This. I've never really been one for 'looks maxing'; I take care of myself, workout, dress well etc. but that's about the extent of it. I tried finasteride but got sides and had to drop it. Haven't touched anything since and besides, my hair is too far gone now for treatments to have much of an effect. I had no idea the amount of sh*t most other people are putting themselves through though. Popping beta caranole or whatever that stuff is just to get a slightly darker skin tone, finasteride age 16 as a preventative measure (before male pattern baldness has even started happening) - seriously, there's multiple people on these forums who aren't even necessarily balding (Dave Smith for example); they're heffing these powerful anti-androgens as a precaution, a f*****g PRECAUTION. Dudes wearing eyeliner and mascara even, coloured contact lenses, all kinds of crazy sh*t. Sluthate-style looks maxing is literally the norm these days. 2K17 innit: if you don't look good, you're not worth sh*t.