Low carb diet

[ghg]

You're at least partly wrong. For many people it's the high carb consumption that makes them tired. Their blood sugar levels are going up and down like a yo-yo and that's always a bad thing. Type 2 diabetes can be prevented by eating low-carb and good-carb, that tells it all really. Carbs also prevent fat burning -> fat gets stored in the belly. Eating lots of protein and good fat (butter, olive oil, coconut oil, greasy meat, greasy fish/fish oils) is much more necessary than eating shitloads of carbs. There are many examples of building muscle on low-carb diet for example on one Finnish discussion forum that is specialised in low-carb (and high-fat + protein) dieting. Of course, what you have to remember is that you can't take all the calories from protein, you have to eat fatty stuff instead of carbs. The fat is used for energy.

Here' some interesting studies:

Killer carbs
Control of blood glucose in type 2 diabetes...
Seven Cutting Edge Low-Carb Diet

 

[powersam]

I'm quite certain that you need AT LEAST AS MUCH carbs as you do protein to keep/build muscle. Also wouldn't you always be tired without a source of fast releasing energy? Imo it's Rubbish, it may have some application to really obese people i guess though.

you'll be fine with the carbs you get from vegetables etc, stay away from bread, pasta and potatoes. Our bodies evolved without them in our diet. They helped for awhile because they provided cheap easy energy, but with our increasingly sedentary lifestyles, they do more harm than good.

 

[barcafan]

You're at least partly wrong. For many people it's the high carb consumption that makes them tired. Their blood sugar levels are going up and down like a yo-yo and that's always a bad thing. Type 2 diabetes can be prevented by eating low-carb and good-carb, that tells it all really. Carbs also prevent fat burning -> fat gets stored in the belly. Eating lots of protein and good fat (butter, olive oil, coconut oil, greasy meat, greasy fish/fish oils) is much more necessary than eating shitloads of carbs. There are many examples of building muscle on low-carb diet for example on one Finnish discussion forum that is specialised in low-carb (and high-fat + protein) dieting. Of course, what you have to remember is that you can't take all the calories from protein, you have to eat fatty stuff instead of carbs. The fat is used for energy.

Here' some interesting studies:

Killer carbs
Control of blood glucose in type 2 diabetes...
Seven Cutting Edge Low-Carb Diet

Not all carbs are made equal though. You shouldn't get huge insulin spikes if you're on a relatively LOW GI diet. That's what should be considered; not cutting out carbs, but cutting out the BAD carbs.

 

[barcafan]

I'm quite certain that you need AT LEAST AS MUCH carbs as you do protein to keep/build muscle. Also wouldn't you always be tired without a source of fast releasing energy? Imo it's Rubbish, it may have some application to really obese people i guess though.

you'll be fine with the carbs you get from vegetables etc, stay away from bread, pasta and potatoes. Our bodies evolved without them in our diet. They helped for awhile because they provided cheap easy energy, but with our increasingly sedentary lifestyles, they do more harm than good.

I can come right back and say that being a full blown vegetarian is healthier than being an omnivore, so what's with our canines?

 

[ali777]

I try to have a diet rich in carbs and protein. I get most of my energy from the carbs and I need the protein to keep my muscle weight up.... I lost too much muscle weight in the past, and I'm trying to recover some of that, it's painfully slow processes. (I still think some of my hairloss is related to that)

One major benefit of a low carb diet is it forces you to eat cleaner and stay away from processed food. If you don't figure out some ways to get creative with veggies your variety shrinks.

Broiled salmon steak and mixed green salad for tonight.

I agree with the processed food part, I feel dirty if I eat anything processed. I developed a hatred for processed food and I avoid it like plague. Saying that, it is easy to find clean carbs. I never buy industrially produced bread, I always buy brown bread with seeds in it. My local supermarket bakery or my local bakery make a nice brown bread which is the only bread I eat. Cooking rice, pasta, etc is also not too difficult.

I also buy fresh pasta from my local supermarket. Fresh pasta is an amazing food, I feel so energetic afterwards. I don't know what's the difference between dry and fresh pasta, but the fresh pasta is just clean and pure energy.

I went to my local fishmongers the other day, I wanted to get some "locally sourced" fish. I saw the price tag and straight away I walked out of the shop. I'm all for supporting local businesses but not at that price. It's the same with the butchers, I feel ripped off if I buy anything from the local shops.

I don't know about the US, but over here in the UK "local, seasonal, and organic" seems to be in fashion these days. I grew up in a farming village and we always ate seasonal, so I try to keep it up but the cost and the availability of local and seasonal produce is not right for me. I find it sad that bananas imported from another continents are the cheapest fruit to buy. There is something wrong with the world.

 

[HughJass]

this thread needs to die

 

[powersam]

I'm quite certain that you need AT LEAST AS MUCH carbs as you do protein to keep/build muscle. Also wouldn't you always be tired without a source of fast releasing energy? Imo it's Rubbish, it may have some application to really obese people i guess though.

you'll be fine with the carbs you get from vegetables etc, stay away from bread, pasta and potatoes. Our bodies evolved without them in our diet. They helped for awhile because they provided cheap easy energy, but with our increasingly sedentary lifestyles, they do more harm than good.

