Is Male Pattern Baldness Rare @ The Population

[shookwun]

At my primary gym, when I go during the daytime hours, it's like 80% senior citizen/retired folks wandering around on the machines. The after 4pm crowd tends to be younger, when the majority of under 35 year old males hit the weights. Like 90% of them are NW1's from my observation

And on average most are good looking.

this guy needs to leave his house once in awhile. this incel asylum is a figment of his imagination. Most skinny-fat incels are at home exerting all there energy jerking off to weird p**rn.

Even when I played volleyball, and soccer at our local rec center in a league, most the people were in shape, and moderately attractive.


it's all relative, being handsome, and keeping in shape. Self-improvement.

Most my friends that are good looking all do some form of exercise whether its aerobic, running to weight lighting.

 

[CopeForLife]

yeah and black men in basketball tall because they are playing basketball...

 

[shookwun]

yeah and black men in basketball tall because they are playing basketball...

what the f*** are you even talking about.


tall people are usually the norm in basketball, regardless of color.

 

[blackg]

lol my slayer friends do this every time

one is still 5% bf never hit the gym only hard drugs and cheap alco, junkest food — slays 10/10

another two have beer bellies but tall as f*** slays whenever they want to and whoever want to

last one just genetically gifted even in comparison to every above and he also never mentioned gymceling

I don't know if I believe these stories about your "friends."

 

[shookwun]

I don't know if I believe these stories about your "friends."

slayer friends*** get it right.


apparently anyone who get laids, and has a girlfriend nowadays is a slayer.

 

[SmoothSailing]

And on average most are good looking.

this guy needs to leave his house once in awhile. this incel asylum is a figment of his imagination. Most skinny-fat incels are at home exerting all there energy jerking off to weird p*rn.

Even when I played volleyball, and soccer at our local rec center in a league, most the people were in shape, and moderately attractive.


it's all relative, being handsome, keeping in shape. Self-improvement.

Most my friends that are good looking all do some form of exercise whether its aerobic, running to weight lighting.

Most good looking guys will do some sort of exercise alright.

But there has definitely been quite a huge shift in the past 10 years here, guys who would normally do nothing besides the odd 5-aside game have taken up going to the gym. The regular gym goers used to always complain about it, although not anymore because it's become commonplace. Clearly the main motivation is appearance, and I'd say that from this new group it's largely shorter, uglier or balder than average guys. It's obvious why they would have more motivation. I enjoy lifting and I enjoy exercise but if I was 6'4 with a full head of hair I just don't imagine I would be busting my *** off every weekday in the gym, laziness would just take over.

 

[pjhair]

lol my slayer friends do this every time

one is still 5% bf never hit the gym only hard drugs and cheap alco, junkest food — slays 10/10

Not everyone has metabolism to stay slim while eating junk food and no workout. Everyone's body is different and you have to figure out your own diet and activity level to stay fit.

 

[shookwun]

Most good looking guys will do some sort of exercise alright.

But there has definitely been quite a huge shift in the past 10 years here, guys who would normally do nothing besides the odd 5-aside game have taken up going to the gym. The regular gym goers used to always complain about it, although not anymore because it's become commonplace. Clearly the main motivation is appearance, and I'd say that from this new group it's largely shorter, uglier or balder than average guys. It's obvious why they would have more motivation. I enjoy lifting and I enjoy exercise but if I was 6'4 with a full head of hair I just don't imagine I would be busting my *** off every weekday in the gym, laziness would just take over.

It wouldn't matter if I was as you describe. I am into self-improvement. I enjoy making lots of money, always putting my name down for over time on my days off. lifting weights to transcend into a stronger and better looking version then my previous self. Reading books, and keeping up to date on the world.


Put it this way, I lift weights because of the results. if I could effortlessly look the way i do sitting at home, then I would do just that.

We lift weights to look good, and get results.

 

[SmoothSailing]

It wouldn't matter if I was as you describe. I am into self-improvement. I enjoy making lots of money, always putting my name down for over time on my days off. lifting weights to transcend into a stronger and better looking version then my previous self. Reading books, and keeping up to date on the world.


Put it this way, I lift weights because of the results. if I could effortlessly look the way i do sitting at home, then I would do just that.

We lift weights to look good, and get results.

Yes you would have been one of the original gym goers. I'm talking about a new crowd of people who are mostly focused on improving their chances with women. Naturally those who are worse off with women will want to improve their chances more so than others.

Those who can already get women will need to be like you, into self-improvement, in order to motivate themselves to go to the gym.

 

[shookwun]

Yes you would have been one of the original gym goers. I'm talking about a new crowd of people who are mostly focused on improving their chances with women. Naturally those who are worse off with women will want to improve their chances more so than others.

Those who can already get women will need to be like you, into self-improvement, in order to motivate themselves to go to the gym.

I don't understand where people get this idea that lifting weights will get them laid. it will make almost no difference unless you were borderline aushwitz or severely obese.

I lift weights to look good, that's it. it will help make you more attractive, but wont attribute you to getting laid if you otherwise couldn't before hand.


Lifting weights will however make you feel better about yourself, aid with self-esteem and make you think more objectively. In return more potential dates, and the possibility of getting laid more often as a result.

