If it were not for the women, would you care about baldness?

[HairPieceMan]

are you saying if everyman on the planet went the same was as UCman or me did in mid 20s everyone wouldn't be in a panick about it?

or would the advise be "just let nature take its course", then every man would be bald?

hardly, it would be a huge problem to be solved.


anyway well im stating it's a genetic flaw, it just so happens the absense of hair has a much less social impact on a black man.

im not debating whether it's "nice" looking or not, that is subjective, it is still unnatural to have no hair on the scalp.

we should still accept that baldness is a purely visual genetic flaw with a cure on the way, whether it looks cool on a guy or not is not what i was refering to.

 

[s.a.f]

Thats like saying having a big nose or a small dick or excessive maybe wonky teeth is a genetic flaw. I think your definition of a genetic flaw differs somewhat to the rest of societies. Is it also unnatural in your opinion to be 5'4"?

If 75% or even 100% of men were bald it would not be a big problem it would simply be a common look (which is exactly what many people view it as anyway).
Its not like a bald guy walking down the street causes cars to stop and people to point.

 

[CaptainForehead]

are you saying if everyman on the planet went the same was as UCman or me did in mid 20s everyone wouldn't be in a panick about it?

or would the advise be "just let nature take its course", then every man would be bald?

hardly, it would be a huge problem to be solved.

Surely you cannot be serious.


If everyone went bald in early/mid 20s, it would be considered absolutely natural.

There are few things in life I am 100% sure about. This is one of them. I am more sure of this than of my being alive 8 seconds from now. Of the entire world not spontaneously imploding 5 seconds from now.

 

[bigentries]

If every man on earth was bald, baldness would not have any sort of impact.

What is unnatural anyway? Being 6' tall was considered enormous 100 years ago.
People who lack body hair are considered lucky these days in the Western world
There are stories about how fathers used to discourage their daughters from having sex with black men because "they had big penises" and that's where the myth came to exist.

A genetic trait that is just considered cosmetically undesirable is hardly a "flaw".

 

[s.a.f]

Yeah, show me one person who does'nt have a flaw. :dunno:

 

[CaptainForehead]

A genetic trait that is just considered cosmetically undesirable is hardly a "flaw".

Well (switching directions), usually cosmetically undesirable flaws signal genetic flaws. Handsome folks are symmetrical, signifying more robust genes etc.

 

[bigentries]

Well (switching directions), usually cosmetically undesirable flaws signal genetic flaws. Handsome folks are symmetrical, signifying more robust genes etc.

I kinda dig to lurk into anarchist or extreme leftist forums.
Sometimes stuff like that ends up popping and everyone ends up ripping them apart.
Lots of those studies are very biased and extremely racist. I don't deny that ones here and there are interesting, but still a controversial topic.

Anyway, the people I see on the streets with more kids are usually ugly, poor and (an assumption) not the smartest around.

 

[s.a.f]

Anyway, the people I see on the streets with more kids are usually ugly, poor and (an assumption) not the smartest around.

Cue an old HairLossTalk.com favourite: :whistle:

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Incidently one thing that always makes reminds me of the 'hairloss theories' people with their "its caused by Diet/Masterbating/working out ect ect..." theories is the fact that if someone's infertile ie low sperm count people always blame it on lifestyle or smoking and yet the people with tribes of about 10 kids are always unemployed chain smoking alcoholics living on fast food.

Yet more evidence for the genetics arguement I'd say. :whistle:

 

[virtuality]

With me it's not about the women only.

Even if I was in male company I'd still make an effort to look good. (I sound like a woman now)

I guess it's about social status.

When it comes to women, the younger ones might be more into looks but when it comes to choosing a long term partner I don't think hair is a priority.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Its like this. Suppose you are smart and into science. You are put into a group where the others are idiots. The idiots make fun of you because they dont understand you. Do you feel bad about yourself, hate yourself or think "idiots, so many idiots", with your self worth intact.

Consider the alternative scenario where you are not so smart. And you are put into a group of smart people. They make fun of you for being dumb.

How do you feel when you get rejected for being bald? Scenario 1 or 2?

Despite knowing that being bald isn't my fault and despite the fact that being bald doesn't make me any less of a human being, when half the people I see out in public look at me like there is something wrong with me then I'm sorry but I can't help but feel inadequate. It's like a child who grew up being told that they are worthless day in and day out... after a while they internalize all the negative feedback and believe it themselves. That's what living 10 + years as a bald man has done to me... left me self-conscious and insecure and telling myself that all of those people are idiotic jerks doesn't go a long way in solving the problem. As much as I'd love to, I can't isolate myself from society so I am forced to either expose my bald head and endure their hostile prejudice or live in hiding, under a beanie.

 

[Reindel]

It is true that looks come at first sight. Who wouldn't, right? Women see your looks because it came first. But I have to add that above everything else, the personality of the man lingers among women than the looks itself. So, who cares if you are bald but have such a sincere and good heart - women will still go after you. More than fifty percent of women go for guys who sincerely care for them than those who are so drop dead gorgeous but such a pain in the head....you know what I mean. :woot:

 

[CaptainForehead]

So, who cares if you are bald but have such a sincere and good heart - women will still go after you.

