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the results in the pics are really not impressing. But if it's just for maintaining, it's hard to make pics.I got this from a Clinic in Dubai
the results in the pics are really not impressing. But if it's just for maintaining, it's hard to make pics.I got this from a Clinic in Dubai
before we start the typical hairlosstalk cycle of "its a scam" "doesnt work" "waste of money" i would
A) Like to see before and after pics provided by those claiming to have the surgery done
B) Remind you that not everybody responds to every treatment
thanks for posting
your problems seem to be hairline recession and crown thinning, correct?
Found another cheap one for 1350 euros in Poland:
https://www.skin-laser.pl/en/zabieg/regenera-activa-scalp-mesotherapy-with-stem-cells-70
Looks like more and more clinics are offering this, probably will get even cheaper in the future.
It doesn't have to be years away, that's the saddest thing :'(Yeah but that's still years and years away. Hope we can get in Japan next year.
Is this treatment dose dependent?
Well I recently had my consult with a doctor that treats people with Regenera Activa and asked him these questions:
For how long have you been treating patients with Regenera Activa?
For around 1 and a half years.
How many patients have you treated with Regenera Activa?
Around 30-35 people.
What's the overal response to the treatment?
The overall response was very positive, but was also really depended on the stage of hairloss the patient was in. Patients who were in the early stages of hairloss showed a way better response rate in comparison to patients who were in the later stages.
Are results guaranteed?
No, as it is with everything. Alot of people have a good response, some don't. It's really depended on your hairloss stage.
How often have you seen patients after the treatment?
I do a follow up 1 month, and 3 month after the treatment. After that it's up to them to contact me again. But since I haven't heard from any patients who had succes with Regenera Activa, I suspect that it's still working. The latest I've heard from a patient again was 6-9 months after the treatment, nothing was changed for them.
Are alot of your patients on any other type of hairloss medication prior to starting Regenera Activa?
Yes, but I always advise/make them to stop using these type of medication.
Does the treatment create scars?
No.
Have you ever offered any other type of hairloss treatment?
Yes, I did PRP for a couple of years.
Is it comparable?
No, this is way better. I haven't seen these type of results from PRP patients.
My thoughts: I am really considering trying it. Eventhough it's expensive and the results are not guaranteed. But I don't want to keep using finasteride for years to come.
I also have this feeling that the good results came from the people quitting finasteride, where it's common that hairloss won't come back until 1 year after cessiation. So it's possible that finasteride is still doing all the work. Or that they've never quit finasteride.
That's great to hear guys. (hope these docs are honest though, but it seems to be the case)
For less and mildly aggressive hair loss victims this could be the ultimate maintenance therapy.
@BigOl'BaldingHead
Can you tell us what this is?
https://hasci.nl/behandeling/haarst...-i9tnJ-9UAzm6ibI_o6F6tUKJmD1R6rEaAjCqEALw_wcB
Heard it's also some sort of hair stemcell treatment. How is this different to Regenera?
Okay thx. Can't find any decent pictures from patients though.
Uh... why? It looks positiveI don't know whether this study has ever been shared but it does not look promising....
Uh... why? It looks positive
Huh, the study results are very good imo.
from the study:
In general, patients' subjective assessment of the results was positive, describing
an improvement mainly in thickness and hair loss, being a well-tolerated treatment
concerning pain, and with no side effects.
Hi BigOl'BaldingHead,
I did my consultation also last week with a doctor based in France.
I asked him the same kind of questions and I got, almost same answers !
He's also doing it for a couple of years with overall good results.
He refuses to treat if the balding is too advanced.
I've booked a slot to be "Regenera Activted" the 22nd of October.
I'll be reporting the evolution in that thread
ciao
This procedure apparently works by adding stem cells to the top of the scalp that can then turn into hair follicles (or strengthen remaining hair follicles). That means that in androgenic hairloss, DHT not only causes the hair follicles to deteriorate (shrink), but also causes the depletion of stem cells that can turn into hair follicles. So the top of the scalp turns into skin that doesn't contain enough follicle forming stem cells to sustain hair.
If the above is the case, using minoxidil would only be a short boost, depleting the remaining stem cells even faster. This could also explain why minoxidil stops working after a year or so. And finasteride only makes the DHT stop attacking the follicles, but does nothing about the (by then) severely depleted skin not being able to create new hair follicles.
Your thoughts?
Not sure what you're asking or getting at. Why would minoxidil deplete stem cells faster? They either have the capacity to reproduce or they don't and that's to do with deterioration from DHT.