Just Tried Regenera Activa Stem Cell Microtransplant In Uk

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Aaaaand a repeated quote further confirming that you failed to make reference to current drug treatments as a duel-therapy with stem cell procedures.
and another post of you being dense as sh*t

my original quote did not include reference to using finasteride in conjunction with this treatment for 2 obvious reasons to anyone who has been following this thread
A) Many users in here are looking at this procedure to potentially get maintenance without the use of finasteride, as not everybody wants to go the hormonal route
B) It is common sense to every single person on this forum that any treatment will be enhanced with finasteride, once again, no f*****g sh*t, sherlock

However as I said I did not bother alluding to this fact because unlike you I do not get off on coming into threads and posting blindingly obvious information expecting to get a virtual pat on the back
 

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A) Many users in here are looking at this procedure to potentially get maintenance without the use of finasteride, as not everybody wants to go the hormonal route

This is exactly why i said it...

Reminding those who don't necessarily know much about Androgenetic Alopecia and the available treatments that even with this treatment type you might still need to pursue other avenues even for maintenance.
 

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This is exactly why i said it...

Reminding those who don't necessarily know much about Androgenetic Alopecia and the available treatments that even with this treatment type you might still need to pursue other avenues even for maintenance.
....I am referring to the regulars in this thread who all know about Androgenetic Alopecia and CHOOSE not to use finasteride for whatever personal reasons they have, as I said, people who are looking to get maintenance without the need of finasteride

....you can't possibly be this dense, can you?
 

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....I am referring to the regulars in this thread who all know about Androgenetic Alopecia and CHOOSE not to use finasteride for whatever personal reasons they have, as I said, people who are looking to get maintenance without the need of finasteride

The vast majority of traffic to this forum is lurkers. For them my comment is relevant you egotistical retard.
 

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The vast majority of traffic to this forum is lurkers. For them my comment is relevant you egotistical retard.
LOL

Nobody:

Absolutely nobody:

Not one single soul, I promise you:

Ollie: "oMG bUt diD yOU gUyS kNOw FiNaSTeRiDe cAn hELp YOuR hAiRrr" "iT'S sYnErGy bRo"
 

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Yep, this looks shady af. Just look at this video /watch?v=2hnJ8c640Gc from Nida Cosmetic. I seriously doubt such improvement can actually be obtained with this Regenera Activa (+100% hair density and thickness in 4 months)...

Pulling the numbers out of thin f*****g air they are. Not that the actual company behind regenera is any better in that regard
 

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Isolate HFSC's from hormonally resistant follicles in rear part of the scalp, spin in a centrifuge to collect concentrated cell suspension - inject. HFSC's then aid to rejuvenate the health of the follicles which cell structures are otherwise being damaged from hormonally influenced chronic inflammation. Not a huge amount to understand is there..

If like most guys on this forum you have aggressive balding then this treatment will be useless as a standalone because of the lack of cell count.

The only chance of stem cell treatments working as mono-therapy will be if you can use an infinite amount of cells like shiseido are doing on a regular basis - considering all of their patients dropped to baseline within 2 years (most within 1) in the safety trials.

They don't spin it in a centrifuge to concentrate the cell suspension. They stick it in a relatively gentle blender to separate the tissue into cells, but the suspension stays dilute.

Other than the fact that you didn't understand the procedure I more or less agree though
 

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LOL

Nobody:

Absolutely nobody:

Not one single soul, I promise you:

Ollie: "oMG bUt diD yOU gUyS kNOw FiNaSTeRiDe cAn hELp YOuR hAiRrr" "iT'S sYnErGy bRo"

Amazing you were able to multi task the shift key so well considering you were dropped on your head so much as a kid.
 

