Need some advice with my regimen.

[Jacob]

One major problem with- "I think Will Brink was telling the simple truth in his statement".... he couldn't back THAT up either.

Okay, I'll bite: why do you think he couldn't back that up? :dunno:

What does from 12 years ago have to do with it? Seriously? Back then there were not all these other treatments available.

What "other treatments" are you talking about?

Will Brink loves to argue- except when he can't defend what he says...or what Proctor says/does.

I'm not the only one here who wouldn't believe just any "doctor"..on a medical issue or anything else. In the case of Dr. Proctor, he has lied(I give specifics) and made things up from day 1, as I've pointed out in this thread: http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72201 There's not a thing that I'm lying about.

What makes you think Dr. Proctor "lied"? Be specific.

1. For the same reason Proctor or yourself can't back up any claims you make. Hello?

2. :shock: Take your pick of anything that's come and even come and gone the past 12 years. From Dr. Lee's to Divine Skin to DermaHeal to __________________.

3. Can you read? Let's start out with- there was no comprehensive 3 year study on the crap. He LIED about it. Now don't play stupid and say what you've said before- how do we know he didn't blah blah blah. I've responded to that nonsense. There has been no mention of it all this time in the forums and you haven't thrown that study/trial at us..because it doesn't exist.

 

[Bryan]

1. For the same reason Proctor or yourself can't back up any claims you make. Hello?

You'll have to do a lot better than that. I think Will Brink was referring to all the people who have had good results with Dr. Proctor's products, and his (Will Brink's) general knowledge of some of the science that Dr. Proctor uses in those products. I think those are AMPLE reasons to call them the "Rolls Royce" of treatments. Hello?

2. :shock: Take your pick of anything that's come and even come and gone the past 12 years. From Dr. Lee's to Divine Skin to DermaHeal to __________________.

:shock: Okay, but what do those products have to do with your mysterious "12 years ago" statement? :dunno:

3. Can you read? Let's start out with- there was no comprehensive 3 year study on the crap. He LIED about it. Now don't play stupid and say what you've said before- how do we know he didn't blah blah blah. I've responded to that nonsense. There has been no mention of it all this time in the forums and you haven't thrown that study/trial at us..because it doesn't exist.

Don't you remember what I told you the first time you made such a rash statement? If you want to know more about his "comprehensive 3 year study", CALL HIM UP AND ASK HIM ABOUT IT! Don't just call him a LIAR, doofus.

 

[Jacob]

You'll have to do a lot better than that. I think Will Brink was referring to all the people who have had good results with Dr. Proctor's products, and his (Will Brink's) general knowledge of some of the science that Dr. Proctor uses in those products. I think those are AMPLE reasons to call them the "Rolls Royce" of treatments. Hello?

No..YOU'LL have to do a lot better than that. It doesn't matter what you "think"..it doesn't matter what Will Brink "thought" back then. Neither of you had/have any evidence to back any of it up with- then or now.

Okay, but what do those products have to do with your mysterious "12 years ago" statement?

Please...go see a (real) Doctor........

Don't you remember what I told you the first time you made such a rash statement? If you want to know more about his "comprehensive 3 year study", CALL HIM UP AND ASK HIM ABOUT IT! Don't just call him a LIAR, doofus.

He's a LIAR, shill. As I said: There has been no mention of it all this time in the forums and you haven't thrown that study/trial at us..because it doesn't exist. Neither has Proctor mentioned it. It'd also be on his ancient website as well.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72201

 

[Bryan]

No..YOU'LL have to do a lot better than that. It doesn't matter what you "think"..it doesn't matter what Will Brink "thought" back then. Neither of you had/have any evidence to back any of it up with- then or now.

LOL!! Is that all you can do, is keep saying over and over: "there is no evidence to back it up"? :laugh:

Okay, but what do those products have to do with your mysterious "12 years ago" statement?

Please...go see a (real) Doctor........

Huh?? You can't provide even one of your LAME answers, to answer my question about your "12 years ago" statement?

He's a LIAR, shill.

