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No, I can't agree with that. That is a terrible, old man wish I had hair, hair style. You know, judging by what you think of that, maybe your style stinks. You might just have nerd style, which is not conducive in getting girls. At least getting your foot in the door based on your looks.

I remember when I was younger I used to spout the same crap as he does

then I realised later on , I actually had a lot of work to do to make myself attractive
 

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I remember when I was younger I used to spout the same crap as he does

then I realised later on , I actually had a lot of work to do to make myself attractive
Its just a poor mindset amd natural ability. N then try to back it up with erroneously saying all the bald guys here are prime ministers besides hair. False. If theyre wetting their pants dating- they're not. These nerds need not but to just ask what they're doing wrong n what they can change, n what they should expect as a ceiling. Not everyone is a hall of famer, but nearly everyone can contribute in some way. Some can't play at all. But it's not because of f*****g hair.
 

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nonsense. I was for all intents and purposes- bald. Sure there were younger women who would turn an eye the other way and not give me a shot, but I made it work. I got plenty as a 35 year old balding man. Even at 30, I was heavily balding. Really got bad at around 28. I did just fine, even then, and I was pretty young, and fresh out of a long term relationship, with a kid no less!

I don't want to hear it. If you can't do well, it's a you thing. Trying to find a sole, tangible, viewable reason you're shitting the bed in your dating life is a scapegoat, unless there's some sort of extreme deformity- which is balding is not. If your self-confidence is trash, number 1, if your hygiene is trash, if your physical conditioning is trash, if your style is trash, if your social aptitude is trash, and if you're just not cool, you will suck in dating. Bottom line. Plenty of guys who have no hair who do just fine because they are adept in other areas.
All I will say is that times are different nowadays. "Plenty of guys who have no hair who do just fine because they are adept in other areas." That's demonstrably false. There really aren't many or any of these guys.


I remember when I was younger I used to spout the same crap as he does

then I realised later on , I actually had a lot of work to do to make myself attractive

That's it exactly. That is what hair gives you. It gives you the chance of doing work and the work resulting in you becoming more attractive. Bald guys don't have that.
 

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All I will say is that times are different nowadays. "Plenty of guys who have no hair who do just fine because they are adept in other areas." That's demonstrably false. There really aren't many or any of these guys.




That's it exactly. That is what hair gives you. It gives you the chance of doing work and the work resulting in you becoming more attractive. Bald guys don't have that.
Nowadays? What do you think, im 60? Im 30 f*****g 8, 35 was less than 3 years ago. Even at 30 online dating was highly prevalent. You have to be kidding. Stop w the excuses. You know im right.
 

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Nowadays? What do you think, im 60? Im 30 f*****g 8, 35 was less than 3 years ago. Even at 30 online dating was highly prevalent. You have to be kidding. Stop w the excuses. You know im right.
Then I'm totally surprised. Bald guys on here haven't felt what you have. We go on online dating apps and get no response at all on any service, paid or free. We go out approaching and within 30 seconds every person that we talk to has to get going. It feels like there is no way through. So I am genuinely surprised and want to hear more about how you did it. Firstly, were you sporting a full on Larry David/Michael Jordan cut?
 

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Then I'm totally surprised. Bald guys on here haven't felt what you have. We go on online dating apps and get no response at all on any service, paid or free. We go out approaching and within 30 seconds every person that we talk to has to get going. It feels like there is no way through. So I am genuinely surprised and want to hear more about how you did it. Firstly, were you sporting a full on Larry David/Michael Jordan cut?
Haha no. Look at my thread about taking finasteride. You'll see how bad it was. Not Costanza bad, but it might as well have been.

Honestly. If I, when now, an having an off night- im finished. I won't get sh*t. Not good Looking Women anyway. But if im on, i feel like anything i want. And I'm no young man anymore, and I have a kid- a huge detriment. And i don't want anymore, and I'm open about it.

When i was younger n balding--- Same scenario.

Now online- idk. I haven't done it much since i was about 34, balding, n i did ok. Of course if i said i didn't have a kid on a my profile it was better haha, but still did ok on the up n up. But it still was less than when i was in my late 20s
Just is what it is, I'm an old timer now.

But in person its nearly the same now, as it was 10 years ago. Id say i have to 'on' a bit more now, but it works.

Like i said, its confidence first n foremost- without it you're pretty well fucked. But after that, being in shape, style, n being fun w women n not talking to them differently, outside of some light flirting, than u would your friends or whatever.

I know it sounds cliche, but it is true. I have said to friends of mine that suck at it, change your style, change your approach.
 

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Haha no. Look at my thread about taking finasteride. You'll see how bad it was. Not Costanza bad, but it might as well have been.

Honestly. If I, when now, an having an off night- im finished. I won't get sh*t. Not good Looking Women anyway. But if im on, i feel like anything i want. And I'm no young man anymore, and I have a kid- a huge detriment. And i don't want anymore, and I'm open about it.

When i was younger n balding--- Same scenario.

Now online- idk. I haven't done it much since i was about 34, balding, n i did ok. Of course if i said i didn't have a kid on a my profile it was better haha, but still did ok on the up n up. But it still was less than when i was in my late 20s
Just is what it is, I'm an old timer now.

But in person its nearly the same now, as it was 10 years ago. Id say i have to 'on' a bit more now, but it works.