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Here's an update, I had a consultation at a local clinic regarding this procedure, I asked them some standard questions, below are their replies :

For how long have you been treating patients with Regenera Activa?
About 2 years

How many patients have you treated with Regenera Activa?
About 10 (!) (I was a bit surprised at this, being a specialised hair clinic in a big city I expected the number to be much higher. As far as I could see they don't actively promote Regenera at the clinic (no posters or leaflets in the waiting room, they had some for PRP), though it is advertised on their website, and they do a lot of different hair procedures (including PRP, microneedling sessions, and hair transplants)

What's the follow-up after the treatment?
They measure hair density and thickness (hair diameter) under microscope at 3 month and 9 month. Regenera procedure should be renewed within 1 to 3 years

What have been the results so far?
Doctor said the patients had been responding well, mainly with increased thickness

Any secondary effects, shedding?
No

Does the treatment create scars?
No

Doctor confirmed I was a suitable candidate (diffuse thinning, not too agressive) and made it clear that while visible cosmetic improvement should be expected, this was not a miracle cure that would start regrowing lots of lost hairs. He also advised to continue current treatments (finasteride and minoxidil)

As a result I'm still undecided, I appreciated the clinic's honesty and the doctor really seemed to have my best interests at heart (not trying to oversell anything), at the same time I'm hesitant due to the low number of Regenera procedures done at the clinic : clearly it's a much simpler procedure than a hair transplant, but still I'd like to be confident that the doctor performing the procedure has enough experience with it to get maximum results
 

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Question for you guys. My scalp skin is very thin, especially on the crown area (where I'm thinning).

1. Is your skin on the scalp also very thin?
2. Could this (thin skin) be the reason of the thinning?
3. Are they able to inject the cells into such a thin layer of skin?
 

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Question for you guys. My scalp skin is very thin, especially on the crown area (where I'm thinning).

1. Is your skin on the scalp also very thin?
2. Could this (thin skin) be the reason of the thinning?
3. Are they able to inject the cells into such a thin layer of skin?

No but they described it as "hard" and they take into account the condition of your skin when they're injecting. It's more likely a result of the balding process than a cause. If you're going for this that's not what I'd worry about - do you microneedle?
 

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I really cant wait for clinics to perfect this procedure and even decrease the price.
It's all I've always dreamed for. One procedure every 1-2 years. Maintenance with thickening. Bye pills. Bye minixidil every flipping night.
 

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I really cant wait for clinics to perfect this procedure and even decrease the price.
It's all I've always dreamed for. One procedure every 1-2 years. Maintenance with thickening. Bye pills. Bye minixidil every flipping night.

I don't think this procedure will be around long enough to be "perfected" if that's even possible. It'll soon be phased out by a treatment that involves cell culture, like what HairClone is doing, or RCH if Shiseido ever release. I think the cell count here is just too low for most people to have much to gain.
 

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I don't think this procedure will be around long enough to be "perfected" if that's even possible. It'll soon be phased out by a treatment that involves cell culture, like what HairClone is doing, or RCH if Shiseido ever release. I think the cell count here is just too low for most people to have much to gain.

If it is phased out that'd be good news. As long as there's one treatment out there that works and it is affordable..
 

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All depends on how aggressive you bald. For some fina or duta isn't enough to get maintenance, so of course this won't help them either.

For low Norwood's and early balders, regenera is definitely worth a try imo.

Sorry but how about you try it like you say you will before you keep singing its praises and recommending it to people and declaring who is and isn't a good candidate?

It's an incredibly simple procedure which is grossly overpriced and the studies in favour of its effectiveness are dubious to say the least. It's 99% marketing with a slight chance of delaying the inevitable, so the company and clinicians are a dishonest group and really deserve minimal credit at this stage.
 

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It's an incredibly simple procedure which is grossly overpriced and the studies in favour of its effectiveness are dubious to say the least. It's 99% marketing with a slight chance of delaying the inevitable, so the company and clinicians are a dishonest group and really deserve minimal credit at this stage.

Aouch, coming from a guinea pig who underwent the procedure a couple weeks ago, it hurts.Still no beneficial effect to report I assume then...?
 
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