I know 11 men who are NW3 or worse and...

[s.a.f]

There are millions of bald men who are married or in relationships that is a FACT.

And many of them are just ordinary working class guys, so what are their wives getting out of it?

Nearly all the bald/balding guys I work with have wives and G/f's and most are earning less than £20k.

How does your theory explain that????

 

[LooseItAll]

wow, a horrible story.

my brother is in that same predicament, he makes about 30K a year but we have rich parents doubling his salary or something. ( i stay in 400K home)

either way he lives in a 250K home with wife that never works, she drives 20K car and has 2 kids, one of them isnt his and he is totally showering this woman in MASSIVE gifts.

she has all the free time in the world since she doesnt work (16 hours a day spare time) so she is probably cheating on him with all that spare time.

then again this girl is poor and tbh she could only do a basic job wherein even if she does work she cant contribute to the lifestyle so there is no point in her working part time in a clothing store as £100 a week wont make a dent towards the living space, car costs, kids etc.

oh and yeah for men, hair , height (and build) and money are big things, for women age and beuty are at the list.

I think you like being a victim because it is easier for you to rebel

No its an easy excuse for his own failure.

Like I said, would it change antyhing if he siad that it is because of his sh*t mommas boy personality and insecurities? Nope. Either way it is something that is unfixable at this age.

I've been struggling with insecurities my whole life and it is just a neverending story.

So while he may be contributing his failure to the wrong cause, in the end it doesn't change anything.

 

[LooseItAll]

Regarding hot guys + ugly chicks vs ugly guys + hot chicks. Well there is a reason why there are far more lonely guys. By single I mean those that never even had a gf their entire life.

You rarely hear about a girl that never had a bf it is almost unheard of. It's all about her having standards too high whereas for a guy it's all about not fitting in the standards of the least attractive girls.

Women are much more picky overall not only lookswise. It is dictated by their instinct. They cannot afford to get impregnated by a genetically weak male.

There are many physical and mental traits that are an instant dealbreaker when it comes to dating women. There are no such in females.

Small breats - some even like them
short - no problem
tall - no problem(many actually are aroused by taller women but are afraid of approaching)
fat - no problem, there are guys that love it
etc.

As for men:
short + small penis and your out of the game. Sure you can try to make it up with confidence but how can one be confident in such situation?

lack of confidence - you're out
etc.

And we are talking about realtionships. When it comes to one night stands men are even more screwed because while a guy may eventually go for a girl below his league, women are not keen on doing so.


Concluding in male/female relationships when it comes to overall attractivenes a guy can get a girl from his league or below, while a woman can get a guy above her league.

 

[HairPieceMan]

because saf those are ODD cases, both my brother and my mums bcother got taken advantage of for being short and bald(ing), its all single mother looking for lots of money to pay their way through life.


I doubt we get true respect from females.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I don't know many bald men personally and I don't see many out and about, the majority of men I see tend to have a good amount of hair on top. however I do see tons of beautiful women every day, everywhere i go, and 9 times out of 10 those women are accompanied by a man who is not going bald.

When I do see bald men around town they are usually alone and seem generally underwhelming, as if they don't have much going for them. For all I know those bald men may have hot babes waiting for them somewhere, but I can only imagine.

The bald men who I do see going around with women tend to be ones who are very fat or very old, i.e. 80 year olds who have much bigger problems than hairloss.

Interestingly enough, I see lots of fat men who have girlfriends/wives, maybe not the hottest women, but vaginas none the less, and some of them are actually very attractive. But (surprise surprise) those same fat guys all seem to have magnificant heads of hair going for them.

All signs are still pointing to the importance of hair.

 

[fodandahalf]

I have a bald (norwood 6) uncle who is also an alcoholic and gambling addict. He lost his hair in his early 20s. He has been with about 10 different woman (proper relationships) since then. Every time it doesn't work out, he's with another woman within weeks. I also know a norwood 3 18 year old guy who is pretty darn obese. He has a girlfriend that I definitely would not say no to.

The thing is, we all know and see people and base our opinions on the majority. But they're not the majority. The things we want (or particularly DON'T want) to see will stick out to us like a sore thumb but they mean nothing. I definitely don't think hair loss makes your life easier despite the cases I've mentioned but you can't establish a cause and effect relationship between hair and sex lives.

 

[seb]

There are millions of bald men who are married or in relationships that is a FACT.

And many of them are just ordinary working class guys, so what are their wives getting out of it?

Nearly all the bald/balding guys I work with have wives and G/f's and most are earning less than £20k.

How does your theory explain that????

Most werent bald when they met their partners."Why dont they leave me" you will say?....because they want the best of both worlds.These "friends" of youres,their partners are no doubt sleeping with other men(men with hair).

 

[fodandahalf]

There are millions of bald men who are married or in relationships that is a FACT.

And many of them are just ordinary working class guys, so what are their wives getting out of it?

Nearly all the bald/balding guys I work with have wives and G/f's and most are earning less than £20k.

How does your theory explain that????

Most werent bald when they met their partners."Why dont they leave me" you will say?....because they want the best of both worlds.These "friends" of youres,their partners are no doubt sleeping with other men(men with hair).

Hahaha ''FACT''

 

[uncomfortable man]

Anyone who won't admit that baldness is a disadvantage when getting women is in denial. I had hair and I'm not afraid to say I looked amazing when I first met my wife. If it weren't for that I probably wouldn't be with her today. Even SAF prefaces his perspective rants with the disclaimer that baldness IS a disadvantage.