Like i said, its confidence first n foremost- without it you're pretty well fucked. But after that, being in shape, style, n being fun w women n not talking to them differently, outside of some light flirting, than u would your friends or whatever.

I know it sounds cliche, but it is true. I have said to friends of mine that suck at it, change your style, change your approach.
This is all lovely to hear but I just looked at your photos. But it seems like you had an incredible head of hair for a 34 year old. You could have combed forward (most bald guys have to comb from left to right or right to left like Bobby Charlton did). Are you sure that your results are representative of a fully bald guy with a Larry David or Patrick Stewart haircut? Is it possible that people, who are not all Norwood aware, didn't fully notice your hair loss?
 

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This is all lovely to hear but I just looked at your photos. But it seems like you had an incredible head of hair for a 34 year old. You could have combed forward (most bald guys have to comb from left to right or right to left like Bobby Charlton did). Are you sure that your results are representative of a fully bald guy with a Larry David or Patrick Stewart haircut? Is it possible that people, who are not all Norwood aware, didn't fully notice your hair loss?
I never said it was like that. No people knew n itd get commented on. Didn't look good. Couldnt do anything w it.
 

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yeah that is something i would also like to know, because most act like they are...
Shaved my head completely with a razor at aged 24......43 now.

I've lead and bled the life of a fully bald specimen since the aforementioned, know the perils of said "look".

Two realistic choices

1-Be the unassuming horseshoe nerd who MAY get a long-term relationship. Find someone who is your standard, focus on other things rather than appearance.

2-Be the big hairy scary bald monster type ie the bouncer, the boxer, the drug-dealer looking f****r. Get (potentially) many women for a straddle. Hard pressed to find a woman who want's to actually be with him. Obsess over beard and body. Obtains respect out of fear. Most will detest.......
 

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Shaved my head completely with a razor at aged 24......43 now.

I've lead and bled the life of a fully bald specimen since the aforementioned, know the perils of said "look".

Two realistic choices

1-Be the unassuming horseshoe nerd who MAY get a long-term relationship. Find someone who is your standard, focus on other things rather than appearance.

2-Be the big hairy scary bald monster type ie the bouncer, the boxer, the drug-dealer looking f****r. Get (potentially) many women for a straddle. Hard pressed to find a woman who want's to actually be with him. Obsess over beard and body. Obtains respect out of fear. Most will detest.......
well depends, you often hear that women like big bald beard... but most likely most have to hit the gym hard to get big... on the other hand, most are going to the gym anyway...
 

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well depends, you often hear that women like big bald beard... but most likely most have to hit the gym hard to get big... on the other hand, most are going to the gym anyway...
Granted, since I've grown a big ginger/blonde birds nest on Mandible that Tyr himself would be proud to adorn, I've had a few women tell me I'm handsome etc...but it's just words.

Had a 19yr old tell me she fancied me the first time she saw me, says I'm good looking.....but it's just words.
 

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Then I'm totally surprised. Bald guys on here haven't felt what you have. We go on online dating apps and get no response at all on any service, paid or free. We go out approaching and within 30 seconds every person that we talk to has to get going. It feels like there is no way through. So I am genuinely surprised and want to hear more about how you did it. Firstly, were you sporting a full on Larry David/Michael Jordan cut?

...Yet you have had success from dating apps recently

Dating is just hard even for guys with hair - I’ve matched with 20 women in the past week and a lot of my interactions have gone nowhere
 

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...Yet you have had success from dating apps recently

Dating is just hard even for guys with hair - I’ve matched with 20 women in the past week and a lot of my interactions have gone nowhere
Gone nowhere because? Are you taking the lead and asking them out or just going back and forth with repetitive mundane questions.
 

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Gone nowhere because? Are you taking the lead and asking them out or just going back and forth with repetitive mundane questions.

Some don’t respond, and when they do they ghost me after 1 or 2 messages
 

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...Yet you have had success from dating apps recently

Dating is just hard even for guys with hair - I’ve matched with 20 women in the past week and a lot of my interactions have gone nowhere
It seems like each post you make you are strengthening the argument of "hair is everything, bald is nothing". 20 matches in a week is 20 opportunities. They all went badly but a bald guy is never in his life going to get 20 opportunities on online dating systems in a single week. If it really is a numbers game, then the numbers are stacked wildly against the bald guys. Each opportunity is not only a chance to have great, fulfilling experiences but it is also a chance to fail and learn. Bald guys have less of both. Each opportunity you have increases the size of the gap between guys with hair and bald guys. So baldness is like a tax that is regularly paid.
 

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It seems like each post you make you are strengthening the argument of "hair is everything, bald is nothing". 20 matches in a week is 20 opportunities. They all went badly but a bald guy is never in his life going to get 20 opportunities on online dating systems in a single week. If it really is a numbers game, then the numbers are stacked wildly against the bald guys. Each opportunity is not only a chance to have great, fulfilling experiences but it is also a chance to fail and learn. Bald guys have less of both. Each opportunity you have increases the size of the gap between guys with hair and bald guys. So baldness is like a tax that is regularly paid.
It’s about quality not quantity

I’d rather have a fraction of that and be with a high quality person than having lots of matches that go nowhere

also life is not fair, by your logic, are you going to start complaining that there are people richer than you?

You should focus on creating opportunities with what you have going for you and taking them
 
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