MSM supplement showing signs of new growth

[fatelephant]

This is my progress so far ... the left photo is "baseline" ... zero treatment.

There's definitely some small hairs in the right hand photo around my hair-line and temples that weren't there before and have only become noticeable in the last week or so.

I just find it incredibly hard to believe that it is MSM. Especially after just one week and also considering I had a noticeable shed about a month ago ... which was 2 months after starting minoxidil ... which is exactly the timeline you'd expect for minoxidil ... shed a few weeks after starting ... first noticeable results in about 3 months. Right on queue.

So I don't think it's MSM. But I'll keep taking it in case.

Photo Link: https://i.ibb.co/4YY2SBb/2022-01-12-comparison-to-start.png

P.S. ... for all you Norwood 1's freaking out about your hair ... ^^^ that is what going bald looks like. And it's not that bad. Chill out.

 

[fatelephant]

I had similar thing when I started MSM. Still noticing increased volume 2 months in.

Are you still attempting to reduce sebum/sebum plugs? Appologies if I've got user mixed up but recall you talking about this in another thread recently.

I was never really attempting to "reduce sebum/plugs" ... but I have been doing minimum of 5 minutes of moderately hard head-massage 6 days out of 7 (I take one day off after micro-needling to let my scalp recover).

 

[5minutesbeforemiracle]

Maybe you didn't read the thread as it developed but a lot of people see these initial gains on MSM. I guess minoxidil or finasteride or whatever you decide to give credit just decides to start working when you start this thing huh? I noticed little hairs too after a week, did minoxidil start working after 1.5 years in my case?

Actually I read through the entire thread haha. I'm not discounting anyone's experiences with MSM, however 3.5 months after starting minoxidil is a perfectly normal time to start seeing hairs grow. And minoxidil is much more powerful than MSM

 

[losingbattle88]

Actually I read through the entire thread haha. I'm not discounting anyone's experiences with MSM, however 3.5 months after starting minoxidil is a perfectly normal time to start seeing hairs grow. And minoxidil is much more powerful than MSM

MSM is usless for hair. I used even organic MSM powder for years with vitamin C hair kept getting thinner People here are so desperate and delusional its unreal. It didnt even reduce my shedding.

 

[fatelephant]

MSM is usless for hair. I used even organic MSM powder for years with vitamin C hair kept getting thinner People here are so desperate and delusional its unreal. It didnt even reduce my shedding.

Yeah it's crazy. Especially considering that judging by all the photos I've seen so far, I'm the only one on the bloody forum that is actually going bald. ... I'm sure that's not true of course. But sure are a lot of crazy NW0 & NW1's with great hair freaking the f--k out over nothing.

Anyway ... regarding the MSM, you could be right. I don't know. The anecdotal evidence in this thread was enough for me to try it. But it is just that ... anecdotal, so take with a grain of salt. But I think it's perfectly possible it could have some small synergistic effect when combined with other treatments. Same with things like head-massage. And if not ... well, nothing lost.

P.S. you said you took 4 grams, right? Seems everyone who has had results here is taking 10+ grams at least.

 

[losingbattle88]

Yeah it's crazy. Especially considering that judging by all the photos I've seen so far, I'm the only one on the bloody forum that is actually going bald. ... I'm sure that's not true of course. But sure are a lot of crazy NW0 & NW1's with great hair freaking the f--k out over nothing.

Anyway ... regarding the MSM, you could be right. I don't know. The anecdotal evidence in this thread was enough for me to try it. But it is just that ... anecdotal, so take with a grain of salt. But I think it's perfectly possible it could have some small synergistic effect when combined with other treatments. Same with things like head-massage. And if not ... well, nothing lost.

P.S. you said you took 4 grams, right? Seems everyone who has had results here is taking 10+ grams at least.

Now i take 4000mg But years ago i took table spoons of msm didnt do jack.

 

[fatelephant]

Now i take 4000mg But years ago i took table spoons of msm didnt do jack.

