masturbate can cause hairloss

diffuse_curse

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i know what u r talking about..internet scam,over masturbate..etc..but i don t care about these sites..they may be dishonest..i tell my observation..and i read similar story..over-dosing is bad for everthing not only masturbation,ejucalation..when somebody masturbates,some reactions occur in body..can t a high testeron level effect DHT level?..if not...so why do we observe thinnig and hairloss in some people who start body bulding?..or if we enject testeron a woman,can we expect hairloss?( i read smt about this)..firstly we can say"high testeron level may effect DHT level"..is it ok?..so masturbation boost testeron?(if i m wrong,correct me)..so why not a link (for an over dose for some sensitive men)?..i know..u r right now,the gardener..perheaps we will be right..
 

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Gardener,
thank you for your well written piece. For everytime this thread comes up, I'll try to send people over to your post.

Masturbation is totally normal, as long as it doesn't interfere with your lifestyle. When one starts becoming a shut-in, spending most of his or her Saturday nights inside whacking it, well, then it's time to stop.

It does have certain hormonal effects. However, there's no evidence to substantiate any assumption that masturbation causes (helps to cause) male pattern baldness.

I wish this thread were over now, because now I have to go whack it.
 

iamnaked

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I sometimes wish there was a separate forum for people to talk about this kind of sh*t. The Wanking and Jizzing forum or something. Often I'm just like... dude. Too much information.
 

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just because a topic does not pop up on pubmed does not mean that it does not exist. i do pubmed searches everyday. if i enter a search on the research i am doing now i will get no hits, because no one has looked at it yet and i haven't published it yet.

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Axon

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You'd think people would base statements on more than conjecture and assumptions about lifestyle. But that would require actual intelligence, not just ridiculous, slightly self-loathing, made-up bullshit.
 

Z

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will smashing my girlfriend's fartbox in cause hairloss?
 

northeastguy

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It doesn't matter if it's masturbation or sex, ejactulation is ejaculation...your body can't tell the difference. I do think over-doing it can cause hair loss.

Just curious:
Georgia Tech University wellness website
Menshealth.com
From the Oregon State University health website
smartersex.org
When did these become the law on what masturbation does to your body?


It is my belief that higher sexual activity will cause more androgens, thus more dht, thus more hair loss. I've lost a lot of hair, but for my own sake I've stopped. I think some of you are in denial, you love spankin it so much that you refuse to look at the possibility that we may be correct about this.
 

The Gardener

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It's not the masturbation that causes the hormones and horniness

It's the hormones and horniness that cause the masturbation


I think the "cause and effect" relationship is completely the other way around

In another example, you eat because you are hungry. You don't get hungry because you eat.
 

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dear Axon,fistly we are sorry..we have no actuel intelligent..this is not scientific congress..so u should be more gentle and free..and we don't compete to win nobel..and we don't claim masturbate cause hairloss(i apologised for topic name.a question mark is necessary)..we say"AN OVER DOSE in SOME PEOPLE..PERHEAPS there is a link between thinning and jerking"....the gardener..i don t think so..if i can train myself for 3 times a week,then body is contented with it and don t need more..eating is same...this is a habit..u can be full with a portion meal..if u eat more then your body can t be full only a portion later..i masturbate.but not only in my horny times..i think this is related free times,loneliness..and i have few hobbies..and the most important thing is flashings in tv in computer in public..i believe if i live in mountain,i do it rarely..furthermore thanx to the gardener because of answering me and tolerating...this is end for me in this topic..i don t wanna talk about it anymore..so please don t use provocative sentences..we are already hurt..so no reason fur hurting each other..i have it since 14 or earlier..i can t remember exactly..in my teenages..can u imagine my feelings,my position?in school?in public?..if hairloss happens in 20s 30s,i can understand and accept it easily..
 

Aplunk1

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Z said:
will smashing my girlfriend's fartbox in cause hairloss?

Yes, it will cause hairloss.

