I Would Give Anything To Escape This

KO21

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I'm iffy on those types of transplants too. I don't want a dense NW1 hairline. It'll look foolish when I get older and have thinner hair else where.

I'm aiming for a nice nw2. Not too dense as I want to wear it real short or shaved and expect further loss down the road. I just want to be able to frame my face and not to worry about this disease anymore at least for a while. And I'm aware down the line I'll probably need another transplant to clean up my crown when it starts to go heavily
 

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Sure. I've done my research and know what I'm doing with the transplant. I'm 100% certain it's the right choice for me.

You are right that some bald men can pull off the look and get attractive women. The operative word here is "some", I disagree that practically any guy can look decent bald. Unfortunately I have tried going sly and it was a brutal eye opener. I will never go back to that life. I'd rather have a botched hair transplant and jump off a bridge.

The fact is, I would not have met my current partner if I was sly, seeing as she flat out told me she was not attracted to bald men and always left-swiped them on dating apps. Nor would I have my current job: I have after many years in my industry not seen a single bald or NW3+ entry-level employee. You seem to be in the UK, where male pattern baldness is very common, and around blue collar milieus where the bald look is common and acceptable. Well, let me tell you: I was at a party recently where you had fourty-some guys at my age (early thirties) from similar backgrounds. There was not a single bald guy among them. With my NW3A I was by far the one with the most aggressive hair loss. 9/10 had dense NW1s. This is a common refrain in my social life. Young bald guys do not figure in it. They simply do not show up. I wonder why?

I appreciate your attempt at giving a positive perspective, but being bald is not accepted in my world and will likely f*** my life over royally. Anything is preferable to it.

Zircon, hypothetical question for ya.

Would you go through with your transplant now if you KNEW it would look terrible when your 45+ and you would be forced to bic your head daily?
 

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Yes. I would have to bic either way, and the present value of minor cosmetic issues with FUE scars 15 years down the line is vanishingly small for me.
This exactly, if you go bald later in life, you're going to have to bix anyway so not getting a hair transplant now because you might look bad later is stupid. You're going to look bad later if you don't get a hair transplant anyway!
 

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This exactly, if you go bald later in life, you're going to have to bix anyway so not getting a hair transplant now because you might look bad later is stupid. You're going to look bad later if you don't get a hair transplant anyway!

That's what's making me go through with it. At age 26 I can't do this combover/concealer sh*t anymore. I basically just want to buy myself
5-10 years of no hairloss worries. I need peace of mind.
 

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I'm not sure if it was through reading about Hegel that I picked up on this, but yes I'm well aware of linguistic determinism and theories related to that. Your application in this context, and the understanding of image sharing on social media as a "language", are intriguing. I'll have to mull over those ideas for some time.

The age of image sharing and social media puts a huge premium on good looks, it's true, but beyond all it puts a premium on the absence of visible flaws. It makes sense: In today's world, you are not just someone to love or befriend, you are someone to be shared and presented to the outside world as a reflection of the worth of those around you. Someone with visible flaws, however genetic or beyond the individual's control these flaws may be, is by extension a reflection of low worth. Today's image-driven world of friendship, romance and desire therefore has no use for the bald man, just as it has no use for those with cleft palates, facial scars and crooked teeth. He is confined instead to a dark, austere netherworld of mediocrity and compromises. I might end up there eventually, but at least I'll have given it a good fight before I do.
I agree completely.
People do not like what they like, apart from hardcore intellectuals.
People like what the image-driven culture thinks it is cool to show off. We're all, men and women alike, becoming trophy wives.
 
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Zircon, are you not from the UK?

You write in a very British manner.

And yes, you are right, bald men are very common in working class culture. Middle class men tend to do the Larry David.
 

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Sometimes even not having one can be better than having one if you are not a good candidate for one and can save you from more stress in future. The hair transplant's I see on youtube when guys have densely packed hairlines...I personally cringe. Yes they look great short term. Maybe even for 5-10 years if on finasteride. But what then?

Yes, people should live bald through the best years of their life, their 20s and 30s, because when they're 50 it might look slightly less than natural if they get a stupidly low hairline.
 

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Hey just be thankful you aren't in Wayne Rooney's boat.. You can't fix that ugly mug of his.. even with his 20 transplants.
 

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Sure. I've done my research and know what I'm doing with the transplant. I'm 100% certain it's the right choice for me.

You are right that some bald men can pull off the look and get attractive women. The operative word here is "some", I disagree that practically any guy can look decent bald. Unfortunately I have tried going sly and it was a brutal eye opener. I will never go back to that life. I'd rather have a botched hair transplant and jump off a bridge.

