Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Rolandconil]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Wait guys has anyone actually tried to get some oil from actual snakes to try on their heads for male pattern baldness???? What if it works via some inflammatory response mediation? Ha ha ha.

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[Armando Jose]

Brotzu has a very high reputation not only because his father won a Nobel prize for discovering cephalosporines

Brotzu don`t won Nobel Prize, he was candidate in 1948

 

[RU serious]

I just wanted to share with you guys that recently I had another conversation with Brotzu (Giovanni) via mail, in which I asked him some questions.

He told me that next month he will be at SITRI's and his speech will be on the 14th of April at 17.15 Italian time (as we already knew).
He will speak for FIDIA, presenting the results focused on Androgenetic Alopecia.
He doesn't know about the release date / commercialization, although he is convinced it's coming very soon, but he repeats that as of now he has not official infos regarding this aspect.
He said that stability issues are solved, the lotion is stable at room temperature and doesn't need refrigeration.
Then he said, when I asked, that FIDIA's trials confirmed what he always said about the effectiveness and his first results.


That's all and I did not ask him any more questions.


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Brotzu has a very high reputation not only because his father won a Nobel prize for discovering cephalosporines, but because he is known all over the world and especially in EU for his vascular studies and discoveries, he was president during his life of most of the most important teams and scientific associations regarding to that matter.

Fidia was a very potent pharma back in the years, and raised even more when they developed a drug called "Cronassial", which became worldwide famous. Unfortunately, there was a very big scandal regarding that drug which was later discovered associated with the insurgency of a rare disease, you can search on Wikipedia. In this scandal was involved also Rita Levi Montalcini, one of Italy's Nobel Prize who associated with Fidia and promoted the drug even though she did not discover it or invented it, nor was originally associated with cronassial.

Since that scandal, Fidia was re-founded various times under different CEOs, and its goal was to regain back the trust of the consumers after the Cronassial scandal, and step by step they are now the legit 4th largest pharma of Italy with a very transparent income, outcome and capital. They are even privately held and they don't have the need to publish shitty "results" or "communicates" every new year saying the same things just to attract investors and raise money... (*coff coff* Histogen *coff* Replicel *coff*)

Brotzu is associated with Fidia only in the way that the company bought the patent for first from the doctor. Right now Fidia only is leading the hyaluronic acid market but it's expanding a lot in all of other fields, such as dermatology and oftalmology.



I think most of us would kill each other if that would be needed to even partially regrow some of THEIR hair back, even though that would mean to throw in the bin Toppik & co and to shave / have a buzzcut while waiting for the results to kick in.

The lotion dries very fast, doesn't make the hair dirty or oily after application and it's easy washable away with water only. This was said by the doctor and confirmed by all of the Areata testers I contacted.



LOL, yeah, because the newspapers are sooo scientific in their articles...
Some weeks ago that stuff about "McDonald' s" fries against baldness was in the front page of all newspapers from all over the world!
Did you forget also about the numerous scams that you may fall into by simply typing "baldness cure" on Google, even if you opened only the trustworthy newspapers' links?

In the Impact section there's a thread specifically for posting beautiful women. But never has a post on HairLossTalk made me so erect.

 

[Badbald]

Brotzu has absolutely nothing to do with the commercialization of the lotion. Nada. He is doing the Androgenetic Alopecia presentation because he invented the lotion and probably knows most about it (I doubt the regular joe at Fidia knows much about how it works). Brotzu has sold the patent to Fidia, and from there he isn't much involved anymore. He probably expects the lotion to be released soon since all the steps have been taken in order to commercialize it. Wasn't it at the end of the month that the patent will be granted? Isn't that one of the final steps (this is more a question of mine to the more knowledgeable people on the technicalities of commercializing a cosmetic)? Anyway, it could be possible that Fidia hasn't got an exact release date yet but as how things are looking, I believe the summer claim by Beps is very plausible. *Do note that I am in no way an expert on this and this is just my evaluation.

Well I was going off of 7th senses email "He will speak for FIDIA" . You doubt the regular joe at Fidia know much about how it works? I think the people who are commercialising the lotion probably know alot about how it works. Im not really sure about the patent though. The release date could be far further away then the summer if they haven't had the ball rolling for a while in terms of production, packaging, sales etc it takes a long time to bring a new compound to the market: having the actual compound mass produced and available to buy, I wish it was a quick process but from what I understand its not

 

[sunchyme1]

bump for italian hair loss lotion thread

 

[Trouse]

If this will be released in summer means until august I like every post in this thread

Two things:
Any hint (eg interview) that this might improve your hair even if you are on big 3?
Second, I doubt it will turn vellus hair in terminal. Sounds impossible to me. I think a bit thickening is realistic aka minoxidil

Minoxidil turns vellus hairs terminal. Thousands of people (myself included) have used it on the face to grow beards from previously totally bald areas. The problem with it on the scalp is that it has to combat and overcome the progressive nature of male pattern baldness, which is a losing battle after a certain period of time. If this lotion can simply halt male pattern baldness with slight regrowth and thickening, I'll be jumping for goddamned joy.

 

[vegetassj]

Yes ur right. Forgot that fight dht thing.