Right, coz sincerity and a good heart are what attract women :tongue:

 

[Michael84]

Suppose your chances with women were the same with and without hair. Just suppose. Then, would you care about baldness?

Yes, I would. Because there are other values in the world except women's opinion...

 

[bigentries]

hell no. I would still care about hair. I could care less about b*tches opinion. It's about social status, it's about not looking like a giant dick/thumb. Seriously tho, my lifestyle was hippie-ish and I was wanting to grow hair just about the time I started thinning. The worst coincidence ever.

Well, if you care about social status, that is not a very "hippie-ish" lifestyle. It's not like old hippies wearing long horseshoes don't exist

So let me get this straight. It's not about women's opinion. It is about social status. Isn't social status a matter of other people's opinions about you? Or do you only care about what other males think about you?

Because if I looked like Justin Bieber, I wouldn't give a damn about what other men think about me. I would be getting the ladies, not them

 

[bigentries]

yea but still it's proven bald men are paid less. they don't look as dignified or presentable. It's out of the ordinary. Long hair is more than just a look, it's a lifestyle. It's a form of rebellion. And how am I going to be an old hippie at 18? lol Again, it's 95% MY OPINION and not bishes. F*ck bishes. (except for that 5% lol) Being considered as "lower" by females is just a bad byproduct of the situation.

You have any proof that bald men are paid less? We have studies about how ugly people are paid less, not bald people. And they still show barely any difference without controlling other variables. Of course my team manager looks way better than anyone working at a gas station, but it's only because he has money to care about his looks. He doesn't look that different if he gained a few pounds and was covered in grease

And why would you care about money if you want to be rebellious? You know that people cut their hair and hide their tatoos if they want to work in an office right?

And shaving your hair is also a form rebellion. Ever heard about skinheads? (the good kind)
What about old-school punk hair styles? Don't tell me those are "ordinary"

If the problem was only your own opinion, I advice you to just accept how you are. You can change your attitude about the way you feel about yourself, it only becomes a problem when people make you feel a certain way about your looks, if you are indeed one of those lucky fellas that don't care about the opinion of others, you already have won the battle.

 

[HairPieceMan]

yes i would care.

becuase i prefer to have a frame to my face becuase i beleive that is what humans are naturally meant to have, a hairline, it looks normal and natural, whether your 15 or 55, it just makes sense, unless your black of course, or unless your doing a stereortype like a big wrestler type guy.

also i prefer to not have the 10 minute daily shaving maintenance to make sure i don't look like bozo the f*****g clown.

and as well with baldness i can't wear hats becuase then i look insecure, and i like wearing hats.

and i don't like how it is cold all the time where i am which sucks

and even when it is sunny i feel the heat on my head to much.

so for any extreme weather conditions hair is good, be it rain, cold or very hot.

and i don't have to worry about skincare routines or looking perfect in everyway to make up for the bald head.

and also i don't have to re-arrange my wardrobe around the bald head.

overall baldness just f*****g sucks outside the asthetic appeal to having hair.

 

[HairPieceMan]

im 5' 4.5" barefoot, ill be your height 5 8, after 2 leg lenthening surgeries, taking up to one full year of my life and costing £15K

fun life for me!

 

[Ori83]

why dont you hit with short women, i see some smokin hot short babes ? (i dated a girl who was 1.55m (which is 5''1?) she would date a guy who is 5''4 easily. (and i know another hot "short" girl who id love to date, sadly she is too short for me... i really feel like posting a picture of her, but i hate to offend her if she finds out).. i can pm you if you like tho, as a motivation treat

 

[HairPieceMan]

haha lol, yeah I want to, im just afraid to meet women and be soo short :'(

I have 2.25 inch lifts so I think ill wear them and i'll be like 5 7 barefoot guy putting on a shoe making me 5 8.

so yeah at 5 8 ill be as tall as neil strauss who did well with women.

anyway once i have obtained a short girl, i just have to convince her to come to armenia with me to get 2 inches taller, then all will be well in HPM's world.

 

[cantholdmedown]

yes i would care.

becuase i prefer to have a frame to my face becuase i beleive that is what humans are naturally meant to have, a hairline, it looks normal and natural, whether your 15 or 55, it just makes sense, unless your black of course, or unless your doing a stereortype like a big wrestler type guy.

also i prefer to not have the 10 minute daily shaving maintenance to make sure i don't look like bozo the f****ing clown.

and as well with baldness i can't wear hats becuase then i look insecure, and i like wearing hats.

and i don't like how it is cold all the time where i am which sucks

and even when it is sunny i feel the heat on my head to much.

so for any extreme weather conditions hair is good, be it rain, cold or very hot.

and i don't have to worry about skincare routines or looking perfect in everyway to make up for the bald head.

and also i don't have to re-arrange my wardrobe around the bald head.

overall baldness just f****ing sucks outside the asthetic appeal to having hair.

Lol HPM types pretty crazy but makes some good points.