It's over for most guys. Hair is extremely important

[whatintheworld]

I have seen some bald and ugly guys get women indeed.

The point is, is this an outlier or the norm? Discussing outliers is a pointless effort.

A useful discussion is, on average, how much will a person be affected by this disease? If you take your individual case, you may be average, below average, or above average. Of course statistically speaking, let's assume you to be average as it is the most likely outcome.

I posit that up to Norwood 3 this condition has almost 0 effect on your life. Up to that point you are just using it as an excuse for your other problems in life, and being a straight up lazy b**ch. Nobody really categorizes people by Norwood levels in their head. It is more so, bald or not bald. At least before I started losing hair this is how I thought of things. I thought people who were losing hair just had a bad haircut for whatever reason.

However, after Norwood 3, I posit that it has a much higher, negative impact on your life (on average). I think there are plenty of studies that can show this, and of course user accounts as well.

Especially if you are in your twenties, and attempting to date women in your age range or younger.

Fortunately, transplant technology with elite surgeons can bring almost anyone back to Norwood 3, thus making all excuses void. Now it is just a matter of saving up $ and getting it done.

The severe DUPA Norwood 7 guys are the true martyrs here.

 

[Moosey]

I posit that up to Norwood 3 this condition has almost 0 effect on your life. Up to that point you are just using it as an excuse for your other problems in life, and being a straight up lazy b**ch.

This is what a good chunk of all the people on this forum do. Blame everything on their hairloss and stop doing everything else because its pointless without hair.

 

[Casey4193]

No disrespect but I have to disagree somewhat with this post. Very aggressive hair loss runs on one side of my family. I have 5 male cousins on that side. One was Norwood 6 by age 25. His brothers all started balding later but he has always had far hotter GFs and has the hottest wife by far of all them. He has always had the best personality, fun, outgoing, awesome sense of humor. He shaved his head by 20, got fit and muscular, grew a goatee and girls LOVE him. Women like CONFIDENCE no matter what and great personality is huge. Sure, there will always be a certain percentage of either sex who only date based on looks but don’t judge every woman based on a few. Women are looking for good husband material and often times men who are uber good looking do not make good mates as they are too self centered and women pick up on this from a mile away.

 

[Casey4193]

No disrespect but I have to disagree somewhat with this post. Very aggressive hair loss runs on one side of my family. I have 5 male cousins on that side. One was Norwood 6 by age 25. His brothers all started balding later but he has always had far hotter GFs and has the hottest wife by far of all them. He has always had the best personality, fun, outgoing, awesome sense of humor. He shaved his head by 20, got fit and muscular, grew a goatee and girls LOVE him. Women like CONFIDENCE no matter what and great personality is huge. Sure, there will always be a certain percentage of either sex who only date based on looks but don’t judge every woman based on a few. Women are looking for good husband material and often times men who are uber good looking do not make good mates as they are too self centered and women pick up on this from a mile away.

P.S. I know this because I’m a woman

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

No disrespect but I have to disagree somewhat with this post. Very aggressive hair loss runs on one side of my family. I have 5 male cousins on that side. One was Norwood 6 by age 25. His brothers all started balding later but he has always had far hotter GFs and has the hottest wife by far of all them. He has always had the best personality, fun, outgoing, awesome sense of humor. He shaved his head by 20, got fit and muscular, grew a goatee and girls LOVE him. Women like CONFIDENCE no matter what and great personality is huge. Sure, there will always be a certain percentage of either sex who only date based on looks but don’t judge every woman based on a few. Women are looking for good husband material and often times men who are uber good looking do not make good mates as they are too self centered and women pick up on this from a mile away.

Sounds like some of the trans cohort: "oh, I don't need beard removal. I can just make it work with my attitude and confidence". But perhaps your male cousin is hung huge. That's always an equalizer as is MONEY.

