Is this the worst time in history to be losing hair?

[uncomfortable man]

Lots of good material in here, so pardon me while I play catch up...

If I was brought up in the 60's or 70's I would've wanted huge hair, it would've been impossible, for me those wouldve been the worst years to lose it.

Although this period was before the media monster took over, it was also a time socially dominated by hair. So much so that they made a musical about it...I cringe when I think of how hypocritical the whole hippie movement was because they touted peace, love and acceptance- as long as you had hair down to your ***. Back then, a bald man to a hippie was the enemy because to them he represented the establishment, which of course it utter BS. Hippycrits I call them.

People have always liked pretty folk, but the media (and, in turn, individuals) has distorted and exagerrated this inclination to the point where we're now taking it to the extreme. I think that many people genuinely consider the ugly to be sightly less human than the good looking.

^^^This is the world we live in. Explains why people stare at me like I have my pants around my ankles all the time. I don't approve of it. I don't condone it, but unlike others on this site I choose to recognize it for what it is instead of ignoring it or even worse, denying it's existence.

Yeah its really gotten to an extreme these days, its built into the social conscience that good looking people are simply better. You'll never see a movie where an ugly guy is the hero and a good looking guy is the villain. You'll never see a company use an advert where their customer is portrayed as some bald fat guy.

This is the mechanism that is the cause of my perpetual torment summed up. It's culture (to elaborate on SAF's point) which the anthropological definition of is TAUGHT AND LEARNED BEHAVIOR THAT IS REINFORCED BY SOCIAL PRACTICES. In this time we live in, the media has become the teacher...and it's "lessons" are fuct. The messages being sent and received are both implicitly and explicitly damning to anyone who does not fit the general mold. Implied by using perfect people to sell any product, no matter how irrelevant (from toothpaste to electronics) to the point where physical perfection is normalized, when the reality is anything but. Explicitly, by using the "defective" people (fat, bald and ugly) to illustrate an inferior product or to just simply cast them as either the looser or the bad guy, which is one in the same since the villains always loose in the end, right? And finally...

Dude, you can't blame hair loss on you ability to get women,
chances are if you can't pick a girl up now, you never could and this is just a nice excuse for you, sure it doesn't help being bald, but confidence is where it is at.
if your worried, shave it all off, complete skin head is still pretty cool, i rock it here and there.
weak people like to make excuses for things that go wrong in their life.
as soon as you accept that you are balding, life gets heaps better, watch curb your enthusiasm, Larry David is the bald leader of the world.

relax, and do you really want a girlfriend that is so image obsessed, that a little hair missing disgusts her??

I'm not going to try to say that confidence in itself counts for nothing. Confidence can't hurt, but it can't replace physical attractiveness by virtue of the fact that human beings are primarily visual creatures. You can't just tell someone to be confident anymore than you can make someone fall in love with you...I wish you can realize that it doesn't work like that. Confidence comes from repeated success and positive reinforcement. So hypothetically speaking, where does the ugly, 300 lb. bald guy who endures frequent ridicule and rejection conjure up this confidence, huh? Just read my quote below if you need more explanation. And Larry David defies the aforementioned status quo by not only accepting his baldness but taking pride in it. But he does so out of resentment of a culture that unfairly judges him for his baldness, so he wears the grown out horseshoe to be "in your face" about it...because he would be the first to tell you that society is filled with "baldists", to use his own term.

 

[Boondock]

I'm not going to try to say that confidence in itself counts for nothing. Confidence can't hurt, but it can't replace physical attractiveness by virtue of the fact that human beings are primarily visual creatures. You can't just tell someone to be confident anymore than you can make someone fall in love with you...I wish you can realize that it doesn't work like that. Confidence comes from repeated success and positive reinforcement. So hypothetically speaking, where does the ugly, 300 lb. bald guy who endures frequent ridicule and rejection conjure up this confidence, huh? Just read my quote below if you need more explanation. And Larry David defies the aforementioned status quo by not only accepting his baldness but taking pride in it. But he does so out of resentment of a culture that unfairly judges him for his baldness, so he wears the grown out horseshoe to be "in your face" about it...because he would be the first to tell you that society is filled with "baldists", to use his own term.

