Life After Nw3: Hell Or Merely Purgatory?

[kj6723]

If only we were in the same boat as Liam Hemsworth

 

[Rudiger]

Not always true. Some women who have low self esteem would pass on this guy because they know he can get always trade up as long as he wants to. In my younger days, women said I was unapproachable because they said I "looked" like a womanizer and arrogant. I don't know what a womanizer looks like but I think it was a complement. However, I had such social anxiety that I could not dare approach them either. So it was a loss both ways.

I've been saying this for ages, everyone likes to pretend they have self-respect, and women, although they might want to bang attractive guys, often would not as they know he will soon move on to someone else. Actually even handsome guys will f*** below their standard, easily, but the next day go back to whatever genuine hottie they normally are used to. So average or fat women have probably been burned like this a few times, and don't want to re-visit the humiliation.

CopeForLife completely missed the point, of course genuinely handsome guys will get a lot more attention, but does that mean 100% of girls are approaching them? Nowhere near. Actually an outright approach from a woman is rare even for Hemsworth tier guys (in a world where he isn't famous of course), of course there are plenty of women that if he approached them, they wouldn't want to be stung by being temporarily turned on by a hot guy and then left for dead.

You will even see the same with women, there are some who are so outright stunning, nobody approaches them. As a male approaching a hot woman worried about rejection, you feel even stupider than with an average or just cute chick, if people see you strike out with a super hot woman, especially your friends, you feel they're going "LOL he thought he had a chance with HER! He's deluded...". I mean they probably are thinking that, if you go for an average girl it's like, at least he's trying.

Of course these hot women who complain about never getting approached would be super quick to put down most guys, like a knee jerk reaction, but that's besides the point.

 

[hellouser]

nice cope, moron

"All of a sudden I found a confidence within me...."

LOL, what the f*** does that even mean?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I've been saying this for ages, everyone likes to pretend they have self-respect, and women, although they might want to bang attractive guys, often would not as they know he will soon move on to someone else. Actually even handsome guys will f*** below their standard, easily, but the next day go back to whatever genuine hottie they normally are used to. So average or fat women have probably been burned like this a few times, and don't want to re-visit the humiliation.

CopeForLife completely missed the point, of course genuinely handsome guys will get a lot more attention, but does that mean 100% of girls are approaching them? Nowhere near. Actually an outright approach from a woman is rare even for Hemsworth tier guys (in a world where he isn't famous of course), of course there are plenty of women that if he approached them, they wouldn't want to be stung by being temporarily turned on by a hot guy and then left for dead.

You will even see the same with women, there are some who are so outright stunning, nobody approaches them. As a male approaching a hot woman worried about rejection, you feel even stupider than with an average or just cute chick, if people see you strike out with a super hot woman, especially your friends, you feel they're going "LOL he thought he had a chance with HER! He's deluded...". I mean they probably are thinking that, if you go for an average girl it's like, at least he's trying.

Of course these hot women who complain about never getting approached would be super quick to put down most guys, like a knee jerk reaction, but that's besides the point.

I hear a lot about these mythical beautiful women who are always alone because no man has the courage to approach them. I've heard this many, many times. But I've never seen it in action. I guess it could be true if she's a scientist working at a south pole research station.

Other than that, I like the top half of your post.

 

[Rudiger]

I've fucked fat women before.

That's true. Lots of guys act "holier than though", as if it's beneath their standards.

At least I admit to it.

I haven't gone through with it but would definitely try it if nobody knew, but the fat girl herself will know, and that's enough (as in, she can tell people). But I've always thought the hottest looking "BBW" women look pretty much great in p**rn, and I don't even care about some rolls of flab along the stomach, everything is curvy and looks fun, but what I worry about as well is that this is p**rn, not reality. And in reality fat girls are likely to have way more cellulite, stretch marks, acne/blemishes from poor diet, and even poor hygiene as they don't look after themselves. I can imagine the reality being awful, but maybe you can enlighten me.

I guess it depends how fat we're talking, I mean a bit above chubby absolutely no problem, I've been there, I would consider fat as actually entering a "rotund" sort of body shape overall. Tits to stomach ratio has to match up, a big girl with small breasts is actually disturbing (for anyone who hasn't seen, look this up if you dare).

But any sort of way the stomach is actually like "hanging" out, separate from the body, no I couldn't

Back on the topic of normal girls rejecting hot guys, probably one of the most handsome guys I've ever known, tall too, was good friends with another girl I know, who was quite a bit overweight. She said he randomly offered, not even drunk or anything, that he'd f*** her whenever she wants, this was after she made an off-the-cuff, passing remark about how obviously good-looking he is. This wasn't even a club type situation where a girl can be wary of a stranger, she had the opportunity to have discreet sex with a friend of hers that really turned her on, and as far as I know it never happened- and she last talked about being unsure of the offer a month after he said it, did she jump at the opportunity? No.

Also as a side note, this girl had one-night stands somewhat regularly, with more average looking guys. But a really handsome man was too intimidating. She would have loved it, but left heartbroken over a guy practically giving her "favour sex".

Just one anecdotal example but still, I think it backs up the logic at least.

 

[Rudiger]

I hear a lot about these mythical beautiful women who are always alone because no man has the courage to approach them. I've heard this many, many times. But I've never seen it in action. I guess it could be true if she's a scientist working at a south pole research station.