 

[Moosey]

P.S. I know this because I’m a woman

You are talking to a bunch of miserable losers. Every normal adult guy knows this. There is no point trying to convince these people. Go to page 7 and see how im refuting one of the guys with real life examples and hes still stubborn with his attitude. Dont even bother

 

[czecha]

A few months ago it was a great forum to be on, but great members like Wolf Pack and Matty have moved on with their lives and the incel community has invaded it.

Honestly I don't even know what I'm doing here myself, I'm just bored and waiting for my scalp to recover after a transplant.

So you ldar waiting for hair(looks)

 

[czecha]

Yeah after i gathered all the knowledge and information i needed to combat hairloss and i started arguing with fucked up incels instead (like i just did now) is when i realized im just wasting my time here. I just feel sorry for the people here, some of them teenagers, because they are sorrounded by pathetic assholes like this guy. They come here to look for solutions and they are freaking out about hairloss to begin with, and what they get to read is this piece of sh*t posting stuff like "lol life is over if you dont have hair, its an impossibility to get girls without hair and height aye lmao @ your face just kill yourself" or whatever these insects repeat over and over again.
And its not like theres alot of good information being posted here anymore. Its always just incel talk or an army of BDD teenagers with thick NW0 hairlines with a legitimate 2000-post history, uploading 100 pictures of their NW0 hairlines trying to convince everyone that they do indeed suffer from hairloss so they can feel justified chopping off their balls or whatever the plan is

Didnt read past the first sentence but you need 700 msgs to figure out to take finasteride and minoxidil?xD

 

[czecha]

What does it matter dude. Hes clean shaven. He has no hair to show off, to look cool, at any point. Yeah it'll look abit less good when he actually loses more hair because he'll have less tiny black dots on his clean shaven bald head, bohoo. Dont strawman here. This guy has no hair and is 5'7" and he fucked more hot girls than you and i have shook hands with. End of the story.
If you want to tell yourself its because hes a clean shaven NW3 instead of a clean shaven NW4 then do that.

On the pic he has a frame for his face that is just good enough still to not be considered bald by normies
Probably 1cm3 more and he is incel. You will see

 

[czecha]

I have seen some bald and ugly guys get women indeed.

The point is, is this an outlier or the norm? Discussing outliers is a pointless effort.

A useful discussion is, on average, how much will a person be affected by this disease? If you take your individual case, you may be average, below average, or above average. Of course statistically speaking, let's assume you to be average as it is the most likely outcome.

I posit that up to Norwood 3 this condition has almost 0 effect on your life. Up to that point you are just using it as an excuse for your other problems in life, and being a straight up lazy b**ch. Nobody really categorizes people by Norwood levels in their head. It is more so, bald or not bald. At least before I started losing hair this is how I thought of things. I thought people who were losing hair just had a bad haircut for whatever reason.

However, after Norwood 3, I posit that it has a much higher, negative impact on your life (on average). I think there are plenty of studies that can show this, and of course user accounts as well.

Especially if you are in your twenties, and attempting to date women in your age range or younger.

Fortunately, transplant technology with elite surgeons can bring almost anyone back to Norwood 3, thus making all excuses void. Now it is just a matter of saving up $ and getting it done.

The severe DUPA Norwood 7 guys are the true martyrs here.

Correct, and op claimed his friend is bald and slays at 5*7. nw3 is still hair to people

I already knew this can’t be true. Impressive nevertheless to slay at this height at nw3, but at 3.5 it’s over for him. 100%. If you deny this, you are blind to reality

 

[justinbieberscombover]

So you ldar waiting for hair(looks)

Pretty much, but I also have a decent paying job and hobbies that keep me busy. In the meantime I also hired a personal trainer and gained some muscle mass, had laser surfacing sessions for my skin, successfully darkened and thickened my eyebrows, bought a whole new wardrobe..

I'm starting to get a little dopamine rush when I look in the mirror now that I'm so close to reaching my goal. Looks were always important to me, from a young age I always loved getting attention and compliments for my looks. And hair was always a big part of it and my identity in general.

 

[Casey4193]

P.S. I know this because I’m a woman

Sounds like some of the trans cohort: "oh, I don't need beard removal. I can just make it work with my attitude and confidence". But perhaps your male cousin is hung huge. That's always an equalizer as is MONEY.

