By that logic having sex with a goat is a heterosexual act and not zoophilia/bestiality as long as you imagine you're having sex with a woman.
[nsfw] Masturbation Is A Homosexual Act
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By that logic having sex with a goat is a heterosexual act and not zoophilia/bestiality as long as you imagine you're having sex with a woman.
As long as you continue to brush it off instead of saying you messed up.
Because it's redundant. It's like saying "car that has wheels" instead of "car". Dysphoria is implied and is part of it's characteristics, as is for dozen other mental issues, but you don't see "depressive dysphoria" instead of "depression". For the last time, the goal was to remove "disorder" to depathologize and allow the feeling to be valid rather than a delision.
Doesn't change the fact that statistically a person that identifies as homo/bisexual is 2 to 20 more likely to have been molested. Just because you know people doesn't change a fact. The same way if you know someone that won the lottery does not make winning the lottery common or standard.
Why are you comparing having sex with a goat to masturbating? I mean, a goat can’t even give consent. Are you that retarded or something?
It’s not redundant. You don’t see ‘depressive dysphoria’ because the definition of ‘depression’ covers the mental condition. If it was changed back to GID, would that make you feel at ease? I mean, the treatments still remain the same at the end of the day.
https://www.brainblogger.com/2016/1...ild-sex-abuse-confirmed-gender-nonconformity/
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This is not true. Again bullshting mister balding nuttsack.
The American Psychiatric Association states: "...no specific psychosocial or family dynamic cause for homosexuality has been identified, including histories of childhood sexual abuse. Sexual abuse does not appear to be more prevalent in children who grow up to identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual, than in children who identify as heterosexual".[8]
One study in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that "Abused adolescents, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to self-identify as gay or bisexual than peers who had not been abused". However, the study went on to state that victims may self-identify as gay or bisexual before the abuse occurs, implying that their non-heterosexual orientation and identity is not caused by the abuse, and reported that no longitudinal study had determined a causal relationship between sexual abuse and sexual orientation.[50]
Another study found that "Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation".[51] However, the study has been criticized[52][53] for being non-clinical, for using un-representative samples of homosexuals and heterosexuals, for not reporting how homosexual participants were recruited,[54] for contradictions between the results and their interpretation in the dissertation, for contradictions in the original study and the conclusions drawn in the dissertation and journal, and for implying that the frequency of homosexual self-identification was a consequence of the abuse even though it reports that 68% of men and 62% of women identified as homosexual before their molestation experience.[52] The study is also criticized as some people are aware of their same-sex attraction at very early ages and people usually become aware of their same-sex attractions before they start self-identifying as homosexual; however, the study asked participants about the age at which they regarded themselves as homosexual, not the age at which they became aware of their same-sex attraction, thus rendering it impossible "to be certain about when the abuse occurred – before or after awareness of same-sex attraction".[52] Causation between sexual abuse and homosexuality cannot be inferred by this study.[52] The study itself states that its "homosexual participants may not be representative of [all] homosexual persons"[55] and that molestation "may not, however, be a causal factor [of non-heterosexual orientation] in either gender".[51] The study has been further criticized for not mentioning the word "molestation" in the questionnaires distributed to participants, using the subjective term "sexual contact" instead, and then switching to using the word "molestation" in the analysis of the data."[56] The study has also come under criticism for relying on the work of Paul Cameron, who was expelled by the American Psychological Association and has been condemned by the American Sociological Association, Canadian Psychological Association and the Nebraska Psychological Association for consistently misinterpreting and misrepresenting scientific research on sexuality, male homosexuality and lesbianism.[57][58]
In a 30-year longitudinal study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, although the authors found that men with histories of childhood sexual abuse were more likely to report ever having had same-sex sexual partners, they did not find any "significant relationships between childhood physical abuse or neglect and same-sex sexual orientation in adulthood"; neither men nor women with histories of childhood physical abuse, sexual abuse, or neglect reported more same-sex sexual partners in the previous year or same-sex romantic cohabitation compared to men and women without such histories.[59] Authors of the study speculated that "sexual abuse may result in uncertainty regarding sexual orientation and greater experimentation with both same- and opposite-sex relationships", but may not affect ultimate sexual orientation.
Consent is irrelevant. If you rape a woman, it's still a heterosexual act. If you get raped by a man and you're a man, that's a homosexual act. Consent does not change that.
But if you can't deal with such abstractions, we can make it a super-realistic goat robot or we can have a dog hump a woman (the dogs actually do that on their own). So those cases don't have the consent thing.
That being said, will you consider those "not zoophilia/bestiality" because the human was thinking of another human?
Yes it is. I will say this the last time and we have to move on. A disorder implies the thought process itself is abnormal (thinking you're a woman born in the wrong body) and aims to treat that faulty thought process. If it's not a disorder you can play into that thought process with "transitioning".