By the way, you need to breakup with her. I don't recommend dating a girl who has a fatbox. :)
 

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northeast guy

can you relate to any of this?

my hair has been thinner than average since birth. my father and my mother's father both have extensive hairloss.

i figured out how to masturbate around age 11 or 12. by age 13 i was told i had a bald spot.

at age 18 i had a baloon scalp reduction, my first strip at age 19 and my 2nd at age 21 (total 3000 grafts), a scar revision the next year, and then i was depressed for most of my twenties because i had no hope with no more donor hair on my scalp. i'm currently 28.

i just had 8046 grafts from my body (chest, abdomen, legs, armpit) transplanted to my head, and they are growing in already. i have not been this happy and healthy in years, physically, mentally, and emotionally. hopefully i will have a full head of hair by the age of 30, 5 years earlier than i was "praying" for with hair multiplication, which may not become commercially available for another 15-20 years.

this is the first time in my life that my hairloss is not getting worse and is actually getting progressively better. i was told that hopefully i will not need another procedure, but if i am not happy it is nice to know that i have around 20,000 more body hairs that i could transplant and that the technology exists to make that happen.

the one aspect of my life that correlates with the duration of my hairloss is masturbation, which i have done virtually every day since i was 11 or 12. my last girlfriend was really hot and we were having sex 4-5 times daily, and after a while my testicals started to hurt, possibly a varicocele, so much that sex was not enjoyable.

this is the first time in my life since i started living on my own, which was high school, that i actually want to take care of myself. i've completely changed my diet, started exercising daily, quit smoking cigarettes, and in general i'm doing everything i can to promote the health of my hair. this is why i was wondering if anyone else felt that masturbation could have influenced their hairloss.

i've stopped masturbating now because it is actually in my best interest. i'm not saying other people should stop. i just want to inform other people who might have similar experiences that i have stopped, so that they can follow my progress and decide on their own if this might work for them too.

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scientist said:
i figured out how to masturbate around age 11 or 12. by age 13 i was told i had a bald spot.

the one aspect of my life that correlates with the duration of my hairloss is masturbation...

Judging by these quotes, I would say the underlying correlation is not masturbation and hair loss, but hitting puberty and hairloss.
 

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northeast guy

can you relate to any of this?

my hair has been thinner than average since birth. my father and my mother's father both have extensive hairloss.

i figured out how to masturbate around age 11 or 12. by age 13 i was told i had a bald spot.

at age 18 i had a baloon scalp reduction, my first strip at age 19 and my 2nd at age 21 (total 3000 grafts), a scar revision the next year, and then i was depressed for most of my twenties because i had no hope with no more donor hair on my scalp. i'm currently 28.

i just had 8046 grafts from my body (chest, abdomen, legs, armpit) transplanted to my head, and they are growing in already. i have not been this happy and healthy in years, physically, mentally, and emotionally. hopefully i will have a full head of hair by the age of 30, 5 years earlier than i was "praying" for with hair multiplication, which may not become commercially available for another 15-20 years.

this is the first time in my life that my hairloss is not getting worse and is actually getting progressively better. i was told that hopefully i will not need another procedure, but if i am not happy it is nice to know that i have around 20,000 more body hairs that i could transplant and that the technology exists to make that happen.

the one aspect of my life that correlates with the duration of my hairloss is masturbation, which i have done virtually every day since i was 11 or 12. my last girlfriend was really hot and we were having sex 4-5 times daily, and after a while my testicals started to hurt, possibly a varicocele, so much that sex was not enjoyable.

this is the first time in my life since i started living on my own, which was high school, that i actually want to take care of myself. i've completely changed my diet, started exercising daily, quit smoking cigarettes, and in general i'm doing everything i can to promote the health of my hair. this is why i was wondering if anyone else felt that masturbation could have influenced their hairloss.

i've stopped masturbating now because it is actually in my best interest. i'm not saying other people should stop. i just want to inform other people who might have similar experiences that i have stopped, so that they can follow my progress and decide on their own if this might work for them too.

s

I find this story unbelievable. I've never heard of anyone transplanting body hair to the head. What doctor does this, and where is he located?
 

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Can I relate?

Only somewhat.

