Looks Matter - 200,000 Swipes And Zero Success

[hellouser]

Not even bald, Sebastian Stadil from San Francisco spent $6,000 on dates and made an auto-swiping app and still failed.

Full Story:
http://news.nationalpost.com/life/i...t-on-200000-women-on-tinder-with-zero-success

Here's the dude:

 

[That Guy]

Your thread title is slightly misleading

He went out with 150 of them, he just didn't get a perma-girlfriend out of it which I was always under the impression wasn't the point of Tinder anyway.

Point still stands that 150 or so swipe rights out of 200,000 is technically a 0% success rate.

 

[hellouser]

Your thread title is slightly misleading

He went out with 150 of them, he just didn't get a perma-girlfriend out of it which I was always under the impression wasn't the point of Tinder anyway.

Point still stands that 150 or so swipe rights out of 200,000 is technically a 0% success rate.

0.00075% Success rate

God damn.... that is pitiful.

 

[constrictedvoid]

0.00075% Success rate

God damn.... that is pitiful.

0.075%, if I am not mistaken, you need to multiply by 100 to get the percentage.

And yeah, tinder in the first world sucks unless you're model tier. My matchrate is 5% at best, and I look above average. I tried a male model here, realistic pics(not modelling ones), matchrate 40%. My matchrate in Mexico, Ecuador, Thailand: 80-95%. Ease of getting them to meet me there is higher than it is here as a male model. And this is Europe, the US is worse based on my limited experimentation there. Baldness is also not hated on much in those countries. Still very high matchrate as an otherwise good looking NW5(experimental pics used, I am about NW2 myself).

Tinder over here is just pathetic, or are average modern first world women? I'm not sure.

 

[shookwun]

I could never imagine putting that much effort for nothing essentially.


I always say this. Don't try and get in her pants on the first date if you want a girlfriend worthy type girl. Every girl I messed around with on the first date essentially led no where. A few led to potential relationships but almost all the rest became a deal breaker

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

He doesn't look terrible to me, he looks average.

I just saw that he lives in San Francisco. That partly explains it. Worst major city in the USA for single men.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

0.00075% Success rate

God damn.... that is pitiful.

0.075%, not 0.00075%, you forgot to multiply by 100.

 

[Roberto_72]

This is interesting from the article:
(To get the) same number of dating opportunities as a straight woman, a straight guy would have to swipe right on almost 18 times as many profiles as she did.

Maybe the men on Tinder should start being more selective so that women learn to be less so...

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Tyson can’t say for sure what the best Tinder strategy for those men is. But in an environment where women get tons of cursory messages from tons of ill-suited guys, he reasons, the one who stands out should be the one who wins. Part of that is developing a quality profile with a range of pictures and a fleshed-out biography. (Both of those things impacted swipe-rate in Tyson’s study.) Part of that is also sending opening messages that contain more than “hello” or “hey,” which make up a quarter of all Tinder openings.

“You want to immediately differentiate yourself with a cool and interesting conversation opener,” Tyson said. “Ideally, this would be personalized.” That doesn’t lend itself to Tinder spam.

What an a**h**.

 

[recedingyt]

I have a hard time taking this seriously. I had a higher success rate than that on Tinder even when I was objectively less attractive than that guy, not to mention unemployed and somewhat socially awkward. Idk, something about this just doesn't seem right. The point that looks matter still reigns true though, but this works both ways. Ugly girls don't just get free hot boyfriends, that isn't how the world works. I think most guys issue is they set their sights way too high instead of being realistic about their own appearance/what they bring to the table.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I have a hard time taking this seriously. I had a higher success rate than that on Tinder even when I was objectively less attractive than that guy, not to mention unemployed and somewhat socially awkward. Idk, something about this just doesn't seem right. The point that looks matter still reigns true though, but this works both ways. Ugly girls don't just get free hot boyfriends, that isn't how the world works. I think most guys issue is they set their sights way too high instead of being realistic about their own appearance/what they bring to the table.

Here are the things wrong with his story. His numbers don't add.

1) He swiped 200,000 women and had 150 first dates. But how many women swiped him back? He doesn't say. We're missing a normalization factor. It could be that far more than 150 swiped him back, but he didn't have time for all of them.

2) There are ~4 million females in San Francisco. That includes 1 year-old girls, 10 year-old girls, 18 year-old women, 70 year-old women, etc. Assuming a 10-year age window, that might mean 500,000 women. If he swiped 200,000, that means 40% of them are on Tinder. Really, 40% of the population on Tinder? Maybe for San Francisco.

3) He's a male software developer in San Francisco. He is exceptionally generic. San Francisco / San Jose is known to be the worst place for single men to live due to the influx of young, highly-paid male nerds getting work in silicon valley. They torque the market. Imagine the fraction of those guys who only use Tinder?

 

[Aldrich]

Bald or not. All a woman want is more of your resources. End of story.

 

[Rudiger]

I always say this. Don't try and get in her pants on the first date if you want a girlfriend worthy type girl. Every girl I messed around with on the first date essentially led no where. A few led to potential relationships but almost all the rest became a deal breaker

This doesn't prove anything, the point is to test if they would mess around with you on a first date, if so, not girlfriend material, if they politely decline or aren't up for it- oh wait wait wait wait! "LOL INCEL" nobody rejects shookwun of course.

Shooks if you feel the option is always there for you to take sex as you please, then simply step up a gear to ridiculously hot women, with a bit of rejection you'll end up with a world class stunner.

But it's all nonsense isn't it.

 

[Rudiger]

Today's *online dating scene.

 

[Rudiger]

It's nowhere near the same ratio.

Girls go on Tinder and swipe left repeatedly even for guys they like, just to see who's online, and even if they know them.

Girls also go on Tinder to f*** about with guys they may genuinely fancy.

In real life girls don't "swipe right" by making eye contact repeatedly with a guy they don't want to f*** around with, this does not happen, if she's interested, it's happening.

If you're messing around with randomers who have shown no interest they've already "swiped left" and you've proven nothing.

 

[Rudiger]

Proven?

Exactly. I just jokingly made a post in your own style, expressing an opinion as fact, one line sentences to punctuate your "truth", in the same way you constantly do, and you ask if it's proven.

No, it's not, get over yourself in future.

 

[Rudiger]

You know why I'm doing this, just like I said, you constantly impose your opinions on others and expect nobody to ask for proof.

I just made an imposing opinion and you asked for proof of it.

 

[Rudiger]

Better.

 

[constrictedvoid]

If you're white most girls in those countries are going to match you for that alone. They see you as a lotto ticket.

Incorrect based on my experiments. You need a certain level of aesthetics and youth as well, the standard is just lower.

 

[constrictedvoid]

A guy on the Rooshv forum said he had 5 matches a week in Bangkok. If that's the case, that's quite bad news for him.

ROFL that's scary sh*t.

I do know you can be a NW5 there just fine, as long as you look ok overall. That guy must have been pretty hideous.