 

[shookwun]

When I look at my social groups of friends, despite most getting no results(LOL), it's usually people who are attractive before hand that capitalize on the ability to make themselves look even better. Women are most delusional when it comes to fitness, they simply don't have the androgen output to change anything. At most they put on a few lb's, start becoming narcissistic, wearing gym apparel, von dutch hats and become the ultimate w****s that make my c*** throbb. Women = all genetics. I am not saying women shouldn't lift, but LOL. they never put on any weight, and if they do it's so marginal, a c*** hair makes better gains. That or low doses of steroids, quite common with the nutty fitness community nowdays.

It's very easy to spot a female steroid user, and now they don't need to sound like a man, and look like one. All though this can be the case with high-moderate doses. it's all in the look, and to be frank, women that train naturally will never show any gains in most cases. The ones that do are usually useless fat slobs that slim down. Muscle is what gives shape, and makes men hnnnnnng.

I am not saying women shouldn't lift weights, but at the same time I always lol at the gym culture of w****s. None get results, and it's entirely genetic for them. As I mentioned they don't have the hormones to produce anything significant unless they are into steroids. Avoid these women at all costs. (lol)


Back to the basics.


/off topic rant

 

[kj6723]

It's understandable, I gave up on the gym when I was 19 because I couldn't stand to see my reflection in the countless mirrors.

I thought that since I was tall and not bad looking, building some muscles could get me a great appearance overall.

But after my hair loss started, the motivation wasn't there anymore. I remember a post on hair loss talk at the time which said: "What's the point? Putting make-up on a pig."

So I understand what shookwun means, people who are motivated to improve their appearance are usually people who looked quite good to begin with. They're capitalizing (even more) on their strengths.

Right now, I like the way I look thanks to my hair transplant, I had sex with 16 different women only this year, and I recently landed a permanent contract at my company. I can finally have some long-term peace of mind and I'm thinking about ways of looking and feeling even better, so I'm thinking about lifting weights.

Yet I could do nothing and just be content with my current life, but I want to do better. If I was 5'8, and/or bald and/or ugly, I wouldn't even think about going to the gym, so I understand guys like Dante and cope4life.

Yeah I know. Slayertalk .

At 5'6" having a great physique helps me to have physical presence I would otherwise be lacking (at least I believe it does). I'm not ugly, and my hairloss is mild compared to many on these boards, but I feel I would work out regardless. I have always enjoyed the high and satisfaction I get from lifting, martial arts, and overall fitness challenges. Like shook says I enjoy the overall feeling of improving oneself, striving for greater things and to push myself to new limits

I don't even think about getting laid right now tbh. I've had women pursue me in the last several months but I haven't felt enthusiastic about any of the opportunities and with my transplant around the corner I'm too hesitant to put myself out there

 

[SmoothSailing]

I don't understand where people get this idea that lifting weights will get them laid. it will make almost no difference unless you were borderline aushwitz or severely obese.

I lift weights to look good, that's it. it will help make you more attractive, but wont attribute you to getting laid if you otherwise couldn't before hand.


Lifting weights will however make you feel better about yourself, aid with self-esteem and make you think more objectively. In return more potential dates, and the possibility of getting laid more often as a result.

Where do people get the idea that lifting weights will get them laid?

1. Advice from others, literarily one of the most common pieces of advice people give you after "be confident". I have heard girls giving this advice many times.
2. People do get laid due to going to the gym, as you explained this is often down to how you feel about yourself, but you are still improving your chances. Doesn't matter the reason you are still getting laid more often.
3. Your body is one of the few things you can improve on, whilst it matter far less than face/hair/height it still matters. Some women are big into muscles, most nearly all women are into fit looking bodies. After reaching a decent, lean body then becoming more buff will do little though.


And you are correct, incels who couldn't get laid beforehand will likely not get laid after buffing up, but can you blame them for trying? Or at least improving their chances?

 

[Norwood]

I see mild hair loss in a lot of people in their 20's... but I very rarely see anything past NW4 in any age group

I had a family friend 5 years younger than me who I recently met for the first time in many years. I previously last saw him when he was a cute little blond haired 8 year old kid. Then I saw him again when he was 19 and he was legitimately a NW4/5. I couldn't believe it was him.

 

[CopeForLife]

I had a family friend 5 years younger than me who I recently met for the first time in many years. I previously last saw him when he was a cute little blond haired 8 year old kid. Then I saw him again when he was 19 and he was legitimately a NW4/5. I couldn't believe it was him.

nice nickname to post ratio

 

[blackg]

nice nickname to post ratio

Your new avatar is interesting.

 

[CopeForLife]

Your new avatar is interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/sharishanya

(cope alert)

@Dante92 she is a russian 19o chick living in Italy, you have a chance, don't screw up

exuses not welcomed

 

[resu]

I don't get it, we sure live in strange times.

 

[blackg]

She's not worth that much attention! Damn, she's so plain and bland looking.
Just my opinion, now.

 

[CopeForLife]

She's not worth that much attention! Damn, she's so plain and bland looking.
Just my opinion, now.

I said about inevitable coping.

She isn't stupid btw.

And for sure not plain.

Cope.