I need only food and sex from girls. Is it a disorder?

[PRIMEN]

Obviously I can hide it and be a regular man with emotions who care but the truth is I don't want to have emotional/intellectual/spiritual journey and spend time on a girl. I only want someone to cook for me and to have sex if I want.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

apart from looking at relationships in a very limited, immature, parasitic way ( what do I want ?) , and self-defeating as well — since where are you going to find a girl who wants a relationship on those terms ? unless you're obscenely wealthy or handsome perhaps, which I'm guessing you're not — it's not a disorder no, just imo a heavy personality flaw

you're closing off one of the most rewarding and rich dimensions of life. sure there other things that give intense satisfaction, but most pleasures are too transient and superficial, and without genuine love you will always suffer a limited existence

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Relationship is about supporting each other, helping each other grow

And honestly having a strong emotional connection and building intimacy etc make the sex better and more special at the end

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

More and more modern men just don't care about a traditional relationship anymore because of many factors. Hyper individualism is one of those and I completely understand and some what relate to OP even though @DyingOfTheLight is right that relationships are much more than just sex and practical stuff but let's face it, times have changed. That utopian, romantic view is nothing more than a fantasy for many people. Also more alternatives and distractions than ever before. More and more are going to stay single (by choice)... Not a good evolution but statistics are clear.

times have changed for the worse on that front, that is true, but all those distractions are still woefully inadequate

I've seen many people who claim to be happy without love, I've met 0 people who were genuinely happy in the absence of it

they like to Imagine themself as a Tesla or Newton and live ascetic lives in the service of some greater ideal, but they don't even have a fraction of the talent and passion required to make such a life a bearable one, let alone desirable

and without companionship ( not even "love") you can only cope for so long

 

[justinbieberscombover]

I agree these are all weak substitutes but let's be honest. Who experiences real love? A child and mother sure but between man and woman? I'd say that's conditional love and not pure, real love atleast not for the vast majority. Also 50%+ divorce rates in many western countries... So seems not many are happy by your standards in our modern society.

I believe we need to go back to a more practical/rational romance, not using love as the most important criteria for relationships (love can grow too imo) . Atleast if we want a stable society where we can maximize people's "happiness". Anyway this is a deeper and difficult subject to explore.

Being in love fades away, love is a daily practice imo.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

I agree these are all weak substitutes but let's be honest. Who experiences real love? A child and mother sure but between man and woman? I'd say that's conditional love and not pure, real love atleast not for the vast majority. Also 50%+ divorce rates in many western countries... So seems not many are happy by your standards in our modern society.

I believe we need to go back to a more practical/rational romance, not using love as the most important criteria for relationships (love can grow too imo) . Atleast if we want a stable society where we can maximize people's "happiness". Anyway this is a deeper and difficult subject to explore.

hmm the Jordan Peterson interpretation. while I mostly agree with that solution, I'm still more of a romantic myself and do believe in unconditional love between man and woman — not that such a profound level of love develops on first sight of course, but I believe, as you said, that it can be nourished, carefully cultivated over the years into something unselfish and true. perhaps because I experience it myself

I think the core of the issue is that nowadays people give up on each other too soon. there's little understanding and patience, because, in the back of our minds, we are constantly tempted by ( the idea of ) an overabundance of options on the dating market. in truth it's simply another dimension of life corrupted by consumerism, cliché I know

going back to a more pragmatic idea of romance might not help as long as we see each other merely as things, experiences and bodies, to be consumed by one another

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

The romantic issue is just part of a larger cultural decline we experience in the west imo. We're living in an extremely liberal society combined with neo liberal capitalism that just makes everything into a (financial) transaction.

yes, I agree. I know some people like to justify this by claiming everything is in itself transactional, and perhaps initially that's true, but relationships are incredibly layered and nuanced and it's impossible to limit them in such a way and still say something meaningful. moreover there's obviously a difference between an element of transaction and being defined by it; like nowadays how people are often discarded, in friendships and other relations as well, once they have been consumed, spend, and become obsolete

our society is falling apart at the seams... tearing itself apart. and only loosely held together by the powers that be so they can squeeze out the last drops of juice

 

[DoctorHouse]

Being in love fades away, love is a daily practice imo.

