New Regime: Stemox|minoxidil|ru|oral Castor|other Oils

[sunchyme1]

What research is there on recessed chins?

what do u mean? in regards to surgery?

i just meant if your looking to do it, research about it.........what the surgery entails, whos the best surgeons etc etc. like for hair transplants. so you dont get fucked over

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

what do u mean? in regards to surgery?

i just meant if your looking to do it, research about it.........what the surgery entails, whos the best surgeons etc etc. like for hair transplants. so you dont get fucked over

I'd like to see a clinical trial following up hundreds of men getting various corrections and finding out how much they benefit in quality of life.

 

[sunchyme1]

I'd like to see a clinical trial following up hundreds of men getting various corrections and finding out how much they benefit in quality of life.

oh i see

i dunno man. interesting tho

i think it depends on the person.

i think if your mentally stable and a happy person in general and happy with your life, but just happen to hate a particular thing about yourself which is getting you down, i think it will definately make you happier.

but if your not, youll probably just find other things you hate and focus on them. as was the case with me when i was a teenager. i was deepily unhappy for various reasons and fixated all that on my nose. once i got it done, it didnt change a thing. i was still miserable. thats why i regret getting it done.

maybe now, as a grown man, i wouldnt have done anything.

 

[kj6723]

I'm pretty sure my regrowth on the current regimen has been maxed out. I think though that I can probably get more regrowth, and superior long-term maintenance, by enhancing the other chemicals.

Things I'm considering: Increasing RU dosage to ~30 mg, adding in stemoxydine, adding in zix, adding in S5 Plus cream, adding in topical castor oil, dissolving coconut oil and nigella sativa oil in my shampoo and/or conditioner.

Separately, I'm going to look into lowering my minoxidil from 5% to 2%. I think that 2% is all that's needed for maintenance, and at this point I've been on minoxidil for nearly 9 months.

But perhaps the minoxidil is not even working for me, and all of my regrowth is from RU, in which case yes I should add some tretinoin. Where do you get your tretinoin? Do you just dissolve it into the liquid minoxidil?

The experience has been a mindfuck for you, but you're getting a satisfactory result.

I'll PM you about the tretinoin. I don't dissolve it, I just apply it straight from the tube to my scalp. I definitely recommend the gel for that, as the cream is difficult to apply through hair onto the scalp, and gets stuck in the strands

Are you getting side effects from the minoxidil? tbh I'd be tentative about decreasing minoxidil dosage or percentage, given the studies showing better results from 2x day use and 5% vs 2%, although you know more about the studies than any of us, so I'm sure you know what you're doing. I know members on here have also reported decreased results when switching from 2x day to 1x day, even if anecdotal evidence needs to be taken with a grain of salt, I am tentative to pull back on it unnecessarily

Man I know I've seen somewhere about zix, or topical zinc negating the effectiveness of minoxidil or something, although I can't quote a source for you off the top of my head. Do you know anything about that? May just be anecdotal bro science

The result for me has indeed been satisfactory so far, I cannot complain, although I am anxious to know what my maxed out regrowth will look like, and I think I will always have the fear in the back of my mind of the meds losing effectiveness and the balding process starting up again on my scalp. Even then though, there are further weapons to call upon that I have not yet utilized: RU, dutasteride, transplant if sh*t really hits the fan

I'm realizing a reason my opinion fluctuates on how much I've improved is because the hairs of much of my regrowth are still very short compared to the surrounding hair, so without looking closely the shape of my hairline still looks very similar to pre treatment. I'm a bit curious how much buzzing down might improve the appearance of my hairline.....but I can't bring myself to do that at the moment lol

 

[TanbarkBellss]

dave from that last picture you should def look into getting a chin implant. and maybe a slight nose reduction. its kinda hard to tell because you seem to be pulling your head in a bit, but it looks like you have a recessed chin.

recessed chin and big nose is horrible look (no offense). but easily fixable. you should check some examples online. it make such a HUGE f*****g difference to their looks. especially when they are kind of average/good looking anyway. getting their chin and nose done makes the world of difference

pretty sure a nose reduction isnt that invasive a procedure. they dont break the bone (like i did), they just file it down.

u look good from the front

id like to see a buzzcut look too. i think it would look smart. especially after turning yourself into a badass at the gym

You gotta be f*****g kidding me

I thought that was a joke when i first read it.