 

[Aliens]

The issue we will face is deopping out our big 3 for the brotzu lotion. I do not know but I think I will still stay on finasteride for 6 months just in case before reducing dosage.
Now, I am not sure this lotion could get along well with minoxidil or wounding.
I do not know to be honest what to do in case results from trials are good and the lotion is out.

 

[TK421]

The issue we will face is deopping out our big 3 for the brotzu lotion. I do not know but I think I will still stay on finasteride for 6 months just in case before reducing dosage.
Now, I am not sure this lotion could get along well with minoxidil or wounding.
I do not know to be honest what to do in case results from trials are good and the lotion is out.

Did you get an answer to your question regarding the Brotzu formula containing propylene glycol? I'm also curious about this.

What I want to know is will it be sold online? Or would we need to take a trip to Italy.

Good question, I'm also hoping someone can answer this.

 

[Appletree101]

Reminder for all of us outside of Europe:

Set up an account with an Italian package forwarder so you can get this sent to you in case the product is only sold domestically or in Europe. It's free and really easy.

 

[Alternative]

it takes a long time to bring a new compound to the market: having the actual compound mass produced and available to buy, I wish it was a quick process but from what I understand its not

Yes it does take a long time, but consider the fact that most of the steps had been done:
1. Looks like that they managed to solve all of the issues concerning stability and patent.
2. Nobody knows, maybe they are already doing packaging and mass production.
3. Medical products are not hyped, they are hyped after they are already on the shelves. They are not video games, nobody gives status updates on them going "gold (ready)" for mass production.
4. Even snake oil is most often hyped (commercials and sh*t) after it is already out.

 

[DVXYZ]

Reminder for all of us outside of Europe:

Set up an account with an Italian package forwarder so you can get this sent to you in case the product is only sold domestically or in Europe. It's free and really easy.

Where/How can you go about setting one of these up?

 

[Dangman]

The biggest issues are already resolved. The patent has been paid and stabilization has been dealt with during 2017. Production and distribution is something that can be handled much faster. And like Alternative has said, this is not a game or a movie. The best marketing it can get is through dermatologists, hence why attending Sitri is always a given.

 

[Bklyn_23]

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I think most of us would kill each other if that would be needed to even partially regrow some of THEIR hair back, even though that would mean to throw in the bin Toppik & co and to shave / have a buzzcut while waiting for the results to kick in.

The lotion dries very fast, doesn't make the hair dirty or oily after application and it's easy washable away with water only. This was said by the doctor and confirmed by all of the Areata testers I contacted.

Thanks for the information, and also for the new info from Brotzu.

 

[whatevr]

The issue we will face is deopping out our big 3 for the brotzu lotion. I do not know but I think I will still stay on finasteride for 6 months just in case before reducing dosage.
Now, I am not sure this lotion could get along well with minoxidil or wounding.
I do not know to be honest what to do in case results from trials are good and the lotion is out.

I'm not on Finasteride since 2016, just using Minoxidil. So I will happily add it and increase my results if it works. The whole purpose of this lotion for me is to not have to use archaic garbage like Finasteride. I know some people will use them concurrently to improve their results. Personally, if it can maintain what I have I will be happy with that.

 

[Badbald]

Yes it does take a long time, but consider the fact that most of the steps had been done:
1. Looks like that they managed to solve all of the issues concerning stability and patent.
2. Nobody knows, maybe they are already doing packaging and mass production.
3. Medical products are not hyped, they are hyped after they are already on the shelves. They are not video games, nobody gives status updates on them going "gold (ready)" for mass production.
4. Even snake oil is most often hyped (commercials and sh*t) after it is already out.

Im not referring to the actual marketing itself of the product which I guess is what you mean by hype, I mean the logistics of having very large quantity's of the lotion ready to go and having distributors for it. Lets hope it comes out sooner then later though

 

[Eazy12]

You're a very sad man. And no, that is not analogous at all

What's sadder is jumping for joy at any inkling of shady news on this stuff. Acting like its life or death is sad. But more power to ya little man

 

[Eazy12]

Brotzu don`t won Nobel Prize, he was candidate in 1948

Quoting and making this bold so the bald can finally let it sink in. This fact seems to get overlooked far too often.
B-b-b-ut n-n-nobel prize!!!11. Simmer down, it isn't even true.

 

[INT]

Quoting and making this bold so the bald can finally let it sink in. This fact seems to get overlooked far too often.
B-b-b-ut n-n-nobel prize!!!11. Simmer down, it isn't even true.

Exactly. Even if it would be true it would absolutely mean sh*t. Nothing more than a prime example of an authority fallacy.

 

[kj6723]

The issue we will face is deopping out our big 3 for the brotzu lotion. I do not know but I think I will still stay on finasteride for 6 months just in case before reducing dosage.
Now, I am not sure this lotion could get along well with minoxidil or wounding.
I do not know to be honest what to do in case results from trials are good and the lotion is out.

I'm not dropping sh*t for any of these new things until we know they effectively give maintenance for YEARS for 99%+ of people. If they ever actually come out I will add them to my regimen in the meantime, but no way I'm just cold turkey quitting finasteride based on the short term data we have