I agree with this, and I also think it's meaningless to tell people to "be confident." What does that actually mean? How can you simply "be confident"?

In reality, confidence is rooted heavily in our interactions with other human beings. Humans are hard-wired to be social creatures. Praise from others makes us feel good; criticism makes us feel bad. We cannot help it any more than we can help feeling hot under the sun.

Those who have natural benefits such as good looks - and, let's face it, great hair is part of that - have their confidence boosted by continual positive feedback. Giggles from girls as they walk by, comments from their male friends saying they're jealous of the attention they get, girls giving them their number with next to no effort. It becomes self-reinforcing, and makes people become confident, and therefore more successful. In the same way constant negative feedback (in the way that UCMan experiences things) can reinforce low self-esteem.

There is a way out of this. It requires that you reject the message that others are putting out and imposing on you. It means that you say "screw it" to the definitions projected and reinforced by others and by society, and that you craft a form of confidence based not on positive feedback but on your own inner resolve.

This can be done, but it is not easy. And it is in a way a lonely and alienating path. It cuts you off from others because you consider their judgements and their ideas to bear no relevance to your own world-view. And, while it can give you a level of confidence up there with the best, it will not remove all of the negative feedback that you got for bad looks - and, again, baldness - in the first place.

Saying "be confident" is to simplify and trivialize the issue beyond measure. It's a lot more complex than that.

 

[Preston]

This is going to sound arrogant , but I think you are focusing too much on the media . The fact that medias have distorted the human image is clear yes but you are forgetting something : they give people what they want , because most of them are DUMB ! And they do NOT CARE AT ALL of other people problems .

/George Carlin mode

 

[Draco88]

Yeah its really gotten to an extreme these days, its built into the social conscience that good looking people are simply better. You'll never see a movie where an ugly guy is the hero and a good looking guy is the villain. You'll never see a company use an advert where their customer is portrayed as some bald fat guy.

Now that you mention it..the villain in the movie 'Kick ***' was bald:

What a coincidence :gay:

Actually, while watching the movie, it never occured to me that this guy being bald was somehow related to him being the main villain, but now that you mention it, it makes sense.

 

[Nene]

Draco are you kidding????? Villains are always bald or have some sort of physical deformity. Off the top of my head here are a few movies I've seen recently with bald bad guys, Iron man, District 13, Daredevil, The Last Dragon, remember in Hook, captain hook was wearing a wig?

 

[s.a.f]

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[Petchsky]

A lot of villains in movies are English too! Except when there are Muslims in the film, then they become the stock bad guys.

 

[Draco88]

^^lol nice one

Draco are you kidding????? Villains are always bald or have some sort of physical deformity. Off the top of my head here are a few movies I've seen recently with bald bad guys, Iron man, District 13, Daredevil, The Last Dragon, remember in Hook, captain hook was wearing a wig?

Ahh! You're right..i can't believe i never picked up on this stuff :smack: :/ now that i remember all those movies, it's a sad reality :sobbing:

@s.a.f, i love that you quoted the hill have eyes

 

[uncomfortable man]

Let's not forget the latest Prince Of Persia movie.

 

[captain_que]

villains are kind of assholes. women like assholes. only displaying my poor sense of humor of course.

 

[sgtpep]

What your all missing is, Bruce willis could kick all of the badies you've just listed in the ***... *** at once..

That dude from Snatch? you know..his character is called Turkish, and hes in the transporter..

Phil Collins won an oscar..

haha so much for inspiration huh?