I can come right back and say that being a full blown vegetarian is healthier than being an omnivore, so what's with our canines?

Yes you could say that, but you would be incorrect. The best possible omnivorous diet is healthier than the best possible vegetarian diet.

 

[ghg]

Not all carbs are made equal though. You shouldn't get huge insulin spikes if you're on a relatively LOW GI diet. That's what should be considered; not cutting out carbs, but cutting out the BAD carbs.

I'm not cutting out all carbs, I do eat a little fruit and for example peanuts along with a variety of vegetables. I do get around 30-50 grams of carbs a day. I wouldn't consider it a low gi diet if you eat as much carbs as you do protein. ATM I try to eat around 130 grams of protein and about 150-200 grams of fat a day. I'm not very strict about these though, I'll just eat when I feel like it. I've been doing this for almost a year so I know what I can eat and what I can't.

Low-fat and high-carb diet is an absolute murder for me, I tried it (stupid me) before I knew anything about the dangers of fast carbs. I was hungry all f*****g day no matter how much of that low-fat stuff I ate.

 

[ghg]

I try to have a diet rich in carbs and protein. I get most of my energy from the carbs and I need the protein to keep my muscle weight up.... I lost too much muscle weight in the past, and I'm trying to recover some of that, it's painfully slow processes. (I still think some of my hairloss is related to that)

One major benefit of a low carb diet is it forces you to eat cleaner and stay away from processed food. If you don't figure out some ways to get creative with veggies your variety shrinks.

Broiled salmon steak and mixed green salad for tonight.

I agree with the processed food part, I feel dirty if I eat anything processed. I developed a hatred for processed food and I avoid it like plague. Saying that, it is easy to find clean carbs. I never buy industrially produced bread, I always buy brown bread with seeds in it. My local supermarket bakery or my local bakery make a nice brown bread which is the only bread I eat. Cooking rice, pasta, etc is also not too difficult.

I also buy fresh pasta from my local supermarket. Fresh pasta is an amazing food, I feel so energetic afterwards. I don't know what's the difference between dry and fresh pasta, but the fresh pasta is just clean and pure energy.

I went to my local fishmongers the other day, I wanted to get some "locally sourced" fish. I saw the price tag and straight away I walked out of the shop. I'm all for supporting local businesses but not at that price. It's the same with the butchers, I feel ripped off if I buy anything from the local shops.

I don't know about the US, but over here in the UK "local, seasonal, and organic" seems to be in fashion these days. I grew up in a farming village and we always ate seasonal, so I try to keep it up but the cost and the availability of local and seasonal produce is not right for me. I find it sad that bananas imported from another continents are the cheapest fruit to buy. There is something wrong with the world.

If you eat loads of carbs all day it means that your blood sugar levels are always high. That can't be good. I would guess that it feels like you need the carbs to be energetic because if you don't eat them for a while your blood sugar starts to decline.

 

[barcafan]

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Source. I dont believe you.

 

[powersam]

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Source. I dont believe you.

I'll provide a source when you do mate.

 

[powersam]

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pu ... gan_.shtml

 

[barcafan]

http://www.vegetarian-diet.info/vegetar ... lthier.htm

http://health.msn.com/fitness/articlepa ... =100166734

 

[CCS]

I gotta belly full of bacon and avocado

It takes more cortisol to release fat to burn than to release glycogen to burn. Cortisol, in high enough amounts, can liberate amino acids too. We need to burn fat, like when we sleep or when we are dieting. Why burn more than we have to, when it might cost us a tiny bit of muscle?

Fast twitch muscle fibers can't burn fat. Only glucose. If you are not using ALL your muscle fibers, they can atrophy, or might not develop as fully as you want. Blood sugar also drives amino acids into the muscles.

No glycogen, no energy readilly available. Want to live that way?

Storing fat as fat is very efficient. And very hard if even possible to store it as glycogen. Storing protein as fat is 75% efficient. You can eat more, and store less. Your cell's have carbohydrate structures in them. Why not eat all building blocks in the right proportions?

I'm done with my rant. your choice. watch your cholesterol, you fat eaters.

 

[Cassin]

Thanks CCS....

I have a very good idea what I am doing, but thank you.

 

[CCS]

I agree we need to avoid bread, crackers, and other NON-FIBER foods. This is because they release carbs into the blood faster than it can be stored as glycogen. It is better to let the intestines store food for us. Fiber makes our chewed food more viscus, so nutrients slowly diffuse into the blood as the food is slowly passed along the tract. But not too much fiber, or you can push it through too fast.

On work days I sip 1% milk throughout the days. On non-work days I eat rice mixed with fish, limon, and cocoa powder.

 

[ghg]

I gotta belly full of bacon and avocado

I'm done with my rant. your choice. watch your cholesterol, you fat eaters.

You can't be serious :jackit: . I didn't think anyone believed in that fat means high cholesterol bullshit anymore. You surprise me time after time. Maybe it's too much carb that has messed your thinking?