You're actually serious. Why don't we try exercising a little acceptance about the way we look? Fix your hair, fine. Eat healthy and exercise, fine. Nose jobs and chin extensions?? C'moooon noooow.
You guys are creating this never-ending chase for cosmetic acceptance and fighting against nature. It's not a healthy mindset to be operating from

 

[kj6723]

You gotta be f*****g kidding me

I thought that was a joke when i first read it.

You're actually serious. Why don't we try exercising a little acceptance about the way we look? Fix your hair, fine. Eat healthy and exercise, fine. Nose jobs and chin extensions?? C'moooon noooow.
You guys are creating this never-ending chase for cosmetic acceptance and fighting against nature. It's not a healthy mindset to be operating from

I don't think David is looking for self acceptance so much as acceptance from the opposite gender. It's something he's struggled with his whole life largely due to aesthetics, and I don't know how you can fault him for wanting to do what he can to take control of that situation

 

[sunchyme1]

You gotta be f*****g kidding me

I thought that was a joke when i first read it.

You're actually serious. Why don't we try exercising a little acceptance about the way we look? Fix your hair, fine. Eat healthy and exercise, fine. Nose jobs and chin extensions?? C'moooon noooow.
You guys are creating this never-ending chase for cosmetic acceptance and fighting against nature. It's not a healthy mindset to be operating from

errrrrrr moron do you even know about david? did you read all my posts? i said it isnt healthy to be looking for perfection. and you need to be careful when going down this road. but the guy hates the way he looks and wants to improve it. so were being straight up honest

the guy wants to meet a girl ffs. nothing wrong with looking at your flaws to see what you can improve. a receded chin is one of the worst features a guy can have. pretty over anything......hair loss, crooked teeth, being short, fat...whatever. it ranks above them all. its a simple prodecure, and if it makes you feel good about yourself and improves your success with the ladies then why not. but i did say i wasnt sure because of the photo. maybe he doesnt a problem

either way, the guy is smart enough and self aware not to be going nuts with all this surgery anyway. it definetely is not healthy if you go overboard with this sh*t. but theres nothing wrong correcting a thing or two.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You gotta be f*****g kidding me

I thought that was a joke when i first read it.

You're actually serious. Why don't we try exercising a little acceptance about the way we look? Fix your hair, fine. Eat healthy and exercise, fine. Nose jobs and chin extensions?? C'moooon noooow.
You guys are creating this never-ending chase for cosmetic acceptance and fighting against nature. It's not a healthy mindset to be operating from

I'm perfectly fine with how I look. I would rather not give a f*** about hair loss, teeth, etc and instead spend the money on vacations, exotic foods, hobbies, charity, etc.

However, looks are extremely important to women. Ignoring my appearance is a recipe to either end up single forever, or end up with a compromised woman. I want to raise a family, preferably with a smart, sane woman, for looks I'm more than happy if she's average.

For a man with below average looks that is extremely difficult to find.

 

[rclark]

Slight regrowth at hairline. It's still receded but at least it's no longer an m shape.

What letter is it now?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

What letter is it now?

It's a receded hairline, but at least it's straight.

There are pictures posted up the page ...

 

[TanbarkBellss]

I'm perfectly fine with how I look. I would rather not give a f*** about hair loss, teeth, etc and instead spend the money on vacations, exotic foods, hobbies, charity, etc.

However, looks are extremely important to women. Ignoring my appearance is a recipe to either end up single forever, or end up with a compromised woman. I want to raise a family, preferably with a smart, sane woman, for looks I'm more than happy if she's average.

For a man with below average looks that is extremely difficult to find.

Perception is reality and if that's what you think then that's the reality you will create. The mind is a powerful tool, and if the belief you've planted in it is that your looks are the most important thing to women then that's exactly the experience you will have.

Who you are as a man, what you stand for, your skillset, your identity, your inner values and principles, your influence, are all more attractive/important to women. Yes, looks matter. But your looks are absolutely fine and there's no reason to believe that that's the reason you're single. Your external world is a reflection of your internal world, not the other way around. Build your internal strengths.

I feel like someone had to say that. Take it or leave it.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Perception is reality

 

[TanbarkBellss]

Suit yourself bud

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Suit yourself bud

You arrogant moron,

1) Stop with the bullshit copes that you don't believe yourself. You're arguing that "perception is reality", but at the same time you're spending time on a vanity forum (you could be reading up on films, history, or music) and you're asking around how to order illegal, untested drugs (RU 58841) into Australia.

2) You don't know me so don't assume anything. I already know who I am as a man, what I stand for,my skillset, my identity, my inner values and principles, and my influence.