I've not had any transplant or scalp reduction...and won't. I started early, around 13 or 14 and did it daily, without thinking it being excessive. Now I realize it was over-doing it. Now I have conditioned myself not to do it at all. However, I feel that my body has been changed irreversibly. I noticed my loss at 18, thought very little of it because my hair was thick thick thick. It grew fast and had to have it cut every 2 weeks (i kept it somewhat long). At 19, I knew I was losing it, and fast. I got on Propecia, it didn't do much. I kept losing it. I tried everything...spironolactone, dutasteride, Cyproterone Acetate, minoxidil( Oral and Topical - btw oral worked but grew so much body hair) and many other "experimental treatments."

Now I'm 21 and really going fast. I'll be bald by 22 probably. Do I put blame on masturbation? Absolutely. Wish I'd never started, or at least had more control.

Gardner, I feel your theory is incorrect. But who am I to say for sure? I think that the masturbation causes more hormones to be produced.
You eat to stay alive...not eating will kill you. Not whacking it will not kill you. Two completely different things here. I think diffuse_curse had it right. But like him I feel this isn't something that should continue to be argued. We have our position on this, y'all have yours. Guess we can agree to disagree here. We're all here for the same basic reason...
 

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While I have no specific evidence, I am of the strong opinion that reading hairloss forums might cause hairloss (in some people). For example, I read this forum and I am losing my hair. In fact, everyone here seems to be losing their hair...
 

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you don't need specific evidence. just share your opinions and experiences and others will take them for what they're worth. i've actually started spending a lot of time reading hairloss forums and my hairloss is getting much better, i guess it's possible that we're different in some way, even being 99% genetically identical and all.

northeast guy, don't get a scalp reduction or a strip scar. i wish i had not and just shaved my head before my whole hair transplant journey started. there are newer techniques employed today that are far less invasive, which is very hopeful, and if you have good body hair and enough cash it is theoretically possible to cure baldness. best wishes

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Peeps!!!!

I think there's a lot more younger guys (ie still in teens) experiencing hairloss than there were in previous generations??? Could this be to more frequent j-off due to the excessive proliferation of ponrnogrpahy and the ease of access to it.

I mean, I know i wouldnt dare buy a top shelf mag or rent/buy a video, but i would watch downloaded p**rn. Consequently, if i didnt have access to the net, i wouldnt ever masterbate more frequently than once a week, if that. Just to add, i only REALLY noticed my hair thinning AFTER i started jackin-off at around the age of 16. HOWEVER, i did notice that my hair had become progressively harder to style and that its quality was decreasing since id hit puberty (12)

So, basically, i know the guy who said jackin-off can accelerate hairloss doesnt have any evidence, but id love to see the guys who say it doesnt prove that it doesnt.

till then i guess its moot.

BUT, having cut down from like once a day to around 1/week or 1 every 10 days (i have now cut down for about 2 months), i can say that my my scalp itch has really decreased. Previously, even when id put conditioner on my hair for like 10 mins, my scalp would tingle and itch in places.

Also, before cutting down, i tried jackin-off every day for about 6 weeks, at the end i got quite sick of it, forcing myself to masterbate evryday even though i didnt feel like it and i could see that my hair had become slightyly thinner and people were remarking about it.

AND how come is it, that after masterbating on day 1, you wanna do it again on day 2 or 3, but on day 5 or 6, you dont wanna do it so much.

i simply interpret that as high androgen levels for a couple of days after masterbation (ie. higher than baseline), then they fall back to baseline on days 5-6. BUT if you do masterbate again on day 3, the androgen levels WILL stay higher than baseline, thus accelerating male pattern baldness. Over a long period of time, higher androgen activity will accelerate hairloss???

Prolly incorrect logic, but whatever.

Peaccceee!
Dont get upset over hairloss!! its okaaaay!!! just keep yourself occupied with sports, music, friends, socialising, playing, getting hi, whatever!!
 

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i agree that with the evolution of the internet over the past decade or two, access to p**rn has never been this easy in history, so it's likely that younger males will start masturbating at an earlier age and more often, especially since guys hitting puberty tend to have little willpower and don't think about the consequences of their actions, especially when it comes to sex

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