Hahaha, I meant purely in being approached in a party or club scenario, I'm not saying they don't end up with someone if they want to (although they make this claim). If they get to know any male friends, at work or whatever, or online, any guy who remotely thinks he has a chance with a hot woman won't take long to make that clear.

I mean that's a completely different thing, ask an impeccably hot girl if she gets approached in a club and she could say not very often, but how many times has a male friend or acquaintance "made things weird"? It's constant. They have no trouble meeting guys like that.

I've had gorgeous female friends who are around my age (29) and to this day can still count the amount of times they've been randomly approached on one hand, and I've known girls who were average to pretty, wondering why they get harassed when they go out, yet their genuinely beautiful friend is always left alone.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I hear a lot about these mythical beautiful women who are always alone because no man has the courage to approach them. I've heard this many, many times. But I've never seen it in action. I guess it could be true if she's a scientist working at a south pole research station.

Other than that, I like the top half of your post.

I think the point we were both trying to make was that not everyone male or female will approach a super attractive person if they are worried about rejection or have low self worth. However, when someone is overconfident and has high self worth, they will approach these super attractive people thinking they will not get rejected. So, most attractive people will get approached more times than not but its not going to be 100 percent. However, most get the 100 percent approval that they are very attractive but there is no guarantee they will be approached as well.

 

[Rudiger]

Oh, the other thing is, we all assume attractive people are already taken. Forgot that.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I was thinking of that too but forgot that too. I think most people actually assume that genetically elite looking people are either married or "taken".

 

[shookwun]

Not always true. Some women who have low self esteem would pass on this guy because they know he can always trade up as long as he wants to. In my younger days, women said I was unapproachable because they said I "looked" like a womanizer and arrogant. I don't know what a womanizer looks like but I think it was a complement. However, I had such social anxiety that I could not dare approach them either. So it was a loss both ways.

Damn I can relate to this post.

I don't approach women typically. All though when I am in a club or a bar it's not a problem

 

[Dante92]

I love this. even the expression on his face is one of a white knight. You're welcome to join Dante. you, me and fred will woe over all the women with extravagant discussion and door opening and all leave with blue balls.

 

[Roberto_72]

Oh, the other thing is, we all assume attractive people are already taken. Forgot that.

Which is not a nonsensical assumption. In my workplace, all good looking women older than 30 are married and have kids. It makes sense, though. A beautiful woman will have many more chances of being courted by someone she likes to the point of suggesting marriage, amid the crowd of admirers.

 

[Exodus2011]

and if the hot person isnt taken then many times its a mental disorder

 

[I.D WALKER]

I've fucked fat women before.

That's true. Lots of guys act "holier than though", as if it's beneath their standards.

At least I admit to it.

You have my approval K9,
Nobody respects a big fat liar.

 

[lbj2]

Which is not a nonsensical assumption. In my workplace, all good looking women older than 30 are married and have kids. It makes sense, though. A beautiful woman will have many more chances of being courted by someone she likes to the point of suggesting marriage, amid the crowd of admirers.

And there really aren't that many good looking women older than 30. That much wear on a woman is like a NW4 on a man.

 

[blackg]

And there really aren't that many good looking women older than 30. That much wear on a woman is like a NW4 on a man.

That's a bit harsh.

 

[kj6723]

And there really aren't that many good looking women older than 30. That much wear on a woman is like a NW4 on a man.

.....

Are you a pedaphile?

 

[DoctorHouse]

I kind of agree with lbj2 here; speaking as someone who primarily dates in the 26-33 range, women can be really hot in their thirties but it's not the norm. Usually the ones who are tend to be former bombshells and/or fitness enthusiasts who have their lifestyle sorted out. Either it's good genes or a lot of maintenance work, essentially. On average, the closer to ~20 they are, the better they look, and things usually take a drastic turn for the worse around 28-29. The skin takes on that rubbery quality, there's wrinkles, tits start sagging a little. Et.c.

I prefer women in their thirties, but that's basically because my checklist is (in order of importance):

• Childless
  
• Slim
• Smart/competent
• Cute
  
• Sane

And the competition is simply way too intense for <30 women who hit all five points. I simply don't have the resources, aesthetically and otherwise, to sustain interest. While there is a substantial marginal difference in attractiveness for the >30 bracket, you can still get great sexual chemistry with them and in the end that's what counts for me. If I could have a 20 yo woman with the same characteristics it wouldn't be much of a choice, though.

Good points. I can honestly tell you if a women has kids, she is less likely to be ALL those things and if she is divorced she is going to carry around some emotional baggage with her.

 

[Joan]

I kind of agree with lbj2 here; speaking as someone who primarily dates in the 26-33 range, women can be really hot in their thirties but it's not the norm.

Men, on the other hand, seem to look the best in their 30s and still appeal to younger women.
There are quite a few moms in their mid to upper 30s in my neighborhood who wear little, if any, makeup and still look youthful and are really pretty. I'm 53, though, so I'm sure I judge less critically.

 

[EvilLocks]

Men, on the other hand, seem to look the best in their 30s and still appeal to younger women.
There are quite a few moms in their mid to upper 30s in my neighborhood who wear little, if any, makeup and still look youthful and are really pretty. I'm 53, though, so I'm sure I judge less critically.

I agree; men peak in their 30's.