Looks Matter - 200,000 Swipes And Zero Success

constrictedvoid

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ROFL that's scary sh*t.

I do know you can be a NW5 there just fine, as long as you look ok overall. That guy must have been pretty hideous.

He must have been like a NW4 with diffuse thinning growing his hair out, combined with obesity, too high age and terrible facial structure. I haven't tried a truly ugly guy as an experiment yet, will be interesting to see. Did he say anything about how he looks, Fred?
 

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I'd say you go up 1 or 2 points in Thailand for example.

A guy on the Rooshv forum said he had 5 matches a week in Bangkok. If that's the case, that's quite bad news for him.

I had 30 to 40 matches every day there.

In Brussels, I get what that guy got in Bangkok.

Oh also, was he white?
 

constrictedvoid

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I'd say you go up 1 or 2 points in Thailand for example.

A guy on the Rooshv forum said he had 5 matches a week in Bangkok. If that's the case, that's quite bad news for him.

I had 30 to 40 matches every day there.

In Brussels, I get what that guy got in Bangkok.

I think the increase is more than 2 points btw. I got rated 7/10 on lookism, but I get more matches in Thailand than a 8.5/10 male model I used(with realistic pics) over here gets. My matchrate here is about 5%, there it's over 90.
 

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what is this quantity over quality sh*t?? 200,000 swipes? this just sounds weird and wrong. Why doesn't he just go on okc or match and have a real conversation with someone?
 

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Okcupid or any dating website is the same as Tinder now. Girls even put "don't message me if I didn't match you" on their profile.

Sounds like something a Toronto chick would say.
 

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I've had way more success since this "match" system was put in place.

Why? Easy, girls do the choosing, and by choosing who can talk to her, she will not be bombarded by hundreds of messages.

Which is what happened before on Badoo and Okcupid. I usually spent a few hours a week messaging "hey how are you?" to all the girls.

That's a cardinal sin here in Toronto. Generic messages like that get you immediately ignored. Girls will even write that they will NOT respond to you if that's all you write because they demand you to write some ultra original message.
 

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You know why I'm doing this, just like I said, you constantly impose your opinions on others and expect nobody to ask for proof.

I just made an imposing opinion and you asked for proof of it.
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Rudiger

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Shooks only ever responds to me with sh*t like that, he can never directly confront the truth that I point out, and he can't face reality, hellouser also likes this.

I made a post against shookwun recently, did he reply? Nah. Did he make lame gif jokes in another un-related thread? Yah.
 

shookwun

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Face reality of what, your continuous bullshit of refuting the idea people get laid?


Nothing to discuss. You will continue to believe everything I say is a lie, and I cannot change that.
 

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People do get laid, and they have enough of a life that it wouldn't even enter their consciousness to post about it on a baldness forum, as well as seeking wannabe slayers who are weak and malleable. Because there aren't many for you to sink your teeth in lately you haven't been as active.

You even told me you'd give me slayer tips, what the actual f***? You don't even like me, you're just desperate to be the slayer guru and feel good about yourself.

For the record I think there is a chance you get laid, I don't know, who cares, but the way you talk about women and advice is not at all convincing, incel or not.
 

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Are you intentionally awkward and consistently miss the point on purpose, or just f*****g stupid? It's not an issue of time and I never wrote that it was, re-read it jesus christ.

What do you actually get from trying to boast about your apparent conquests? I don't understand myself, me or anyone else I know who gets it, would never bother bragging about it on any forum, never mind a haven for nutcases (like 20% of people here are clearly nuts). I don't understand why anyone would or what you get out of it, you would claim it's just giving us your life experience which is BS (you proved this recently in your boasting to David where you made it clear you think sex isn't just an occurrence, it elevates you as a person) and shooks claims he's just trying to help people, also BS (Why would he want to help someone like me, who he doesn't even like?).

And actually with shooks it's not a question of time, but since you brought it up, with you however, sometimes you post so obsessively that this is a factor. And no don't tell me it takes 2mins to post, I know what it's like to be on here too much, and you lurk around waiting as well as posting. Except you do it for like most of the f*****g day sometimes.

Again Fred when I used to sometimes share my experiences with women you never had a problem believing me then, now you keep saying I'm incel simply based on the fact I'm exposing you.

"Call me incel? You're incel"

Fred-pilled logic. Well done, so binary and simple, I guess that's how some people have to live.
 

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This has nothing to do with looks.

This guy is not even bad-looking.

These are the results any above average guy would get.

