My Pain Treshold Is Reaching A Dead End

[infinitepain]

Lol at OP lashing out angrily at everyone offering a counter argument

His mind is clearly made up. Take finasteride and you will morph into a female

Im speaking objective facts here. finasteride = feminizing drug. What's not to understand?

 

[shookwun]

Dht is useless, and a garbage hormone.


All that matters is T

 

[infinitepain]

Dht plays almost no role in erections, quality and strength. Its all tesosterone related. Go read some studies on tesosterone and it's role with erections, and libido. Muscle density? What lol

That would be relative to how low your body fat is and how much muscle yoy carry. Dht has nothing to do with how low yout body fat is. Muscle is entirely based on tesosterone. In fact there are almost no dht receptors in skeletal tissue. If you're bloofy and feel soft then chances are you are more fat think you think

Spoken like a true fincoping broscientist.
DHT = most potent male hormone. Lowering most of it = retarded.
So much for it having no impact on libido that there are tons of people with low libido related sides thanks to finasteride.

 

[infinitepain]

Dht is useless, and a garbage hormone.


All that matters is T

This "DHT does not matter after puberty" that finasteride users use to cope with needs to go.

 

[whatevr]

This "DHT does not matter after puberty" that finasteride users use to cope with needs to go.

I personally believe it matters. It's just unfortunate that it has the effect on hair follicles that it has and that you have to antagonize it to stop baldness. Unfortunately, that's the trade-off.

 

[Assemblage23]

Is OP 7dot? Who else believes in topical finasteride in the uglysphere?

 

[infinitepain]

I personally believe it matters. It's just unfortunate that it has the effect on hair follicles that it has and that you have to antagonize it to stop baldness. Unfortunately, that's the trade-off.

Yeah, but the idea is to stop it on the scalp, not on your entire f*****g body. Only a retard would say this isn't feminizing yourself.
There is a reason why reputed surgeons like Hasson are looking into it:

https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-solution-prescription/

More and more people are looking into it. The problem of course remains: This does not work for everyone. I understand that a lot of people here have to cope with thinking finasteride has no negative impact on your body, I may even try it myself (orally) if RU does not work, just out of desperation.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

This "DHT does not matter after puberty" that finasteride users use to cope with needs to go.

I agree.

If it didn't matter after puberty, we probably wouldn't have any DHT.

Human evolution is very, very effective.

With that said, we don't know if finasteride side effects are due to DHT, as it effects a whole lot of hormones.

 

[whatevr]

Yeah, but the idea is to stop it on the scalp, not on your entire f*****g body. Only a retard would say this isn't feminizing yourself.
There is a reason why reputed surgeons like Hasson are looking into it:

https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-solution-prescription/

More and more people are looking into it. The problem of course remains: This does not work for everyone. I understand that a lot of people here have to cope with thinking finasteride has no negative impact on your body, I may even try it myself (orally) if RU does not work, just out of desperation.

I agree, in fact my entire regimen has lately been based around this. Ever since I started getting gyno from finasteride I've been looking into alternatives, i.e., how to feminize my scalp as much as possible while leaving the rest of my body relatively intact. Thus far the results look promising.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I agree, in fact my entire regimen has lately been based around this. Ever since I started getting gyno from finasteride I've been looking into alternatives, i.e., how to feminize my scalp as much as possible while leaving the rest of my body relatively intact. Thus far the results look promising.

Can you tell us more about these promising alternatives?

 

[whatevr]

Can you tell us more about these promising alternatives?

You can check my thread in the success stories section, I've been off finasteride for a while and soon about to replace it with RU. I also use estrogen topically on my scalp. So far I seem to be maintaining, and from the looks of it it also seems to be getting better slowly, but it's too early to tell. I've only been using E for about 3 weeks (very low dose too).

 

[Alk]

Why dont u try progesterone instead of estrogen. Progesterone fights with testosterone over 5 ar II which is why finasteride is a little scary. Allopregnanolone is the metabolite of progesterone and is an important nuerosteriod. Nerve damage is probably the cause of all finasteride sides not lack of dht although it does play a role in tissue repair for ur manly parts, beard growth etc. So in bro science theory if you didnt want to take finasteride; you could increase progesterone, and it would fight testosterone for 5 ar, meaning less dht more Allopregnanolone. Purely bro science , im not a biochemist.

