Looks Matter - 200,000 Swipes And Zero Success

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FredTheBelgian said:
Lol, none of these matter to most women. Some of the guys I know who get laid the most are guy who sometimes have a combination of three or four of these problems.

But,

they're good-looking.

You wish it would matter, but the truth is, it's irrelevant, if all you're looking for is getting laid and maybe having a relationship with a woman who's as unstable as you.

"Unattractive to women". No, not really, they don't give a sh*t if they find you hot.

Having your sh*t together will only matter to women who have their sh*t together.

And they're as rare as men who have their life in order.

Look around you, most people live fucked up lives, and yet, somehow, they get laid.

And some men have their lives completely in order, they're in shape, have a good job, healthy hobbies, yet they do terrible with women.

One variable that matters: looks. The rest is just self-help BS.
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THIS.

But then again most people who meet each other have relations, hobbies & interest in some form or another. Out of that list mentioned I would say only a trait like being obese would be considered unattractive. But then again just become someone has attractive traits & interests doesn't mean they are desirable. Most of you confuse a women considering a man good looking with being attractive. its not the same.

You can have a great career, own a condo and be highly educated but there is no relevance when it comes to dating. I have worked with skinny black guys who were cut up, and tatted who pulled on the weekly. These guys were all laid back, relax and worked in janitorial, and housekeeping type positions. I also know guys who worked in the downtown district who were skinny hipster dudes with beards most you would laugh at that pulled quality tail as bartenders. Environment is most important when pulling.

Dating applications are not the same as real life pick up. Sorry Fred, if you think otherwise. Almost all your relevance is through a picture swipe app. it's not applicable, and the same as meeting someone in person bro. In real life, it's all about being personable making an approach, and not being overly anxious. Looks help, but aside from taking care of your self there is nothing else you can do. Get over the fear of rejection, this will make you less anxious, and more excited to see that hot girl you have been talking to. I know confidence is a 'myth' nobody wants to believe around here, but its the strongest aphrodisiac we have going for selves. A lot of people around here suffer from self-pity, and insecurity which explains why you all need dating applications to meet women. Sorry but this is the truth.


You can be the most handsome guy but if you give off a creepy vibe, are afraid to approach women you will always be withdrawn from women.
 
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THIS.

But then again most people who meet each other have relations, hobbies & interest in some form or another. Out of that list mentioned I would say only a trait like being obese would be considered unattractive. But then again just become someone has attractive traits & interests doesn't mean they are desirable. Most of you confuse a women considering a man good looking with being attractive. its not the same.

You can have a great career, own a condo and be highly educated but there is no relevance when it comes to dating. I have worked with skinny black guys who were cut up, and tatted who pulled on the weekly. These guys were all laid back, relax and worked in janitorial, and housekeeping type positions. I also know guys who worked in the downtown district who were skinny hipster dudes with beards most you would laugh at that pulled quality tail as bartenders. Environment is most important when pulling.

Dating applications are not the same as real life pick up. Sorry Fred, if you think otherwise. Almost all your relevance is through a picture swipe app. it's not applicable, and the same as meeting someone in person bro. In real life, it's all about being personable making an approach, and not being overly anxious. Looks help, but aside from taking care of your self there is nothing else you can do. Get over the fear of rejection, this will make you less anxious, and more excited to see that hot girl you have been talking to. I know confidence is a 'myth' nobody wants to believe around here, but its the strongest aphrodisiac we have going for selves. A lot of people around here suffer from self-pity, and insecurity which explains why you all need dating applications to meet women. Sorry but this is the truth.


You can be the most handsome guy but if you give off a creepy vibe, are afraid to approach women you will always be withdrawn from women.
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Rainy season is going here in India.
So 1 week back,it suddenly started raining and so i went near a tree where one girl was on her two wheeler.Imagine how my head would be looking at that time.
I then pulled out my raincoat and then after wearing it,i told that girl to go to nearby building so that she won't get drench in rain.I took her under one public office building along with me.

Felt awesome...because i didn't create creepy vibe,she was comfortable hearing my suggestion.