That's cute, you're giving me what APA says, the same APA that considers you can be "born in the wrong sex".
Anyway, here are actual studies, not interpreted by anyone. This includes 3 META studies.
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The ratio of homosexual pedophiles to heterosexual pedophiles is 11:1 which means gays are 5 times more likely to molest children assuming gays comprise about 2% of the population.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
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Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescence Molestion in Heterosexual adn Homosexual Persons:
Bradford et al. (1994) reported that 25% of 1,925 lesbians surveyed had been sexually abused or raped as children. They said that 31% of the perpetrators were male relatives, 45% other known men, 45% male strangers, and 1% women (it is not known why this totaled 122%). In interviewing with 35 lesbian women in alcoholic recovery, 16 (46%) revealed sexual abuse, even though they were not asked about sexual abuse (Hall, 1996). The onset of the molestation ranged from <4 years to 12 years, with 10 of the women being younger than 7 years at the time of molestation. Fourteen of the 16womenweremolestedonlybymen.Onewasmolestedbymultipleintrafamilial males and one extrafamilial female. Another was molested by her father and by one extrafamilial female.
Simari and Baskin (1982) determined the extent of incestuous experiences in 54 gay men and 29 gay women. Twenty-five (46%) of the gay men reported experiencing incest, all of the homosexual sort, between 9 and 16 years of age with a mean age of 13 years. Twenty-four (96%) of the 25 men who experienced incest viewed themselves as homosexual before the incest. Eleven (38%) of the 29 gay women reported experiencing incest, heterosexual in seven (64%) of the cases, with two (29%) of these women regarding themselves as homosexual before the incest. Four (36%) of the 11 women experienced homosexual incest, with 3 (25%) of them regarding themselves as homosexual before the incest.
In research by Doll et al. (1992), 1,001 homosexual and bisexual men in sexuallytransmitteddiseaseclinicswereinterviewed.Thirty-sevenpercentofthese men reported having been forced or encouraged to have sex by an older and more powerful person, before the age of 19. The median age of these events was 10 years. The median age difference between the younger and older participants in the sex acts was 11 years. In 94% of the cases, the older person was male, in 5% female, and 1% involved both male and female perpetrators. Cameron and Cameron (1995) surveyed 5,182 adults and found a history of incest in 22.3% of homosexual men, 1.2% of heterosexual men, 3.4% of homosexual women, and 0.3% of heterosexual women. The authors did not provide any information about the age of molestation.
Cameron and Cameron pointed out that their findings are consistent with the findings of Bell et al. (1981) who reported a history of sibling incest in 15.6% of homosexual men, 9.0% of heterosexual men, 10.4% of homosexual women, and 5.6% of homosexual women. Bell et al. did not specify the gender of the other partner in the incestuous acts.
Gundlach (1977) surveyed 225 lesbian and 233 heterosexual women, and found that 30% of the heterosexual women and 21% of the lesbians had been raped. Of the 30 women who had been raped before the age of 14, 26 had an adult homosexual orientation while 9 had an adult heterosexual orientation.
On the basis of the previous literature, it would appear that gay men and lesbian women have a greater history of molestation than do heterosexual persons. The perspective from the previous studies, however, is unclear. Not all of the cited studies employed a heterosexual control group, specified the criteria of molestation, specified the gender of the perpetrator, specified the present sexual preference, and that before the molestation, and employed both gay men and lesbian participants. Furthermore, some of the studies focused only upon rape or incest.
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Prevalence of Childhood Sexual Abuse among Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual People: A Meta-Analysis http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10538712.2015.1006746
This is the full text (on discussion):
This meta-analysis revealed no significant difference between the prevalence of CSA across lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals. This was true for both sexes; the prevalence of CSA among male sexual minorities was 22.2% and for female sexual minorities was 36.2%. These values appear to differ widely from those of heterosexual people: Pereda and colleagues (2009b) found that the prevalence of CSA was 7.9% in men and 19.7% in women in general sample, and Stoltenborgh and colleagues (2011) found that the prevalence of CSA was 7.6% in men and 18.0% in women. Thus, we might conclude that the prevalence of CSA among sexual minorities is higher than that among heterosexuals.
More so, there are references made to two fomer meta-analyses, which both conclude there is a significant difference for CSA and homosexuality. Those ones are arguably more robust because they consider only US, so no cross-cultural differences.