YOU'RE the liar, not Dr. Proctor.

 

[zeroes]

Bryan what is your response to the following sites statement, especially the clinical studies claim:

At the time of writing, there were no clinical studies of Proxiphen available, thus it is hard to substantiate the claims of the percentages of patients who have experienced significant hair regrowth using this product. Most of the claims of significant success from Proxiphen come from websites actually selling the product.http://www.understanding-hair-loss.net/proxiphen.htm

http://www.understanding-hair-loss.net/proxiphen.htm

 

[Bryan]

Bryan what is your response to the following sites statement, especially the clinical studies claim: [...]

I don't see anything unusual about what he says, especially concerning "clinical trials" for a highly proprietary substance like Proxiphen (not all of its ingredients are even fully known). I've already presented rave reviews of Proxiphen by a dozen different individuals, who said it worked very well (including one by Will Brink, who said it was the "Rolls Royce" of hairloss treatments).

If there were a treatment that consisted of a SINGLE substance or drug, I would consider that far more likely to be the object of a "clinical trial" that gets published in a medical journal, not something like Proxiphen, with a dozen different active ingredients.

 

[Jacob]

No..YOU'LL have to do a lot better than that. It doesn't matter what you "think"..it doesn't matter what Will Brink "thought" back then. Neither of you had/have any evidence to back any of it up with- then or now.

LOL!! Is that all you can do, is keep saying over and over: "there is no evidence to back it up"? :laugh:

Okay, but what do those products have to do with your mysterious "12 years ago" statement?

Please...go see a (real) Doctor........

Huh?? You can't provide even one of your LAME answers, to answer my question about your "12 years ago" statement?

He's a LIAR, shill.

YOU'RE the liar, not Dr. Proctor.

Oh..good comeback! Can't refute that Dr. Proctor is a liar..so just turn it around w/out anything to back that up with either. I was expecting- I walked down to Proctor's office and while giving him a big wet one reached down his pants and here it is, Jacob! Proctor lied, on numerous occasions/issues.

I swear Prox causes brain damage. That would explain Will Brink's behavior back then...your memory loss and other issues...etc.

 

[Jacob]

Bryan what is your response to the following sites statement, especially the clinical studies claim: [...]

I don't see anything unusual about what he says, especially concerning "clinical trials" for a highly proprietary substance like Proxiphen (not all of its ingredients are even fully known). I've already presented rave reviews of Proxiphen by a dozen different individuals, who said it worked very well (including one by Will Brink, who said it was the "Rolls Royce" of hairloss treatments).

If there were a treatment that consisted of a SINGLE substance or drug, I would consider that far more likely to be the object of a "clinical trial" that gets published in a medical journal, not something like Proxiphen, with a dozen different active ingredients.

So in other words, Proctor lied about the 3 year comprehensive clinical study.

"not all its ingredients are even fully known" is snake-oil talk..and anyone putting that on their head would be insane, if true.

You didn't present squat. I am the one that posted those "rave reviews" in this thread...as well as other, more believable(you know..more recent at the time of your original posting of the list..and from long-term posters) reviews. Will Brink has become a joke on this subject..just like you.

 

[Jacob]

Bryan what is your response to the following sites statement, especially the clinical studies claim:

At the time of writing, there were no clinical studies of Proxiphen available, thus it is hard to substantiate the claims of the percentages of patients who have experienced significant hair regrowth using this product. Most of the claims of significant success from Proxiphen come from websites actually selling the product.http://www.understanding-hair-loss.net/proxiphen.htm

http://www.understanding-hair-loss.net/proxiphen.htm

I love the last paragraph from that link:

Does Proxiphen work?

Proxiphen has been marketed now since the mid to late 90’s, which means it has been on the market for some time. As with any product claiming success with hair loss it might be suggested that any degree of success would be pounced on by a waiting audience and news would travel fast. To this day, claims and counter-claims of Proxiphen’s ability to regrow hair is debated hotly, which in itself might give you some insight to its effectiveness - but as the Dr. himself states, “the only real way to find out if something is going reverse hair loss is to try itâ€￾. As others would say though, “caveat emptorâ€￾.

