New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

[squeegee]

LoL anyone Here still on 540 needles or everyone now on 192 ones ?isnt More needles = more fibrosis destroyed ?less painfull than 540 one?

The needles on the 192 are spread out in a way that you can do a lot of passes without slicing your pumpkin & pulling out/shredding some hairs at the same time. The 192 seems more painful.

 

[2young2retire]

the 192 roller makes more sense. i believe is the movement of the needles exiting the skin in an angle that wound enough.

 

[opti]

I ve just read articles bout 540 ones That arent able To penetrate The skin really and can cause scarring because of Too much needles :00.also some dermaroller have knife like needles which can hurt the skin . i hope im not f**** up by them 540 needles. Going To order me am 192 now and not a 5$ one again.

PS: anyone Here who is using a zgts DR ? Is it Good?

 

[theRA]

I ve just read articles bout 540 ones That arent able To penetrate The skin really and can cause scarring because of Too much needles :00.also some dermaroller have knife like needles which can hurt the skin . i hope im not f**** up by them 540 needles. Going To order me am 192 now and not a 5$ one again.

PS: anyone Here who is using a zgts DR ? Is it Good?

yep, its good

 

[2young2retire]

:coffee:friends i took new pics to show you my new hairs and what i am sure is thickening. take a look . :woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot: :wub:roller:wub: :worthless: lol checkout


here they are pics of 25th nov. i started 20th oct. once a week heavy rolls and minoxidil foam 5% twice from the next day. what i see. ? i see and feel where my hair was thicker now is thick as a donkey and where my hair was thinning is for sure thicker and for sure not a little.but it is still early. anyway i also see my penis hairline transform to a more wide one. which is crazy and is happenning by new hairs. anyway brothers, i am not a photographer so i took many many pics.lol.

 

[2young2retire]

more pics for my roller friends.

 

[2young2retire]

a few more.i am telling you my hair is twin turbo since roller.


[video=youtube;NhNhwS07_YQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhNhwS07_YQ[/video]

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the last one is a before treatment pic


:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::salut:

 

[opti]

Dam those pics are nice,new small terminals showing!but could be from minoxidil too?

Guys what do you think of dkk1 blocking wnt signals for cells to proliferate?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2777110/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21440550

L-threonate can inhibit dkk1 production from dht :

Preventable effect of L-threonate, an ascorbate metabolite, on androgen-driven balding via repression of dihydrotestosterone-induced dickkopf-1 expression in human hair dermal papilla cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21034532

Moreover, a co-culture system featuring outer root sheath (ORS) keratinocytes and DPCs showed that DHT inhibited the growth of ORS cells, which was then significantly reversed by L-threonate

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edit : minoxidil workin mechanisms?

Minoxidil activates β-catenin pathway in human dermal papilla cells: a possible explanation for its anagen prolongation effect.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21524889

Effect of minoxidil on proliferation and apoptosis in dermal papilla cells of human hair follicle.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15033191

minoxidil +retinol better than minoxidil alone:
The additive effects of minoxidil and retinol on human hair growth in vitro

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17202653

 

[saintsfan92344]

Nice too young, those look like thick hairs coming In not just fine minoxidil hairs, I never had results with minoxidil when i used it before so if I get regrowth it will be from rolling

 

[Bombarie]

Looking good 2young, seeing a ****load black Dots !!!! Thnx for the pics dude

 

[swingline747]

guys does this cause pitting? Like FUE scarring?
forgot to ask.

 

[TMNK]

Doesn't it bother you to have a red scalp filled with "dots"? Don't you get comments on that?

 

[albert]

Nice pics 2young, I can see some improvements going on there and I see you're not shy with the dermaroller. Keep going!

BTW today I brushed my sides a bit hard and it was like pure snow (skin shedding) lol

 

[TMNK]

a few more.i am telling you my hair is twin turbo since roller.


[video=youtube;NhNhwS07_YQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhNhwS07_YQ[/video]

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the last one is a before treatment pic


:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::salut:

Doesn't it bother you to have a red scalp from all the scars? Don't you get any comments from people?

 

[2young2retire]

aaaa they are very little . and despite that aftetwo and a half days they go away. in the name of hair a small sucrifice i would say

 

[opti]

how long are you using one dermaroller?how many sessions till its going to be dull?

btw just saw that my dr is alrdy 192 needles:hairy:

 

[albert]

Also I forgot that today I was going to update a pic of my left temple... 13th dermarolling week and yes, many of those hairs weren't there before as you can imagine.

(Pic is too large, check it here: http://img.imgur.com/oGl0q2U.jpg)

 

[Wiggle]

I've got pretty good coverage, but one temple is not really showing any improvement from Minoxidil at all. I mostly see people in this thread rolling on bald skin, would this work for someone like me to roll on the temple alone to try to get a better result in this area?

 

[albert]

I've got pretty good coverage, but one temple is not really showing any improvement from Minoxidil at all. I mostly see people in this thread rolling on bald skin, would this work for someone like me to roll on the temple alone to try to get a better result in this area?

I'd bet for it. Also, you have nothing to lose and much to win - and it's cheap!

 

[2young2retire]

you have to roll hard though. get a numbing cream. emla. or sth. roll hard or go home.