The fact is, I would not have met my current partner if I was sly, seeing as she flat out told me she was not attracted to bald men and always left-swiped them on dating apps. Nor would I have my current job: I have after many years in my industry not seen a single bald or NW3+ entry-level employee. You seem to be in the UK, where male pattern baldness is very common, and around blue collar milieus where the bald look is common and acceptable. Well, let me tell you: I was at a party recently where you had fourty-some guys at my age (early thirties) from similar backgrounds. There was not a single bald guy among them. With my NW3A I was by far the one with the most aggressive hair loss. 9/10 had dense NW1s. This is a common refrain in my social life. Young bald guys do not figure in it. They simply do not show up. I wonder why?

I appreciate your attempt at giving a positive perspective, but being bald is not accepted in my world and will likely f*** my life over royally. Anything is preferable to it.

What exactly is it you do out of interest? I personally struggle to think much of any environment where as you suggest it is not possible to be accepted if bald.

And is a girl really a great girl if she simply won't be attracted to you bald? Ok maybe she is a nice girl and you could argue, 'well everyone has their turn ons/turn offs', but for a woman to point blank be so turned off by something so common and normal, that would concern me in any long term partner.

Yes I am in the UK and male pattern baldness is very common here. I'd be very interested actually in knowing if there are any proper stats of male pattern baldness by country. When I was in the USA not so long ago I did think that people maybe had slightly better hair there generally, but still it wasn't exactly uncommon.
 

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but for a woman to point blank be so turned off by something so common and normal, that would concern me in any long term partner.

Who cares if its common or normal? Its UGLY. Being overweight is also common/normal. Why would a woman settle for a balding guy when there's twice as many men with great hair?At least in your sexual prime 20s/early 30s
 

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Yes, people should live bald through the best years of their life, their 20s and 30s, because when they're 50 it might look slightly less than natural if they get a stupidly low hairline.

There are so, so many people out there regretting their hair transplants and there will be more in future. From unnecessary strip scars to moth bitten looking FUE donor areas, to unnatural hairline placement. If a future NW6 has a hairline implanted at any real density in even a NW2 pattern then without follow up transplants (which would need to be very sparse), it is going to look very unnatural when the guy is older. I saw a guy on a plane recently who had clearly had a transplant...it just looked so unnatural and I could only imagine the amount of comments he must have got either directly or behind his back about why the frontal half of his head had a fullish hair pattern but the back half had a perfect horseshoe. Unquestionably that guy would have been better off bald.
 

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Who cares if its common or normal? Its UGLY. Why would a woman settle for a balding guy when there's twice as many men with great hair? At least in your sexual prime 20s/early 30s

I don't know...you can ask the many women on my facebook who have 'settled' on these ugly balding men if you like. Want me to email you their names? Get a grip, it happens.

As I said, more and more I am realising that as you are balding then you just cut shorter. Keep it tidy and yeah you're still balding but not many people are going to look horrific doing that. In the long run chances are you'll look better than the guy who had the aggressive transplant.
 

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The type of dumbass you're talking about, who get aggressive hairlines when destined for extensive loss, are in the extreme minority, especially in 2016. Go to a good surgeon, with realistic expectations tailored to your personal hairloss situation, and you are overwhelmingly likely to get a result that is far better than your alternative - not risking it.
 

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The type of dumbass you're talking about, who get aggressive hairlines when destined for extensive loss, are in the extreme minority, especially in 2016. Go to a good surgeon, with realistic expectations tailored to your personal hairloss situation, and you are overwhelmingly likely to get a result that is far better than your alternative - not risking it.

There are far more surgeons out there than people realise who are transplanting patients in a way that will look bad when they are older. I remember going to 2-3 surgeons ages ago who would have happily given me hairline transplants... Simple fact is I will end up a complete NW6...the bulk measurements of one doctor showed me that...yet the other 2-3 were all telling me 'oh no you have plenty of hair still ...you'll only lose a bit more'. People only see the short term. A hair transplant can be like a trap if youre not a v good candidate...so many older guys now just want to shave their heads down or have really close cuts to look more graceful but it exposes the signs of the transplant ehich to them is far more embarassing than balding.
 

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I'm going to New York for three days to visit family. I had to think about which toiletries to take. For most people it's toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, deoderent and they're done. No thinking involved. Very little space and weight in luggage. Thirty seconds of effortless and anguish-less packing. For me it's a more complex cost-benefit analysis. Add in the skincare products and the issue amplifies.


Look on the bright side, Dave ... you could be putting Krazy Glue, Super Tape, and a spare wig in that overnight bag like "Noah"...
 
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There wouldn't be any true stats on balding. Perhaps only those seeking treatment.

male pattern baldness isn't seen as an illness so it will not be on all medical records.
 

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when I'll go hair transplant I gonna make NW1.75 or even NW2

I always lol at people get NW0 by hair transplant and then loosing till NW6 and do not have any grafts anymore

REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS are the key
 

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I always lol at people get NW0 by hair transplant and then loosing till NW6 and do not have any grafts anymore

Nobody to blame but yourself if you do that. Should really be common sense. I guess its just natural selection at work. No woman is gonna be reproducing with that weird fringed dumbass.
 
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