As for op, its either roll the dice or face the inevitable.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Why dont u try progesterone instead of estrogen. Progesterone fights with testosterone over 5 ar II which is why finasteride is a little scary. Allopregnanolone is the metabolite of progesterone and is an important nuerosteriod. Nerve damage is probably the cause of all finasteride sides not lack of dht although it does play a role in tissue repair for ur manly parts, beard growth etc. So in bro science theory if you didnt want to take finasteride; you could increase progesterone, and it would fight testosterone for 5 ar, meaning less dht more Allopregnanolone. Purely bro science , im not a biochemist.

As for op, its either roll the dice or face the inevitable.

There's a lack of rigorous research on the effects of progesterone on men.

 

[Alk]

Thats not true Allopregnanolone is a nuerosteriod that every human has in huge quantities in the brain and cns and it is created by progesterone. Every man has progesterone just not at the same level as women. There just isnt alot of studys on men using progesterone but there are many coming with more understanding of nuerosteriods and Allopregnanolone effect on the brain and cns.

 

[whatevr]

Why dont u try progesterone instead of estrogen. Progesterone fights with testosterone over 5 ar II which is why finasteride is a little scary. Allopregnanolone is the metabolite of progesterone and is an important nuerosteriod. Nerve damage is probably the cause of all finasteride sides not lack of dht although it does play a role in tissue repair for ur manly parts, beard growth etc. So in bro science theory if you didnt want to take finasteride; you could increase progesterone, and it would fight testosterone for 5 ar, meaning less dht more Allopregnanolone. Purely bro science , im not a biochemist.

As for op, its either roll the dice or face the inevitable.

I'm not going to change anything now that I think I'm seeing results. Progesterone is cool too, but it doesn't have anywhere near the raw regrowth power of estrogen. You'd be lucky to achieve maintenance with a strong progesterone cream.

Potentially something to experiment for those looking for finasteride alternatives though. Could mean the difference between throwing in the towel and maintenance.

 

[Alk]

I'm not going to change anything now that I think I'm seeing results. Progesterone is cool too, but it doesn't have anywhere near the raw regrowth power of estrogen. You'd be lucky to achieve maintenance with a strong progesterone cream.

Potentially something to experiment for those looking for finasteride alternatives though. Could mean the difference between throwing in the towel and maintenance.

True I wouldnt change anything without seeing where it goes first, i hope ur regimen continues to show you results.

 

[tellersquill]

I quit finasteride and the sides went away. Also, no shed or anything and its been more than a month.

 

[Cue Bald]

I think all of these crying, whining PFS people weren't exactly manly before they ever even touched finasteride

 

[shookwun]

Spoken like a true fincoping broscientist.
DHT = most potent male hormone. Lowering most of it = retarded.
So much for it having no impact on libido that there are tons of people with low libido related sides thanks to finasteride.

Cope.

The only bro science I'd the sh*t you keep posting.


I have read countless pub med studies, and tesosterone is almost the entire driving factor behind erections, libido and muscle growth and development.


Dht is a garbage hormone. Explain to me what dht does besides make me hairy,bald, have acne break outs?

Muscular wise it plays almost no role. Bro science will tell you it has hardening effects and yoy will experience more agression, but on a cellular level the muscle is all tesosterone receptors

 

[hairblues]

I'm not going to change anything now that I think I'm seeing results. Progesterone is cool too, but it doesn't have anywhere near the raw regrowth power of estrogen. You'd be lucky to achieve maintenance with a strong progesterone cream.

Potentially something to experiment for those looking for finasteride alternatives though. Could mean the difference between throwing in the towel and maintenance.

can i ask what strength estrogen and how much you use? its in a blend i use from hair transplant surgeon, i am skeptical it will work but going to give it a few months. Oral spironolactone i have to take birth control pills with and not loving the idea. Trying this first.