't like thinking about it. You won't like it. I promise you that.

Ever watch Vanilla Sky?

How did you get insanely thick hair?

And trust me I don't want to go 2/10 but that is what I will be without hair. If I go bald I will try to go the hair piece route but that's basically sentencing yourself to a life of misery. But it's either that or just gving up on life completely . Idk , for me hair is everything. Gonna hope the meds / cure cope comes through.

 

[countjulian]

How did you get insanely thick hair?

And trust me I don't want to go 2/10 but that is what I will be without hair. If I go bald I will try to go the hair piece route but that's basically sentencing yourself to a life of misery. But it's either that or just gving up on life completely . Idk , for me hair is everything. Gonna hope the meds / cure cope comes through.

Tons of research, possible weaponized autism (I say this with love lol), and using darolutomide, an anti-androgen currently in FDA testing for use as a prostate cancer treatment of last resort, AKA the most powerful anti-androgen currently in existence. Also he used tranny drugs for a while. The man doesn't f*** around.