The most successful relationships are when both parties know how to psychologically support each other mentally and physically. If you tend to be self centered and selfish, you will fail. It's all about compromise. Love should eventually be unconditional if you are truly in love. You have to make the novelty never wear off. The problem with society today is they have too many options and distractions so loyalty and faithfulness is declining. This forum exists because we all need some type of companionship and mental support in our lives. We all yearn for brotherhood and acceptance. This place can give you validation and acceptance in a virtual sense. But it's better to get it in person if you can.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

I believe that the welfare state, a deviation from capitalism, has contributed to the collapse of the family by subsidizing single motherhood.

Though I think the core of the problem is cultural. The Mormons live in the same society like everybody else, but their family stability is through the roof.

I should say that I don't consider existing societies capitalist, I'd describe them as a mixture between capitalism and socialism. The system I favor is utterly unregulated ultra-capitalism.

merciless. I understand the appeal but I have no trust in the ability of the market to regulate itself at all times. I believe in a Keynesian system

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

I think the question whether markets work well is less important than the question whether governments work better than markets.

hmm. what gives an individual more power n your opinion: voting with their wallet of actually voting ?
serious question

 

[justinbieberscombover]

The most successful relationships are when both parties know how to psychologically support each other mentally and physically. If you tend to be self centered and selfish, you will fail. It's all about compromise. Love should eventually be unconditional if you are truly in love. You have to make the novelty never wear off. The problem with society today is they have too many options and distractions so loyalty and faithfulness is declining. This forum exists because we all need some type of companionship and mental support in our lives. We all yearn for brotherhood and acceptance. This place can give you validation and acceptance in a virtual sense. But it's better to get it in person if you can.

Exactly, I compromise a bit every single day to make it work. And it's actually working. You can still find examples of love and loyalty in today's society but of course it's getting harder. Somehow people who manage to maintain a loving relationship are now considered heroes, whereas in the past it was just expected.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Exactly, I compromise a bit every single day to make it work. And it's actually working. You can still find examples of love and loyalty in today's society but of course it's getting harder. Somehow people who manage to maintain a loving relationship are now considered heroes, whereas in the past it was just expected.

You never give up on whatever you do. Determination and discipline is why you keep succeeding. I admire you alot.

 

[Feelsbadman]

sound like a sociopath

 

[KevinEdEddEddy]

Well idk prepare to get neither

 

[Isaac Newton]

But there have been societies that practiced polygyny, for example. In many societies, the upper classes practiced it.

Jesus ur a leftist f** lmao. These were retarded primitives

 

[Isaac Newton]

times have changed for the worse on that front, that is true, but all those distractions are still woefully inadequate

I've seen many people who claim to be happy without love, I've met 0 people who were genuinely happy in the absence of it

they like to Imagine themself as a Tesla or Newton and live ascetic lives in the service of some greater ideal, but they don't even have a fraction of the talent and passion required to make such a life a bearable one, let alone desirable

and without companionship ( not even "love") you can only cope for so long

You won't magically be able to be happy alone if you're talented or a genius. Newton and tesla were probably autistic or something so they're exceptions. And that's assuming they were happy in the first place

 

[Isaac Newton]

"In place of the soft-voiced, a gentlewoman of my reverent worship, has come the woman who thinks that her chief success in life lies in making herself as much as possible like man—in dress, voice and actions, in sports and achievements of every kind ... The tendency of women to push aside man, supplanting the old spirit of cooperation with him in all the affairs of life, is very disappointing to me."

-based tesla. Lol

 

[BurningCoals]

"In place of the soft-voiced, a gentlewoman of my reverent worship, has come the woman who thinks that her chief success in life lies in making herself as much as possible like man—in dress, voice and actions, in sports and achievements of every kind ... The tendency of women to push aside man, supplanting the old spirit of cooperation with him in all the affairs of life, is very disappointing to me."

-based tesla. Lol

 

[justinbieberscombover]

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f*** this old *** nerd

 

[BurningCoals]

f*** this old *** nerd

Did he murder your whole family or something lol