Louis C.k.: The Impact Of A Bald Man Pulling His Dick Out Without Your Consent

[blackg]

He is autistic and brain damaged. He needs mental help and he needs it fast.

Well if he supports white genocide then I'm not on board with that but you went all abusive and personal on his ***, so I support him.

I'm the voice of the common man, not the name caller's.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I agree that there's a greater power in actually being wanted by women, but how we perceive power is truly individual.

I think the claim comes from the fact that a lot of these guys can't get off unless the woman resists.

ELLE is a good recent movie on this topic, it's directed by Paul Verhoeven.

Wanted to watch it but missed it on the short theatrical run at Palace Nova a while back. So much cinema to catch up on.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Well if he supports white genocide then I'm not on board with that but you went all abusive and personal on his ***, so I support him.

I'm the voice of the common man, not the name caller's.

f*** the common man.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Wanted to watch it but missed it on the short theatrical run at Palace Nova a while back. So much cinema to catch up on.

When you watch it let me know how you interpret it. There are multiple interpretations of the film (it is a Verhoeven film), all of them are equally valid and equally supported by what is on screen.

 

[blackg]

f*** the common man.

Here you go again. It was the common man who built our great Western nations and made them what they are today.
With the help of a bit of capitalism.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Here you go again. It was the common man who built our great Western nations and made them what they are today.
With the help of a bit of capitalism.

Common men are expendable. Send them all on a boat off a waterfall to their deaths and there will be plenty more where they came from.

These are the types who make nations great or at least great again:

 

[JeanLucBB]

Here you go again. It was the common man who built our great Western nations and made them what they are today.
With the help of a bit of capitalism.

Buy some bitcoin btw

 

[Exodus2011]

No lol, I've been in hotel rooms and still felt far from that level of intimacy.

Nobody should really have that right to make someone uncomfortable by asking randomly if you should ship your dick out. Traumatic? Well, I mean it sounds dramatic but not implausible, on this forum in particular it's so easy to fleetingly go "lol cuz women never lie!!!!1"

But yknow he put himself in that situation, possibly they capitalised on it, and fine if anyone wants to give them sh*t too, but then at least acknowledge all parties were stupid.

Anyway to get specific, normally I'd consider at least kissing before touching lower *** parts, in this sort of random threesome scenario kissing isn't always for people in to that however it should be made out to damn clear they're about to witness you jerking off to them.

And yknow what that shouldn't be normal anyway, besides consent, who wants to stand there jerking at someone while they just look at you?

yea it was just from the way i read it, like it was him and a girl alone in the hotel room after the comedy show, definitely seems like one of those situations that could end in sex

if they were traumatized that would be very oversensitive and overdramatic. like damn lol its just a guy bating wtf haha. assuming they arent lying about being traumatized

i mean i don't even see how its wrong just to ask to bate in front of a girl. its socially unacceptable but i dont see how its wrong. i mean if you actually did it yea but not just asking.

 

[Rudiger]

yea it was just from the way i read it, like it was him and a girl alone in the hotel room after the comedy show, definitely seems like one of those situations that could end in sex

if they were traumatized that would be very oversensitive and overdramatic. like damn lol its just a guy bating wtf haha. assuming they arent lying about being traumatized

i mean i don't even see how its wrong just to ask to bate in front of a girl. its socially unacceptable but i dont see how its wrong. i mean if you actually did it yea but not just asking.

Well I'm going to jerk off in front of you to teach you a lesson.

THEN we'll see who looks foolish.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Well I'm going to jerk off in front of you to teach you a lesson.

THEN we'll see who looks foolish.

Jerk off and post a video on this thread

 

[blackg]

Jerk off and post a video on this thread

Please don't.

 

[Exodus2011]

Well I'm going to jerk off in front of you to teach you a lesson.

THEN we'll see who looks foolish.

thats literally what i just said was wrong though. simply asking isn't wrong . . . .

"i mean if you actually did it yea but not just asking."

 

[SmoothSailing]

Nobody should really have that right to make someone uncomfortable by asking randomly if you should ship your dick out

Listen up guys, we have some new rules!!!

You no longer have the right to ask for consent. Even just asking makes people uncomfortable so we mustn't allow it.

Please just keep your head down and mind your own business and you should be alright.

Seriously though, come on, I know it's weird, creepy or whatever, but surely we retain the right to be weird and creepy, especially seen as those things are extremely subjective.

 

[Rudiger]

Listen up guys, we have some new rules!!!

You no longer have the right to ask for consent. Even just asking makes people uncomfortable so we mustn't allow it.

Please just keep your head down and mind your own business and you should be alright.

Seriously though, come on, I know it's weird, creepy or whatever, but surely we retain the right to be weird and creepy, especially seen as those things are extremely subjective.

Maybe I was right to mix you up before lol, because the sentiment was pretty clear behind your acknowledgment that it's fucked up.

C'mon I never said we have to keep our heads on the sand and can't look at a woman, that's just being unreasonable.