 

[sgtpep]

This post is directly speaking to Uncomfortable man and Boondock

Confidence is a funny thing.
you can lie to create it.
i'm in no way the most confident person 100% of the time, but when i need to be i can force it, thats confidence... not your ability to talk and woe a women, when something you are having trouble doing (which is commonly what i just mentioned, woeing women..) you fall into a small depression( i did psychology for 2 years and can't remember a damn thing...) what was a saying?
oh yeah.

So for most people with low confidence, it is something they created on their own accord, they go out, watch other guys being successful, reflect on their situation, then reflect on yours, in so get worse, feel depressed, Now you are screwed your mind is tricked into a downward spiral, You want a tip to picking up women??? don't settle for the girl you think will settle for you..... go for the girl 1000x out of your league(all you need to do is show how much effort you put in)... set her as your goal you can;t half arese something like this..


ALTERNATIVE>..


become an alcoholic.. jks,

 

[Draco88]

Let's not forget the latest Prince Of Persia movie.

Oh right, i haven't seen it, but looking through some images, it has the same old bald theme :thumbdown2:

But while we're on the topic of media..for those of you who were watching Survivor: Heroes vs Villains, you'll know that it recently finished. Here in Australia, they aired the last episode/finale tonight, and to cut it short, the three contestants left, well one of them is this guy (Russell) who is bald, yet through out the whole season has been wearing a type of bandana around his head..and one of the other women, despises him. While he's away from the camp, she gets his hat and burns it, and on the side as she's talking to the camera she says "He can walk his bald headed tail right up there...he's got this big bald spot on his head, he doesn't need to hide it, i've seen it many times" she made such an emphasis on the guy being bald, it pissed me off seeing it, and the annoying part is that she won in the end.

 

[dougfunny]

i think the answer to the worst time in history question is.. yes in the respect that media has made people more vain that ever before.

movie stars 30 years ago would do just fine losing some of their hair. look at someone like clint eastwood. today movie stars all seem to have perfect hair.


but it's a good time to be losing your hair since for the first time it is completely manageable. catch it early with propecia or even if you do not hair transplants are really good now. unless you are one of those nw7 by age 30 guys you are going to be able to have a full head of hair.

 

[Boondock]

i think the answer to the worst time in history question is.. yes in the respect that media has made people more vain that ever before.

movie stars 30 years ago would do just fine losing some of their hair. look at someone like clint eastwood. today movie stars all seem to have perfect hair.


but it's a good time to be losing your hair since for the first time it is completely manageable. catch it early with propecia or even if you do not hair transplants are really good now. unless you are one of those nw7 by age 30 guys you are going to be able to have a full head of hair.

Excellent points. Worst-case scenario - as long as you don't go to a bad Doctor - is you end up with a Barry from Eastenders hair transplant. Not dense, and not very far forward, but certainly enough to stop you getting called 'bald' by most of society, and age-appropriate post-35.

 

[Boondock]

Apologies for that huge shot of Barry's mug right there.

 

[KeepTheHair]

I think any time in history it sucks to be bald. Since it just looks like crap.


Right now it is extremely bad though. Since the media is soooooooooooo bad on anyone who doesn't have the perfect look!

 

[Petchsky]

Hey everyone, it's Barry from Eastenders!

You must of found his main portfolio photo that actors dish out to casting agents.

It's not a bad hair transplant, decent, probably as good as you can get in the UK.

 

[Boondock]

Hey everyone, it's Barry from Eastenders!

You must of found his main portfolio photo that actors dish out to casting agents.

It's not a bad hair transplant, decent, probably as good as you can get in the UK.

It works. You wouldn't see him on the street and think of him as "that bald guy". (Well, we would probably analyze his hair to death. But nobody normal would.)

Agreed that this is a good result, in fact as good as some American docs do. He looks 5 years younger than when he was in Eastenders - and that was a decade ago. I think it's Farjo's work. He did Duncan Bannatyne too, I believe.

 

[Nene]

Not a bad result with that dudes mug I don't think it matters if you have hair or not.