The prevalence of sexual assault against people who identify as Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual in the United States: A systematic review http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3118668/
This article systematically reviews 75 studies that examine the prevalence of sexual assault victimization among gay or bisexual (GB) men, and lesbian or bisexual (LB) women, in the United States. All studies were published between 1989 and 2009 and report the results of quantitative research. The authors reviewed the reported prevalence of lifetime sexual assault victimization (LSA), and where available, childhood sexual assault (CSA), adult sexual assault (ASA), intimate partner sexual assault (IPSA), and hate crime-related sexual assault (HC). The studies were grouped into those that used a probability or census sampling technique (n=25) and those that used a non-probability or “community-based” sampling technique (n=50). A total of 139,635 GLB respondents participated in the underlying studies reviewed. Prevalence estimates of LSA ranged from 15.6–85.0% for LB women, and 11.8–54.0% for GB men. Considering the median estimates derived from the collective set of studies reviewed, LB women were more likely to report CSA, ASA, LSA and IPSA than GB men, whereas GB men were more likely to report HC than LB women. Across all studies, the highest estimates reported were for LSA of LB women (85%), CSA of LB women (76.0%), and CSA of GB men (59.2%). With some exceptions, studies using non-probability samples reported higher sexual assault prevalence rates than did population-based or census sample studies. The challenges of assessing sexual assault victimization with GLB populations are discussed, as well as the implications for practice, policy and future research.
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A meta-analysis of disparities in childhood sexual abuse, parental physical abuse, and peer victimization among sexual minority and sexual nonminority individuals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21680921
Sexual minority individuals were on average 3.8, 1.2, 1.7, and 2.4 times more likely to experience sexual abuse, parental physical abuse, or assault at school or to miss school through fear, respectively. Moderation analysis showed that disparities between sexual minority and sexual nonminority individuals were larger for (1) males than females for sexual abuse, (2) females than males for assault at school, and (3) bisexual than gay and lesbian for both parental physical abuse and missing school through fear. Disparities did not change between the 1990s and the 2000s.
CONCLUSIONS: The higher rates of abuse experienced by sexual minority youths may be one of the driving mechanisms underlying higher rates of mental health problems, substance use, risky sexual behavior, and HIV reported by sexual minority adults.
Excuse me good sir, but you got caught in your regular shitposting and forgot to answer this:
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...-a-homosexual-act.126268/page-11#post-1860571
You did not answer the question. Is having sex with a goat a heterosexual act and not zoophilia/bestiality as long as you imagine you're having sex with a woman?
Actually I did, back in page 7 https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...s-a-homosexual-act.126268/page-7#post-1859943
And being a male and getting sexually aroused when/while rubbing a penis is by definition homosexual.
One involves rubbing a penis, one does not.
If you're a man and you don't get aroused by sucking your dick then you might have ED. Is that how it works?
Are you sexually aroused while you urinate and the more you hold your penis while you urinate the harder you get?
Homosexuals have a higher rate of childhood abuse, but what correlation does this have to those who are homosexuals? You are just stating that homosexuals have a greater likelihood of being taken advantage of, which isn't surprising since femininity in males or masculinity in females is targeted by pedophiles. It's almost as if you are implying that they enjoyed it, and that's why they turned out to be homosexuals. Although, how did the remaining amount of people turn into homosexuals, by masturbating?
And, of course sexual minorities are more prone to assault at school or avoiding school due to fear. It's generally those who are effeminate males who become targets, and it does lead to their school attendance and grades decreasing significantly.
In regards to homosexuals being 'more likely to molest children', why are you applying a sample study to the entire population? A sample study which doesn't even state the amount of participants, in which we don't know if the 'homosexual sex offenders' were legitimately homosexuals, or if they are assuming that because they committed the crime against boys. It's said that many child molesters don't have a definite sexual orientation, where there's a 'power-dynamic high' for them when committing such crimes. This can be proven because the study was done in 1992, where these males would not be open about their sexuality, let alone in prison. Along with that, if the males were open about their sexuality, there would be a stated amount of participants similar to the other studies provided, which makes me assume that they are basing their sexualities by the genders of the victims.
I gave my friend a hand-job once; it wasn't a homosexual act because I wasn't aroused due to myself lacking sex hormones.
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I think I missed most of the discussion.
But if I could suck my own | that would be really fantastic.
But if I could suck my own | that would be really fantastic.
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I fucked a goat once with a strapon but i was not sexually aroused so i guess it's not bestiality right sacha?
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Ur not supposed to wash down there, or your ballsack might start balding like Sacha's.
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That's the most ridiculous thread title I have ever seen. All guys masturbate unless they were born asexual or have a disease that impairs testosterone production and doesn't feel the desire to it.
The more days pass after your last masturbation, the more sex thoughts you get and the more you want to do it. It is probably the same in girls. They do masturbate too.
The more days pass after your last masturbation, the more sex thoughts you get and the more you want to do it. It is probably the same in girls. They do masturbate too.
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Even gay men wouldn’t want your small dick
Giving your male friends a hand-job is not a homosexual act if you’re not aroused!
* small and disfigured dick that is permanently limp due to Finasteride