Yknow there's an huge space of in-betweens that are neither asking to pull your dick off ejaculating everywhere, and avoiding eye contact? It's this thing called flirting and feeling our a situation. If it was socially "not a big deal" or whatever jeanluc says, we'd all be playing the numbers game "asking for consent" risk free.

There would be a lot of guys who would do that, in fact I know a few who have! Literally just go out on a Saturday night and ask 20 girls if they wanna f***, get a lot of abuse and slaps, but eventually one says yes, and that was their "technique". Well for every f*** they get 19+ girls feel pissed off from randomly asking if they just give out their pussy like that to a stranger, and I don't want any female friend or relative thinking that's ok.

Flirting and deciphering what's appropriate in a situation is the hard part, not just autistically blurting out "wanna see my sick so I can c*m in front of you?". And like I say, besides the point but in Louis cks case he is definitely not autistic, there's a clear intent to me that goes beyond just jacking off (though clearly debatable and he's hardly going to admit it).

And again I don't know exactly what the legal requirements or punishment should be, but all I'm saying is that it's socially reprehensible.

As for exo saying it's overdramatic to be traumatised by it?! I mean saying it's overdramatic to pretend you're traumatised, but people can't help what traumatises them!

Everyone concedes that it's incredibly damaging for children but it's like, when you turn 18 and become an adult, your brain is immune to being made felt small or invaded? Just because they've sucked and fucked c**** before, seen p**rn, that's all the same thing essentially and doesn't represent something darker?

 

[Exodus2011]

Maybe I was right to mix you up before lol, because the sentiment was pretty clear behind your acknowledgment that it's fucked up.

C'mon I never said we have to keep our heads on the sand and can't look at a woman, that's just being unreasonable.

Yknow there's an huge space of in-betweens that are neither asking to pull your dick off ejaculating everywhere, and avoiding eye contact? It's this thing called flirting and feeling our a situation. If it was socially "not a big deal" or whatever jeanluc says, we'd all be playing the numbers game "asking for consent" risk free.

There would be a lot of guys who would do that, in fact I know a few who have! Literally just go out on a Saturday night and ask 20 girls if they wanna f***, get a lot of abuse and slaps, but eventually one says yes, and that was their "technique". Well for every f*** they get 19+ girls feel pissed off from randomly asking if they just give out their pussy like that to a stranger, and I don't want any female friend or relative thinking that's ok.

Flirting and deciphering what's appropriate in a situation is the hard part, not just autistically blurting out "wanna see my sick so I can c*m in front of you?". And like I say, besides the point but in Louis cks case he is definitely not autistic, there's a clear intent to me that goes beyond just jacking off (though clearly debatable and he's hardly going to admit it).

And again I don't know exactly what the legal requirements or punishment should be, but all I'm saying is that it's socially reprehensible.

As for explaining saying it's overdramatic to be traumatised by it?! I mean saying it's overdramatic to pretend you're traumatised, but people can't help what traumatises them!

Everyone concedes that it's incredibly damaging for children but it's like, when you turn 18 and become an adult, your brain is immune to being made felt small or invaded? Just because they've sucked and fucked c**** before, seen p*rn, that's all the same thing essentially and doesn't represent something darker?

its asking a question. its not socially reprehensible lol. its way different than asking for straight up sex, thats not comparable

and kids are a lot different than adults come on. obviously some fuzziness but like yea its a dude doing what people do, like it might be kinda disturbing but its laughable that it would traumatize someone. thats some serious snowflake sh*t

 

[SmoothSailing]

C'mon I never said we have to keep our heads on the sand and can't look at a woman, that's just being unreasonable.

I was joking about "keep your heads down".

And again I don't know exactly what the legal requirements or punishment should be, but all I'm saying is that it's socially reprehensible.

Great, probably took you to literally when you said "Nobody should really have that right to make someone uncomfortable by asking randomly if you should ship your dick out".

As for explaining saying it's overdramatic to be traumatised by it?! I mean saying it's overdramatic to pretend you're traumatised, but people can't help what traumatises them!

Agreed, it's a hard thing for me sometimes though. Like I don't want to trivialise peoples problems, but I can't help how I feel about them. When women go on about cat calling I just keep my mouth shut, because it is a real problem for them, something that truly bothers them, I just cannot relate.

Everyone concedes that it's incredibly damaging for children but it's like, when you turn 18 and become an adult, your brain is immune to being made felt small or invaded? Just because they've sucked and fucked c**** before, seen p*rn, that's all the same thing essentially and doesn't represent something darker?

No, not at all , your brain is no more immune. But there are a few key differences, that we have collectively agreed take place about when someone turns 18. 1. that you can now make decisions about your own life, whether they're bad are good your life is now your responsibility. 2. that you now have a certain amount of skill in dealing with people/situations that make you feel small or invaded. Avoidance, social repercussions, legal repercussions etc.

If you can't see how much different this discussion would be if we were talking about children then we may as well stop discussing it because I will never agree.