Also on another day,i saw..one average looking guy standing with two girls avoiding rain.
Then this two girls started taking selfies,later i saw that guy taking this two girls pic with one girls mobile phone in rain,he also took combined selfie of all three.I was like what the fccc is happening there.

Whenver i see around,i have seen unimaginable things happening,
All because of confidence.


What is confidence:
No hesitation to initiate and / or complete a task.

Never hesitate guys..if you lose,its fine.
 
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FredTheBelgian said:
Rejection is not harmless unfortunately, there's a reason we fear it like the plague.
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Yes,this is true
FredTheBelgian said:
Rejection is not harmless unfortunately, there's a reason we fear it like the plague.
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Yes,Heart break is very dangerous,
but casual approaching is too beautiful.
Meaning of my casual approach is not that youtube videos asking for girl date/phone number,but just interactions, like asking some addresses,any help.
My brother(cousin)/is so breakfree in this that he can call any girl and can speak for 4/5 minutes,
Can pick any shopping mall girl and start asking her suggestions and choices while selecting a dress.
One day,this mad bro ask a girl to give some place to sit on a ladies seat at a city bus.(left side is reserve for ladies,he goes and sit on that section in a jam pack bus without give a damn for anyone.
 
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By the way .

I am fedup by guys stroking their hairs when they go nearby from me on road,atleast i see 4/5 guys doing this. ( we don't use helmet on road,i live in small city).
 
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Saurabhaj said:
By the way .

I am fedup by guys stroking their hairs when they go nearby from me on road,atleast i see 4/5 guys doing this. ( we don't use helmet on road,i live in small city).
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FredTheBelgian said:
I've said this before shook, it's not socially accepted in my country to meet women "in real life". You never talk to someone you don't know.

You need to be introduced by someone the girl knows.

Interestingly enough, one part of the population dates almost exclusively through online dating (Facebook included): Muslims.

That's right, the reason is obvious: no alcohol, no parties, no mixed social events for them, so they have no choice.

In Belgium, most women I know have met their boyfriend either through mutual friends, at work or... online, it's becoming more and more common.

I've watched American TV shows my whole life and I always thought: "a woman alone in a bar reading a book, what a load of BS!"

I didn't know that sh*t happened in real life for people from North America. Another thing we don't really have here are coffee shops.

The only possibility I have are meet-ups, or at work, there's a girl interested in me. But I don't need any of that right now.

I would not be afraid to approach a girl, I've done it before, but it never led anywhere.

Lots of numbers, lots of flakes, and two dead-end dates.

No matter how well you present yourself, she'l think it's weird that you approached her.
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I understand.

I just find it rely fascinating that you state that it would be taboo to approach, and meet people outside of social circles, and through someone special. It's as though you need to know someone to meet someone. it just doesn't make sense to me.

So what was everyone doing before Tindr, POF and the social media boom.


So what happens at bars, and clubs and otherwise nightlife activities that people meet each other? Would it be against a certain code and looked down if someone talked, introduced and exchange numbers with someone?
 
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I understand.

I just find it rely fascinating that you state that it would be taboo to approach, and meet people outside of social circles, and through someone special. It's as though you need to know someone to meet someone. it just doesn't make sense to me.

So what was everyone doing before Tindr, POF and the social media boom.


So what happens at bars, and clubs and otherwise nightlife activities that people meet each other? Would it be against a certain code and looked down if someone talked, introduced and exchange numbers with someone?
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It's unlikely that Fred speaks for all of Belgium. It might be indicative of his microcosm of Belgium.

In general I'm skeptical of posters on this site who speak on behalf of entire cities, countries, or civilizations.

But we can be sure that nowhere is Tinder universal. Tinder has 50 million users active in any given month, that's worldwide.

Real life is still very much a thing.
 
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Dante92 said:
Especially if you have ONLY been rejected without any success. Looking back and seeing only failures and humiliations.. It is devastating.
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At least you can take solace in the knowledge that natural selection is doing its job. Your defective genes will die with you.
 
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pegasus2 said:
At least you can take solace in the knowledge that natural selection is doing its job. Your defective genes will die with you.
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Holy sh*t.... what a depressing thought, lol.
 
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