 

[theangryone]

Regarding hot guys + ugly chicks vs ugly guys + hot chicks. Well there is a reason why there are far more lonely guys. By single I mean those that never even had a gf their entire life.

You rarely hear about a girl that never had a bf it is almost unheard of. It's all about her having standards too high whereas for a guy it's all about not fitting in the standards of the least attractive girls.

Women are much more picky overall not only lookswise. It is dictated by their instinct. They cannot afford to get impregnated by a genetically weak male.

There are many physical and mental traits that are an instant dealbreaker when it comes to dating women. There are no such in females.

Small breats - some even like them
short - no problem
tall - no problem(many actually are aroused by taller women but are afraid of approaching)
fat - no problem, there are guys that love it
etc.

As for men:
short + small penis and your out of the game. Sure you can try to make it up with confidence but how can one be confident in such situation?

lack of confidence - you're out
etc.

And we are talking about realtionships. When it comes to one night stands men are even more screwed because while a guy may eventually go for a girl below his league, women are not keen on doing so.


Concluding in male/female relationships when it comes to overall attractivenes a guy can get a girl from his league or below, while a woman can get a guy above her league.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

:bravo:

I have fallen for women who are flat chested, women who are fat, women who are disabled, women who are ugly, and guess what? Most of the time these women are taken, and if they were not taken, I asked them out and they rejected me.

The more I put myself out there and the more observational I became, the more I realized that women are both more shallow and more picky than men, by far.

Men who are above average who go for women who are obese, ugly, etc. really hurt things for guys like us. If even a 300 pound women have tall, good looking men with hair approaching them, of course they reject guys like us, and with even the worst women having better options than us, that leaves us with no options at all.

 

[slipy]

The more I put myself out there and the more observational I became, the more I realized that women are both more shallow and more picky than men, by far.

Men who are above average who go for women who are obese, ugly, etc. really hurt things for guys like us. If even a 300 pound women have tall, good looking men with hair approaching them, of course they reject guys like us, and with even the worst women having better options than us, that leaves us with no options at all.

adapt to the situation and use hookers instead.

 

[Beingbaldsucks]

There are millions of bald men who are married or in relationships that is a FACT.

And many of them are just ordinary working class guys, so what are their wives getting out of it?

Nearly all the bald/balding guys I work with have wives and G/f's and most are earning less than £20k.

How does your theory explain that????

There are also many gold diggering sl*ts who will not care about f*****g ugly man as long as they have money. When you see a short bald guy with a non ugly girl you bet he has the money

 

[s.a.f]

Funny, I know that the guys I work with DONT have money but they all manage to get women.

Then again they dont spend their evenings crying infront of the bedroom mirror. :sobbing:

 

[Beingbaldsucks]

Funny, I know that the guys I work with DONT have money but they all manage to get women.

Then again they dont spend their evenings crying infront of the bedroom mirror. :sobbing:

They are also not spending them on weird pathetic hair transplant'S

 

[hairlosshippie]

While I will agree with UCman that there is absolutely a disadvantage when approaching women, these dire reports of theangryone are absolutely absurd. I can come back with plenty of happy, balding, young men who don't make good money with attractive wives.

I don't know Ori's story, but I've also had success as a broke student suffering from hairloss.

Now a sly NW4 w/ NW6 diffuse @ age 27, a cute 21 year old asked me for MY number a few weeks ago at a party. Guess what? I wasn't wearing a hat and this was at a big house part with 50-60 people. All the lights were on, no sexy lighting, and I was the only bald idiot in the place. I'm sure hairlossman will have an academic response for this.

Before I shaved my head a few months ago, I had a ratty NW3.5/4.5 going on w/ a thinning bald spot on the back...still managed to meet a super cute girl that I went out with a few times. It has definitely been more difficult to get girls to notice me as my hairloss only gets worse, but it hasn't stopped me from dating attractive women c ompletely.

If these dudes are miserable/loathing/desperate enough to marry and STAY an "obese woman who cheats on them regularly", I can promise you that hairloss is only a fraction of their problems.

 

[Captain Obvious]

adapt to the situation and use hookers instead.

sometimes it's not the sex we need, it's the feeling of being wanted. that feeling you get when a girl actually likes you and she shows it.

 

[s.a.f]

Funny, I know that the guys I work with DONT have money but they all manage to get women.

Then again they dont spend their evenings crying infront of the bedroom mirror. :sobbing:

They are also not spending them on weird pathetic hair transplant'S

Yeah and I'm getting laid now, instead of crying about it what a fool I am. :whistle:

 

[slipy]

be glad them hair transplant's saved you, otherwise you'd be still in our position.

 

[s.a.f]

be glad them hair transplant's saved you, otherwise you'd be still in our position.

How do you explain the majority of 'ordinary' bald guys who dont get hair transplant's and still manage to have a life?
If you knew my story you'd know that I'm not in much of a better position than when I was a full NW6.
So whats with all the NW2's and 3's on here who claim that its now impossible for them to get a woman?

 

[Captain Obvious]

How do you explain the majority of 'ordinary' bald guys who dont get hair transplant's and still manage to have a life?

i'll explain how: they started losing later in life. after they had a career, after they had kids, after they had a wife, after they had all those little adventures that their hair got them into, then they started to thin out. that is normal and most guys expect it might happen to them anyway.

but go look at a college campus and try to spot the ones who are already bald and see just how much of a life they have. no kids, no wife, no house, no career and to top it off no hair! that guy has a lot to compensate for.