In 5 years doing online dating, I've had 86 first dates out of... maybe also 200000 swipes or "Hey, how are you?". I have no idea.

This guy did slightly better than me because he has hair. I have friends who are similar to me in terms of looks but have hair, they get twice as many matches and opportunities.

Anyway, this also shows the importance of getting dates, not stupidly counting matches or phone numbers like in these retarded male model experiments.

You cannot improve this ratio unfortunately, no witty lines, or muscles, or cool tattoos is going to help.

What we see here is just the reality of being a normal (or above average) guy on today's dating scene.

Have your numbers recently improved or something? You were talking about 4 dates in a week recently.

I can't judge like a woman but that guy certainly isn't ugly.
 

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It is futile to try to use such a silly article to prove a statement so obvious. Looks matter and it should be understandable for everyone despite what (I guess) society tries to tell us (but does it really? Looks matter.) Honestly, I don't get why it is still a topic here.

Not to mention the fact that the guy seems kind of nice, at least average. He should have no problems finding a woman.
But maybe he is just plain stupid or mean or something like that? Provided he put so much effort into this it seems to me like an answer ;)
 

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Ah yes, writing on this forum means we don't get laid.

It reminds me of guys saying you should stop playing video games if you want to get laid because women don't have sex with losers who play video games.

Please. It shows again you have little experience with women. Getting laid does not require much investment, it's not supposed to be hard. So hard and time-consuming that you can't write on a hair loss forum.

For some people these experiences need to be somewhat religious, they have to "suffer" to be "worthy". They think that if they don't watch p**rn, they don't fap, don't play video games or "waste time" in general, good things will happen to them. So much bullshit. I find it extremely sad when guys stop doing the things they love just to "get more women". It's beyond pathetic.
 

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For some people these experiences need to be somewhat religious, they have to "suffer" to be "worthy". They think that if they don't watch p**rn, they don't fap, don't play video games or "waste time" in general, good things will happen to them. So much bullshit. I find it extremely sad when guys stop doing the things they love just to "get more women". It's beyond pathetic.

Bad habits like gambling, smoking, drinking, bing eating, excess video games, et cetera are often unattractive to women. Losing them is good for you but will involve suffering in the short term.

Whether or not anybody "loves" watching p**rn, getting stoned every day, or playing angry birds is a matter of perspective.
 

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I'm utter sh*t compared to him, and he still couldn't get laid. This speaks volumes about the absolute importance of looks and the utter stupidity of those who deny this.

Ever notice that whenever the news does a story on some tragic death, a missing person, someone battling a disability, etc. it's almost always a woman that is at least 'somewhat' attractive, if not VERY attractive?

It's as if the media wants to tell us that regular looking people, especially men, don't deserve sympathy.
 

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I'm utter sh*t compared to him, and he still couldn't get laid. This speaks volumes about the absolute importance of looks and the utter stupidity of those who deny this.

Wait, so if looks were the only factor, and this guy isn't even bad looking, does that not say there's more to it than looks?

Looks are incredibly important, don't get me wrong, but me thinks this guy must have a touch of the doofy's. 200,000 women and he couldn't strike up anything meaningful? Somethings not right here, and David already went through the stats, this all seems a bit ridiculous, however I have no clue why someone would want to make up that they couldn't get laid by trying with nearly a quarter of a million women.

It's probably some red-pill freak trying to prove a point, and hey, looks like he got the attention of his intended target market.
 

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Ever notice that whenever the news does a story on some tragic death, a missing person, someone battling a disability, etc. it's almost always a woman that is at least 'somewhat' attractive, if not VERY attractive?

It's as if the media wants to tell us that regular looking people, especially men, don't deserve sympathy.

It's the same with women though.

When a beautiful women is shot or otherwise harmed, national news.

Prostitutes, aboriginal women, etc? Nobody gives a sh*t. That was brought up a few years ago when tons and tons of aboriginal women were being killed.

Your life is valuable to the media if you are rich, famous, beautiful.

Reason #1,653 to ignore mainstream media.
 

hellouser

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It's the same with women though.

When a beautiful women is shot or otherwise harmed, national news.

Prostitutes, aboriginal women, etc? Nobody gives a sh*t. That was brought up a few years ago when tons and tons of aboriginal women were being killed.

Your life is valuable to the media if you are rich, famous, beautiful.

Reason #1,653 to ignore mainstream media.

Truth about the aboriginal women. Canadian government doesn't give a sh*t all the rape/murder and kidnapping cases of them.
 
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