I'm a PhD scientist whose work is cited all over the world and who is invited to present at international conferences, I have good personal friends all over the world, some going back over a decade, I'm an agnostic who gets along with both atheists and strict monotheists, I have decent family ties and am exceptionally involved in my nephew's life relative to most uncles, I want children. For hobbies I am into films, food, and history. I've lived in six different cities in three different countries, and have also traveled to Chile, Argentina, Italy, France, Switzerland, Sweden, and Denmark. Some personal qualities, I'm a good listener, I'm loyal, I'm considerate, I'm reliable.

Yes, I know my looks are the problem. I'm 33 and unlike you, I actually know myself. I know that what's in the above paragraph counts for very little because my looks are not up to par. Looks are the first-pass filter and determine what comes after. If your looks are good, your qualities are appreciated. If they're not, nobody cares. That is backed up by scientific research, as opposed to new age copes like "perception creates reality".

Now, I know what is likely to come next, a few irrelevant questions here goes:

But David, maybe your income is too low? That matters more to women than looks.
No, my income is appreciably above average. My assets significantly exceed my debts.

But David, maybe your hygiene is poor? That matters more to women than looks.
No, I shower every morning and take my time.

But David, maybe your grooming is bad? That matters more to women than looks.
No, I brush my teeth and floss every day. I wear deodorant. I cut my nails, razor my nosehairs, and thread my eyebrows regularly.

But David, maybe you're an idiot? That matters more to women than looks.
No, my IQ is 130+ and I'm interested and engaged in several subjects. My PhD dissertation was 500+ pages and includes well-cited insights and actual solutions to long-standing scientific problems.

But David, maybe you lack confidence? That matters more to women than looks.
No, it actually takes a huge amount of balls to put yourself out there when you're ugly. It also takes balls to have lived in six different cities, most people stay close to the nest

But David, maybe you have high standards?
No, I've shown pictures to other posters here of the women I've been interested and they have not been impressed. Sometimes I swipe right on every women, every single women, and my match rate is less than 1%.

But David, maybe you have a criminal record?
What? No.

Are you addicted to alcohol, drugs, or gambling? Women hate that !
No.

David, go f*** yourself.
I have to because nobody else will.

 

[kj6723]

Perception is reality and if that's what you think then that's the reality you will create. The mind is a powerful tool, and if the belief you've planted in it is that your looks are the most important thing to women then that's exactly the experience you will have.

Who you are as a man, what you stand for, your skillset, your identity, your inner values and principles, your influence, are all more attractive/important to women. Yes, looks matter. But your looks are absolutely fine and there's no reason to believe that that's the reason you're single. Your external world is a reflection of your internal world, not the other way around. Build your internal strengths.

I feel like someone had to say that. Take it or leave it.

I have something for you

Here

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

A bit of a longer Q&A for NicB:

David, maybe your issue is that you have a bad attitude, a 'can't do' attitude? Women hate that.
Recently, I've had both a cooking instructor, and a personal trainer, tell me I stand out for having a positive attitude and a good work ethic.

David, do you live with your parents? Women hate that.
No. I moved out ten years ago.

David, did you vote for Trump? Women hate that and they have misogynists.
I did not vote for Trump, I'm a Canadian citizen. I would have voted for Jill Stein. I also donate money to Planned Parenthood, I speak out on women's issues, and I wore a breast cancer awareness pin on my jacket for years. By the way 53% of white women voted for Trump, so no that's not a limiting factor.

 

[rclark]

It's a receded hairline, but at least it's straight.

There are pictures posted up the page ...

If i regrow my hair, I will have an M. From a V. It sucks being a Norwood 3.

 

[kj6723]

David, did you vote for Trump?

subtly dropping politics into the conversation

 

[Bagels]

You're getting some good results. I've been on a very similar regimine for a similar time but it hasn't really worked as well.

 

[Grasshüpfer]

David, maybe you are a slight aspie, like me?


Hahahaha, sorry. From the photos I've seen, you are just an average nerd. It should be very possible to get a gf.

What helped me getting out into the world after a long relationship a few years ago was the art of charm podcast.

It's mostly bullshit, but in the first episodes (toolbox or something if I recall) they break down good flirting and good banter in a very logic way.

From my point of view you also could replace 5kg of fat with 5kg of muscle, but apart from that you are not bad looking.


I hope you are not offended by me being so open. I have of course problems myself, so I figured it's a good strategy to focus on other people's business first.

It's also quite impressive that you make yourself so vulnerable on the internet. You are for sure a strong personality.