Yeah ... I'm well aware that most of these things that sounds "too good to be true" ... well, are.

In any case, I'll stick with it at least a little while. Y'know. "Just in case".

 

[Lumalux]

Not to beat a dead horse, but if MSM does in fact encourage hair growth, wouldn't it be apparent in follicles all over the body? I've not heard anyone mention this. Meaning if it's gonna stimulate head hair growth, it should be readily apparent all over the body. I've been using it for about a month (maybe a little more) as an adjunct to oral Minoxidil, and I can't say it has accelerated the process. I was already getting gains just from the Minoxidil, but after reading about some who lauded MSM's benefits (here and elsewhere), I thought it couldn't hurt to add it to my regimen.

 

[fatelephant]

Not to beat a dead horse, but if MSM does in fact encourage hair growth, wouldn't it be apparent in follicles all over the body? I've not heard anyone mention this. Meaning if it's gonna stimulate head hair growth, it should be readily apparent all over the body. I've been using it for about a month (maybe a little more) as an adjunct to oral Minoxidil, and I can't say it has accelerated the process. I was already getting gains just from the Minoxidil, but after reading about some who lauded MSM's benefits (here and elsewhere), I thought it couldn't hurt to add it to my regimen.

Who knows? I'm not saying it works on either thing, but what we do know is that body hair and head hair react pretty differently. Finasteride, for example, I believe lessens body-hair while increasing head-hair.

The only thing I can think of for body-hair, apart from anabolic steroids which definitely make people hairier, is minoxidil. There's plenty of evidence for that working on other places but the scalp.

P.S. I'm definitely not suggesting you take steroids. It could really f-ck up your natural hormones badly.

 

[Lumalux]

The thing with finasteride is that it acts hormonally. It decreases or stops the cause of head hair loss rather than causing it to grow. Head hair loss and axillary hair react differently to hormonal changes. So I was trying to determine how MSM acts - if it just increases hair growth in general.

 

[losingbattle88]

Man you're f*****g trolling now, it absolutely makes a difference. Before at any point in time in the last 3 years if I felt my head I'd get that scalp feel you get when your density has gone to sh*t. And after my time on MSM now it actually feels like touching thick hair again I won't be as ashamed if someone runs their hand through my hair because it feels strong af

Hell I HOPE it doesn't do anything for you bro

Stop crying u little ugly delusional penguin.

 

[losingbattle88]

Nah you know what man you're good I'd rather less people get this hair quality tbh

Mmm I wanna touch and smell your hair boyo.

 

[losingbattle88]

Oh I bet you would Biden what's your Norwood anyway ?

Nw2.5 with diffuse thinning boyo.

 

[losingbattle88]

I'm NW1 mostly general even diffuse I'd say at NW3 you become irredeemable save for some miracle. I'd say this stuff is big for mainly diffuse thinners it's done the most for my hair that's why I got excited about it

Whats your regiment? Full. I dont know why i continue with dutasteride when it dont stop me from balding. Im Giving Up. Sucks but someday i gotta accept my fate...

 

[Renovation]

I'm glad I started following this thread from the start. I'm not going back thorough it now to check but the number of people who report drastically reduced shedding, overall better condition of hair, increased libido ( this doesn't always point to increased DHT btw) better joint movement etc etc outnumber those who say MSM does nothing by about 10 to 1 in my estimations having read it all from day one.

I've never touched minoxidil for 15 years and wouldnt touch finasteride if you paid me and my hair is better since starting MSM. I've settled on 5g per day which is below what a lot of others are taking. Also had initial new growth which was clear as day after a week or two, posted the pics on this thread, cant say they continued to grow but who knows maybe they all shed and are slowly coming through as can see loads baby hairs now. Hair cycles are very drawn out and very random. This threads only been going a couple of months.

 

[Renovation]

This is my progress so far ... the left photo is "baseline" ... zero treatment.

There's definitely some small hairs in the right hand photo around my hair-line and temples that weren't there before and have only become noticeable in the last week or so.