 

[Rudiger]

its asking a question. its not socially reprehensible lol. its way different than asking for straight up sex, thats not comparable

and kids are a lot different than adults come on. obviously some fuzziness but like yea its a dude doing what people do, like it might be kinda disturbing but its laughable that it would traumatize someone. thats some serious snowflake sh*t

Yeah dude and walking up to someone at the ATM in the dark with a hoodie on, and simply asking "can I have 100 dollars" is just asking for their permission and consent to take money from them.

Point being your "innocent" questions imply actions, there's not a chance this guy could seriously think women enjoy watching him wank. What exactly was in it for them? He knew it was unwanted and put them in a compromising situation.

How is asking to expose yourself in a sexual way completely different from asking to engage in a sexual act? I'm not just saying this for the point of argument but I genuinely think most women would find that even weirder! At least with sex that's a normal human interaction but just asking to stand there while a guy jerks to you?

Please don't do what smooth sailing seems to be doing an push my argument to extremes. Of course an adult brain is more prepared for such content than a children's, but I don't know why you think the adult brain becomes a completely different being from a child's brain. Not even 10% related, from the few years transition to adulthood they are a different animal altogether.

If we can agree that a child is potentially seriously traumatised and very often can develop a lot of emotional issues from such things, why can't an adult even remotely relate to that?

And just to be clear you said it's overdramatic to be traumatised about something, and again it's like, surely it's overdramatic to pretend to be traumatised. I don't even find it unreasonable that this situation made them very uncomfortable and potentially traumatised.

 

[Rudiger]

I was joking about "keep your heads down".



Great, probably took you to literally when you said "Nobody should really have that right to make someone uncomfortable by asking randomly if you should ship your dick out".



Agreed, it's a hard thing for me sometimes though. Like I don't want to trivialise peoples problems, but I can't help how I feel about them. When women go on about cat calling I just keep my mouth shut, because it is a real problem for them, something that truly bothers them, I just cannot relate.




No, not at all , your brain is no more immune. But there are a few key differences, that we have collectively agreed take place about when someone turns 18. 1. that you can now make decisions about your own life, whether they're bad are good your life is now your responsibility. 2. that you now have a certain amount of skill in dealing with people/situations that make you feel small or invaded. Avoidance, social repercussions, legal repercussions etc.

If you can't see how much different this discussion would be if we were talking about children then we may as well stop discussing it because I will never agree.

I think I just made clearer the part about children on my reply to exo.

I thought you were being serious about keeping your heads down etc. And to be honest the whole post itself sort of completely fell out of line with what I re-read earlier after getting you mixed up. You seem to genuinely now be saying we shouldn't even condemn such a question being asked, the only other option being to avoid women completely.

Like c'mon that is what your last post looked like, of that wasn't the case then fair enough but it really didn't look like a joke at least.

 

[Exodus2011]

Yeah dude and walking up to someone at the ATM in the dark with a hoodie on, and simply asking "can I have 100 dollars" is just asking for their permission and consent to take money from them.

Point being your "innocent" questions imply actions, there's not a chance this guy could seriously think women enjoy watching him wank. What exactly was in it for them? He knew it was unwanted and put them in a compromising situation.

How is asking to expose yourself in a sexual way completely different from asking to engage in a sexual act? I'm not just saying this for the point of argument but I genuinely think most women would find that even weirder! At least with sex that's a normal human interaction but just asking to stand there while a guy jerks to you?

Please don't do what smooth sailing seems to be doing an push my argument to extremes. Of course an adult brain is more prepared for such content than a children's, but I don't know why you think the adult brain becomes a completely different being from a child's brain. Not even 10% related, from the few years transition to adulthood they are a different animal altogether.

If we can agree that a child is potentially seriously traumatised and very often can develop a lot of emotional issues from such things, why can't an adult even remotely relate to that?

And just to be clear you said it's overdramatic to be traumatised about something, and again it's like, surely it's overdramatic to pretend to be traumatised. I don't even find it unreasonable that this situation made them very uncomfortable and potentially traumatised.

that wud make someone think their life is in danger. asking someone to bate in front of them . . . . isn't making them think their life is in danger lol. another completely incomparable thing.

anyways even THATs not wrong, its socially dumb yea, for obvious reasons but its not wrong, unless you do it intentionally to scare someone. which seems likely, most wud know that it wud spook people

and yea i'm sure it could have made them "traumatized". still a dumb thing to be traumatized over

as for the second bolded part i was under the impression the women consented to it

 

[SmoothSailing]

I think I just made clearer the part about children on my reply to exo.

I thought you were being serious about keeping your heads down etc. And to be honest the whole post itself sort of completely fell out of line with what I re-read earlier after getting you mixed up. You seem to genuinely now be saying we shouldn't even condemn such a question being asked, the only other option being to avoid women completely.

Like c'mon that is what your last post looked like, of that wasn't the case then fair enough but it really didn't look like a joke at least.

No, seriously I can be overly pedantic, I was responding to your "no one should have the right to ask".

I certainly think it's horrible, weird, wrong, I just don't want it to be illegal, which I guess you didn't actually mean.

Anyhow, from the way I currently picture the situation, without any further context, it certainly should be criticised. It's not just social unawareness, which I often defend, it's purposefully causing fear/confusion/disgust in others.