New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

[fallicule]

I haven't posted on this site in years but checked in last night and came across this micro-needling frenzy. The results seem encouraging, but a few things give me serious pause:

1. The study (http://www.ijtrichology.com/article...lume=5;issue=1;spage=6;epage=11;aulast=Dhurat) is published in a very low quality academic journal (low impact factor; high acceptance rate for articles, @ 59%). I'm a career academic (entirely unrelated field). All academics strive to publish in highly influential, top tier journals. If we fail to do this, it is because: 1) the paper does not make a strong contribution (i.e., it's proving something that's already been shown, time and again); 2) the methods are dubious. 2 seems more likely, in this case.

2. It seems that one of the authors of the study has a vested financial interest in microneedling: http://www.rachitaskincentre.com/

3. The hair growth density counts are higher than propecia and minoxidil. This is remarkable, if true. Or it may simply reflect a poor study design or a dishonest reporting of results.

Sorry if these points have been cited by earlier posters. I'm too lazy to read through the 400 forum pages leading up to my comment.

Good luck to us all.

PS: Here's a citation for the journal's acceptance rate: http://www.journalonweb.com/IJT/ In my field, a great journal has an acceptance rate around 4%-10%. A reasonable journal is around 30-40%.

 

[nicefella]

fallicule thanks for the info. Are you trying this method yourself?

 

[fallicule]

I want to... I went as far as adding a derma roller to my cart in Amazon. I then took a closer look at the study and its authors and decided against it. I am hoping additional research comes out that corroborates their findings.

 

[Youcandoit]

I want to... I went as far as adding a derma roller to my cart in Amazon. I then took a closer look at the study and its authors and decided against it. I am hoping additional research comes out that corroborates their findings.

This study sparked everyone to so a community trial and we have been getting amazing results, being lazy can make you miss out on a cure, this thread isn't 427 pages because it doesn't work. Wounding equals hair growth equals blood flow equals nutrition to your follicles equals buy that dermaroller and cure that bald head

 

[fallicule]

This study sparked everyone to so a community trial and we have been getting amazing results, being lazy can make you miss out on a cure, this thread isn't 427 pages because it doesn't work. Wounding equals hair growth equals blood flow equals nutrition to your follicles equals buy that dermaroller and cure that bald head

Admittedly, academics are a pessimistic and skeptical bunch. However, there are good reasons for that. If the results are solid, then a stronger peer reviewed article should be forthcoming (unless it already has, in which case please link me). I wouldn't be missing but rather postponing a "cure."

I very much hope it works out for you (and others). The risks of your "community trial" seem pretty low, so all the best. I simply want to inform the community that this publication has hallmarks of a bad study.

 

[squeegee]

Admittedly, academics are a pessimistic and skeptical bunch. However, there are good reasons for that. If the results are solid, then a stronger peer reviewed article should be forthcoming (unless it already has, in which case please link me). I wouldn't be missing but rather postponing a "cure."

I very much hope it works out for you (and others). The risks of your "community trial" seem pretty low, so all the best. I simply want to inform the community that this publication has hallmarks of a bad study.

A lot of us took the study with a grain of salt . friggin study done in India.. It is just a baseline.. A lot of us "tweaked it" and getting great results already. Look at 2young2retire results.. Pretty impressive.

 

[Youcandoit]

Admittedly, academics are a pessimistic and skeptical bunch. However, there are good reasons for that. If the results are solid, then a stronger peer reviewed article should be forthcoming (unless it already has, in which case please link me). I wouldn't be missing but rather postponing a "cure."

I very much hope it works out for you (and others). The risks of your "community trial" seem pretty low, so all the best. I simply want to inform the community that this publication has hallmarks of a bad study.

Look in the thread, it started with that study but since then we have posted like 10 others, I'm not defending this just want to give you honest helpful response. Many of us have regrow on our juvenile hairlines, many users have been slick bald now growing hair when they have been on minoxidil finasteride etc. for years. The new hairs are thick, and half a centimeter, have not started growing like normal hair yet but don't see why the base would be thick and it would not take off. This is pretty much common sense it grows hair, many of us have had wounds on hands etc. that sparked growth of hairs all around wound that stay. This is no different, it is science that has been proven.

 

[2young2retire]

fallicule return to the hair transplant clinic you came from and tell your boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up :jackit: alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor and homeless support.

or he can ofcourse become a trans wh*** for cash. or turn the clinic into a house with cheap w****s or go to college and find new job or he can commit a crime so he can take advantage of the jails free shelter and food but tell him to watch his back in there,. man i dont know i really want to help but really i dont know. wound induced hair works so much that even if we wanted we wouldnt be able to hide it-you see wherever you hit you grow hair.

