Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[whatevr]

Dude in which world this is shedding? This was me some months ago and this is what I would call shedding.

If your pull test from any area of the head goes from 1 hair pulled, to 7 or 8 in that picture, that is a very statistically significant increase in shedding, 700%. That's a reason to worry in my opinion.

I pulled all that in just one attempt and you are comparing it to a photo of your shower where you are washing your head for 5 minutes or something. We are talking relative amounts here not absolute.

i think some people here should stay away from water too, it can cause sides if the mind wants it to.

I think some people here should refrain from commenting other people's experiences especially if they lack even a cursory understanding of biology and pharmacodynamics of the molecules involved in this lotion.

Placebo effect is in full force here it seems, going to get slated for this but people saying they are having sides after a week on it is just ridiculous in my humble opinion, its directed topical with a mild dht inhibitor, some guys saying they are giving up after a week, how the f*** do you expect a topical to work in a week, i know brotzu said shedding stops after 7 days but you are still going to lose hairs naturally.

^ That is a good example of what I just said. I didn't say I am giving up after a week, I will try to finish the two bottles that I have, but that I have side effects is a fact and several other people on the Italian forum have also stated that. Not really sure what "having sides after a week" vs "having sides after 30 minutes" has to do with anything - equol penetrates through the skin within less than an hour and immediately enters the bloodstream, there are short term side effects of DHT binding and long term side effects. Things like gyno and ball ache could be classified as short term because they don't take long to appear. Some of us here also have PFS and are already compromised by permanent Finasteride sides which muddies the terrain so medications which would not affect a healthy person, tend to impact us noticeably.

 

[irishlad8787]

Considering i have a degree in biology and now work in developing pharmaceuticals i will post my opinion when i want to on this subject. Common sense will tell you if somebody is saying they are experiencing sides after a few days from a topical its nonsense, the same people were more than likely the ones thinking beforehand about eqoul sides, the mind is a powerful tool to some.

 

[irishlad8787]

Im not disputing finasteride sides btw, i got some myself but we are talking about a weak topical here giving sides after a few days totally different story.

 

[whatevr]

If you do actually have a degree in biology you should be more open minded and inquisitive. Having a classic knee-jerk response to information that doesn't agree with your preconceived notion of how things happen in the world, is very much anti-science.

I'm not sure why it's such an impossible concept - if it is a 'weak' topical then it won't do much for hair loss either. If it can stop people's shedding in its tracks clearly it is a little bit more than just weak. We don't really know what the possible effects of topical equol entering the bloodstream without oral metabolism (so you cannot compare this to equol pills or soy consumption) really are.

As I said, this is my experience, I am talking daily to several people who are using this and NOT having any side effects, so obviously this will not happen to everyone. I'm not sure why me sharing my experience is causing such a negative reaction in some people.

 

[irishlad8787]

Its not a knee jerk response, the placebo effect is the most likely scenario in this case in my opinion and from what i have seen in my experience in my job. Just my opinion man. We can agree to disagree but a few days to get sides or expect to see hair improvement as some people expect and report from a topical is nonsensical.

 

[Arrade]

If you do actually have a degree in biology you should be more open minded and inquisitive. Having a classic knee-jerk response to information that doesn't agree with your preconceived notion of how things happen in the world, is very much anti-science.

I'm not sure why it's such an impossible concept - if it is a 'weak' topical then it won't do much for hair loss either. If it can stop people's shedding in its tracks clearly it is a little bit more than just weak. We don't really know what the possible effects of topical equol entering the bloodstream without oral metabolism (so you cannot compare this to equol pills or soy consumption) really are.

As I said, this is my experience, I am talking daily to several people who are using this and NOT having any side effects, so obviously this will not happen to everyone. I'm not sure why me sharing my experience is causing such a negative reaction in some people.

He doesn’t understand what happens when something goes thru the skin into the bloodstream lol

 

[Arrade]

Its not a knee jerk response, the placebo effect is the most likely scenario in this case in my opinion and from what i have seen in my experience in my job. Just my opinion man. We can agree to disagree but a few days to get sides or expect to see hair improvement as some people expect and report from a topical is nonsensical.

Why is heart palpitations a listed side effect of foam Minoxidil? Because it penetrates the skin into the blood stream. Then it immediately acts

 

[irishlad8787]

Please post some more bro-science, you are a fool, and most guys on here think the same. All you do is copy and past sh*t from google. Your opinion is about as useful as a bull without balls.

 

[irishlad8787]

Why is heart palpitations a listed side effect of foam Minoxidil? Because it penetrates the skin into the blood stream. Then it immediately acts

If somebody in a clinical trial reports it they have to list it. Pharma companies pray that they dont get hypochondriacs in there trials.

 

[Arrade]

If somebody in a clinical trial reports it they have to list it. Pharma companies pray that they dont get hypochondriacs in there trials.

“There trials”
It was literally a blood pressure medication that was put into a topical solution... bro science it causes heart effects tho.

If you want to blindly trust someone like Merck who made 100 billion in revenue in 2017 to care about your health over their profits... gl

 

[irishlad8787]

Still had to do trials, and i already said i believe finasteride can cause sides as i experienced them but for people to say that trinov after a couple of days is causing ball ache, is ridiculous. Look stupid argument nobody can win this but i know i will be sleeping easy and not worried about sides after i apply my trinov.

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

This is hilarious

 

[layabout]

“There trials”
It was literally a blood pressure medication that was put into a topical solution... bro science it causes heart effects tho.

If you want to blindly trust someone like Merck who made 100 billion in revenue in 2017 to care about your health over their profits... gl

very little topically applied minoxidil even gets absorbed lol

claiming to have huge sides from minoxidil is just being an utter hypochondriac

 

[Arrade]

very little topically applied minoxidil even gets absorbed lol

claiming to have huge sides from minoxidil is just being an utter hypochondriac

Do you have a study of how "little" gets absorbed

 

[Ollie]

Calling genuine sides on Trinov is like someone punching you in the nuts, falling to the ground and moaning ... 'sh*t..it must be the Trinov'.

11.3mg of s-equol in an entire bottle and some fatty acids literally cant be giving sides, although on the flip side the same logic would mean it wont be doing much for our hair either lol.

 

[Arrade]

@layabout it's people like you that let me want to allow you all to squander. Good luck dood3s

 

[Rock12]

Do you have a study of how "little" gets absorbed

Lol I was just about to ask the same question lol.

 

[Arrade]

Calling genuine sides on Trinov is like someone punching you in the nuts, falling to the ground and moaning ... 'sh*t..it must be the Trinov'.

11.3mg of s-equol in an entire bottle and some fatty acids literally cant be giving sides, although on the flip side the same logic would mean it wont be doing much for our hair either lol.

Mate DGLA affects the 5 ar enzyme, you put it on the scalp and it flows to the brain via the scalp's arteries... I haven't tried it but man I got sides from topical coconut oil... the lineolic and lauric acid gave me brain fog from inhibiting 5ar
If you ate 11.3 mg s eqoul that's one thing, but putting in directly into the blood stream through skin absorption, by the brain which the brain decides what hormones the body should produce.. who knows

 

[Arrade]

I swear people gaslight themselves into putting up with side effects

 

[Rock12]

very little topically applied minoxidil even gets absorbed lol

claiming to have huge sides from minoxidil is just being an utter hypochondriac

Yea where can we find that study that shows very little getting absorbed ?