No, it’s not money- my cousin is not rich. And when he was meeting and dating all those hot girls initially they had no idea how he was hung, right? He attracted them an amazing personality,fitness, and sense of humor. Lot of people underestimate the attraction of confidence and a great sense of humor in getting women. If I had to choose one trait that attracts women it is not looks at all. If you can make her laugh she will start finding you attractive even if she didn’t at first. Believe me on this guys.

 

[czecha]

No, it’s not money- my cousin is not rich. And when he was meeting and dating all those hot girls initially they had no idea how he was hung, right? He attracted them an amazing personality,fitness, and sense of humor. Lot of people underestimate the attraction of confidence and a great sense of humor in getting women. If I had to choose one trait that attracts women it is not looks at all. If you can make her laugh she will start finding you attractive even if she didn’t at first. Believe me on this guys.

hung = insane confidence, energy, big dick vibe. women know

 

[justinbieberscombover]

No, it’s not money- my cousin is not rich. And when he was meeting and dating all those hot girls initially they had no idea how he was hung, right? He attracted them an amazing personality,fitness, and sense of humor. Lot of people underestimate the attraction of confidence and a great sense of humor in getting women. If I had to choose one trait that attracts women it is not looks at all. If you can make her laugh she will start finding you attractive even if she didn’t at first. Believe me on this guys.

Being funny should be a natural trait though, if a guy here forces it he'll just become awkward, annoying and a tryhard

The guys who are the most successful with girls are often boring and have zero game. This is the truth. They just stand there and let girls notice them and gossip to their friends about how cute and hot they are, and then those girls approach them by themselves. I have witnessed this and even been told this by those guys themselves plenty of times.

Back when I was in my teens and early 20's it happened to me sometimes as well. Also even last year after the 2nd transplant there were girls who found my social media and messaged me themselves after looking at my pics without me even doing anything.

 

[czecha]

Being funny should be a natural trait though, if a guy here forces it he'll just become awkward, annoying and a tryhard

The guys who are the most successful with girls are often boring and have zero game. This is the truth. They just stand there and let girls notice them and gossip to their friends about how cute and hot they are, and then those girls approach them by themselves. I have witnessed this and even been told this by those guys themselves plenty of times.

Back when I was in my teens and early 20's it happened to me sometimes as well. Also even last year after the 2nd transplant there were girls who found my social media and messaged me themselves after looking at my pics without me even doing anything.

if girls don't dm you first on social media, you are not attractive
if you have to try, you are not attractive

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Here are the Photofeeler results of my best pic (only girls 29 and under could vote)..

This is without game or showing personality or anything

 

[czecha]

Here are the Photofeeler results of my best pic (only girls 29 and under could vote)..

This is without game or showing personality or anything

View attachment 158614

you probably look thick nw1 in the picture when irl you look diffuse nw5 with nw1 hairline

 

[justinbieberscombover]

you probably look thick nw1 in the picture when irl you look diffuse nw5 with nw1 hairline

The pic is old, I look NW2-ish.

With NW1 I will get better results, it will be a more dense hairline as well.

My hairline actually looks pretty good most of the time irl, it's everything behind it that's a problem lol.

 

[czecha]

The pic is old, I look NW2-ish.

With NW1 I will get better results, it will be a more dense hairline as well.

My hairline actually looks pretty good most of the time irl, it's everything behind it that's a problem lol.

yeah your hairline looks great in the pic you sent me. but irl you need thick hair. i doubt your photo on feeler transported. your level of diffuse baldness. if it did, you wouldn't have these results without a ljungberg tier face

 

[321nickname123]

@ OP, fine that you want to give your opinion. But to portray it as being the truth / facts is the epitomy of sadness.
Be successful in life. Study, graduate, get a decent job. Work on your mental and physical fitness. See a psychologist if needed.
If you don't do this, well... your life will be sad indeed. But it doesn't need to be. It is all your choice. Good luck.