 

[ganonford]

2young... do you still roll once every week...?

 

[squeegee]

fallicule return to the hair transplant clinic you came from and tell your boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up :jackit: alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

[video=youtube;qFk_9CLPuNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFk_9CLPuNM[/video]

 

[2young2retire]

yes trevor almost. this time too will postpone one or two days.did you go to michael in downtown LS yet? that bastard turned the back on you after that robery. with that money you could clone humans in china and have trillion hair donor.

 

[fallicule]

fallicule return to the hair transplant clinic you came from and tell your boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up :jackit: alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

Good idea. I think I'll head back to the hair clinic and tell my boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

 

[2young2retire]

i am gonna die from loughing squeegee ,

[video=youtube;qFk_9CLPuNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFk_9CLPuNM[/video]

 

[ganonford]

yes trevor almost. this time too will postpone one or two days.did you go to michael in downtown LS yet? that bastard turned the back on you after that robery. with that money you could clone humans in china and have trillion hair donor.

Oh man, it's so ****ing sad. The first time I beat the game I choose to kill trevor by accident. I did not know what was going to happen if I choosed "A", it ruinned the whole experience...

Anyway sorry for the off-topic guys...

 

[2young2retire]

and tell him if he sees a hairy sheep and a hairy hot dog in a twin turbo cabrio gallardo to hide behind his dustcan cause we fast.

Good idea. I think I'll head back to the hair clinic and tell my boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

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i choose to kill none,the game is a poem.

Oh man, it's so ****ing sad. The first time I beat the game I choose to kill trevor by accident. I did not know what was going to happen if I choosed "A", it ruinned the whole experience...

Anyway sorry for the off-topic guys...

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squeegee in the vid you posted it is the Dr after he saw our results. he "looses it".

 

[Borealis]

Good idea. I think I'll head back to the hair clinic and tell my boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

Don't worry mate, some of us do appreciate your input. It's a valid point, the majority of people are (and rightly so) still sceptical about this. A few people have gained noticeable results but there are a hell of a lot of people doing this atm.

I think and HOPE this is working, but it's far too early to be calling it a 'cure'.

 

[2young2retire]

tomorrow is cold day but sunny. i guess i will expand my hat. any sunscreem recom?

 

[squeegee]

Good idea. I think I'll head back to the hair clinic and tell my boss he aint going this yachting big tit cruise instead he will end up alone in a jerk car eating only carbonhydrates from the poor support.

haahahhahaahahahahahah!

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Don't worry mate, some of us do appreciate your input. It's a valid point, the majority of people are (and rightly so) still sceptical about this. A few people have gained noticeable results but there are a hell of a lot of people doing this atm.

I think and HOPE this is working, but it's far too early to be calling it a 'cure'.

Why everybody need to be so skeptical about everything? Forget the stupid study and learn about the derma roller. It is a genius tool for us balders. It helps to rebuild the structural integrity so follicles can comes alive again. Derma-roller has been used for years.. it is safe and the best add-on to your hairloss artillery. The word cure is gay as **** as well. Stop saying that. It is not a disease, male pattern baldness it is just a result of micro local inflammation.

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[video=youtube;Oq2DVxyJcCI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq2DVxyJcCI[/video]

 

[bushbush]

Don't worry mate, some of us do appreciate your input. It's a valid point, the majority of people are (and rightly so) still sceptical about this. A few people have gained noticeable results but there are a hell of a lot of people doing this atm.

I think and HOPE this is working, but it's far too early to be calling it a 'cure'.

We should also be aware of the placebo effect. Some people want things to work so badly that they can get carried away, lose sight of objectivity, and literally convince themselves that it is working.

 

[squeegee]

We should also be aware of the placebo effect. Some people want things to work so badly that they can get carried away, lose sight of objectivity, and literally convince themselves that it is working.

hahahahah placebo effects? I am growing hair on temples that I've been slick bald for years. I am using a digital microscopic camera to monitor my progress and I am not a new kid on the block in here.. I am pretty much tried everything. They're plenty of members that already posted some great progress already. Placebo effects my ***. A lot of people should get their eyesight fixed first. It's been months since we started the derma rolling trials. If you don't have results after 6-8 month, you are not doing it right.. Bushbush, you look like a dumbass effect.