I just find it incredibly hard to believe that it is MSM. Especially after just one week and also considering I had a noticeable shed about a month ago ... which was 2 months after starting minoxidil ... which is exactly the timeline you'd expect for minoxidil ... shed a few weeks after starting ... first noticeable results in about 3 months. Right on queue.

So I don't think it's MSM. But I'll keep taking it in case.

Photo Link: https://i.ibb.co/4YY2SBb/2022-01-12-comparison-to-start.png

P.S. ... for all you Norwood 1's freaking out about your hair ... ^^^ that is what going bald looks like. And it's not that bad. Chill out.

Thats looking pretty decent progress whatever is helping you. I've not touch minoxidil in years and wouldnt go near finasteride and after 1 or 2 weeks on MSM I had new growth, no doubt about it, posted the pics near start of this thread. 6 weeks later my hair is better in volume but hard to track progress closely as I have it long and it's diffuse rather than receded. Now have loads of baby hair which may be from the new ones shedding quickly, who knows. Got to give any new treatment 6-9 months before judging and since my shedding is almost non existent since starting MSM I'm in no rush to stop taking it.

And on sebum, sebum plugs might be a swear word around these parts, but whether they help with hairloss or not they are a thing. It's a medical term for trapped sebum anywhere on your skins surface so if your removing sebum from your scalp you are in effect removing plugs.

Sebum is great for hair...in theory. But even bald areas produce sebum. So if you have a healthy scalp with 100,000 hairs you have enough sebum and all good. If you lose 50,000 hairs you still get enough sebum for 100,000 and that is, in my opinion, a huge factor in accelerating hairloss. Especially when someone's hair is shaved as there's no hair for the excess oil to cling onto.

BTW iv'e read several times that sulphur (MSM) reduces excess sebum production which is why its a great thing to take for acne. So I'm not going off topic on this lol

 

[fatelephant]

Been on finasteride for over 2-3 years, minoxidil for 1.5 years. Only saw steady diffuse continue while on that stuff. Soon I'll have been on 12g MSM for 3 months and while I only noticed significant visible growth the first month occasionally I do see new hairs pop up, but not outright terminal ones. The most significant thing like I said is the hair quality so far

Yeah I suspect it might be a thing ... I dunno ... I've been feeling something is different about my appearance lately but haven't quite been able to put my finger on it. My hair looks a bit thicker on top (only a bit) but I think that's the minoxodil. But this morning I realized what it was ... the hair on the sides of my head looks thicker and darker. Maybe that's the minoxidil too, I dunno. Maybe not.

 

[fatelephant]

If you're also doing minoxidil/needling combo I believe your gains are from that. Although depends how long ago you started.

Seems very likely. Started 3.5 months ago. Which would be right on queue to see some results from minoxidil.

 

[MikeJay]

Yeah I suspect it might be a thing ... I dunno ... I've been feeling something is different about my appearance lately but haven't quite been able to put my finger on it. My hair looks a bit thicker on top (only a bit) but I think that's the minoxodil. But this morning I realized what it was ... the hair on the sides of my head looks thicker and darker. Maybe that's the minoxidil too, I dunno. Maybe not.

if u noticed that in the first month, its most likely MSM causing the regrowth.i noticed that as well. i was not using minoxidil . only fish oil with gla combined

 

[MikeJay]

Not to beat a dead horse, but if MSM does in fact encourage hair growth, wouldn't it be apparent in follicles all over the body? I've not heard anyone mention this. Meaning if it's gonna stimulate head hair growth, it should be readily apparent all over the body. I've been using it for about a month (maybe a little more) as an adjunct to oral Minoxidil, and I can't say it has accelerated the process. I was already getting gains just from the Minoxidil, but after reading about some who lauded MSM's benefits (here and elsewhere), I thought it couldn't hurt to add it to my regimen.

as me and some others mentioned, MSM makes beards and eyebrows grow faster and thicker.