The only thing they got wrong is how long the product has been around.

 

[shocktop311]

Bryan why don't you post pictures of your results with proxiphen. You should know if it's so successful after using it for 12 years.

 

[Bryan]

You didn't present squat. I am the one that posted those "rave reviews"...as well as other, more believable(you know..more recent at the time of your original posting of the list..and from long-term posters) reviews.

I'm the one who originally posted those rave reviews; not YOU, dumb-***. All you did was copy it with "copy-paste" from my original posting. Even THAT must have pained you tremendously! :mrgreen:

 

[Jacob]

You didn't present squat. I am the one that posted those "rave reviews"...as well as other, more believable(you know..more recent at the time of your original posting of the list..and from long-term posters) reviews.

I'm the one who originally posted those rave reviews; not YOU, dumb-***. All you did was copy it with "copy-paste" from my original posting. Even THAT must have pained you tremendously! :mrgreen:

What's the matter, Bryan? Only going to pick a sentence or two now to respond to again? Even skip complete posts? Proctor lied about the 3 year comprehensive clinical study.


As I said earlier in the thread..if you would only READ. Try reading again what I put in-between the ( )'s. Need more help? Edit..actually if you read my post it says "I am the one that posted those "rave reviews" in this thread".

Your brain is so fried from Prox that you couldn't even find the list :laugh:

 

[Bryan]

Bryan why don't you post pictures of your results with proxiphen. You should know if it's so successful after using it for 12 years.

I never used Proxiphen for 12 years; I used it off-and-on for a much shorter period of time (maybe a year or two, I don't remember exactly), and even then, in conjunction with numerous other things.

You may be confusing it with my two-year use of Prox-N (not Proxiphen), which I carefully documented with before-and-after pictures. Prox-N fully maintained my hair (did a little BETTER than maintain my hair, actually), during those two full years.

 

[Jacob]

Oh darn...don't bother asking for updated pictures shocktop311. The stuff worked so great he never continued with it.

 

[Bryan]

What's the matter, Bryan? Only going to pick a sentence or two now to respond to again? Even skip complete posts?

I'm not going to respond to you every silly time you say this garbage over and over and over and over; in general, I'm going to reply only once. If I ever reply a second or third time, it's just for my own entertainment value! :laugh:

 

[Jacob]

Nice excuse, I don't blame you! I love it when you can't respond. Can't defend a LIAR like Proctor :mrgreen:

 

[Bryan]

You didn't present squat. I am the one that posted those "rave reviews"...as well as other, more believable(you know..more recent at the time of your original posting of the list..and from long-term posters) reviews.

I'm the one who originally posted those rave reviews; not YOU, dumb-***. All you did was copy it with "copy-paste" from my original posting. Even THAT must have pained you tremendously! :mrgreen:

As I said earlier in the thread..if you would only READ. Try reading again what I put in-between the ( )'s. Need more help? Edit..actually if you read my post it says "I am the one that posted those "rave reviews" in this thread".

Oh BULLSHIT. You edited your post above AFTER I replied to it! You're a LIAR, Jacob! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Jacob]

Once again Bryan gets put to shame.

Here is my post, with the included Edit time-stamp, underlined:

So in other words, Proctor lied about the 3 year comprehensive clinical study.

"not all its ingredients are even fully known" is snake-oil talk..and anyone putting that on their head would be insane, if true.

You didn't present squat. I am the one that posted those "rave reviews" in this thread...as well as other, more believable(you know..more recent at the time of your original posting of the list..and from long-term posters) reviews. Will Brink has become a joke on this subject..just like you.


Last edited by Jacob on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Here is the time of Bryan's post: 8:33 pm

So..as I've been saying all this time. It is Proctor who is the liar. And you're filling his shoes quite nicely.

 

[Jacob]

Oh..and btw... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :wave:

 

[Bryan]

Read the post that's two posts ABOVE the current one, to see the actual language that I copied earlier. Stop lying, Jacob. You edited that one sentence AFTER I replied to it.