[nsfw] Masturbation Is A Homosexual Act

[sachalamp]

Yes not all monkeys masturbate but many do, as do many other mammals. So u don't really have a point except for one cherry picked study. But i didn't expect more from u since ur claim is bogus either way.

Let's try that again. Humans are not promiscuous species. Humans are mono or polygamous. Just 11% of the mono/poly monkey species masturbated with ejaculation. More than 50% of them NEVER masturbated.

When you push monkeys aside, masturbation becomes magnitudes more uncommon.

You are going to compare humans to insects next?

Nice attempt to ignore the facts in the study. And yes, if "masturbation is natural", we would've seen it across all types of living beings. But guess what, it's rarer than winning the lottery if you count mammals and even rarer if you include other life forms.

So you just admitted to making dinner for yourself and sleeping long sometimes on a Sunday. That means that you enjoy cooking dinner for a man and spending time in bed with a man to get cute and snuggly. That means you are gay. That is your logic. You do these things with a man and you enjoy them.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Cool story bro, can we get back to how you were saying that stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay but sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay?

Also: comparing us to primates is useless. 99% of the people that use evolutionary psychology of other species to explain human behavior simply lack better arguments.

Shows you have no knowledge on psychology but i can give you a pass on that one.

 

[quirkycatchphrase]

Shut up b**ch, don’t assume that I’m trolling when your entire existence on this website has been asking this:

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Man-based forums always result into some sort of weird sh*t like this that SHOULD be satire, but isn't. f***.

 

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Let's try that again. Humans are not promiscuous species. Humans are mono or polygamous. Just 11% of the mono/poly monkey species masturbated with ejaculation. More than 50% of them NEVER masturbated.

When you push monkeys aside, masturbation becomes magnitudes more uncommon.



Nice attempt to ignore the facts in the study. And yes, if "masturbation is natural", we would've seen it across all types of living beings. But guess what, it's rarer than winning the lottery if you count mammals and even rarer if you include other life forms.



Cool story bro, can we get back to how you were saying that stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay but sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay?



Shows you have no knowledge on psychology but i can give you a pass on that one.

LOL. Dude, I am AM a psychologist and did a minor in evolutionary psychology during my study. 90% of the community does not take EP serious and rightfully so.

 

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Also, you have still not answered why you care so much about men and their dicks...

 

[sachalamp]

LOL. Dude, I am AM a psychologist and did a minor in evolutionary psychology during my study. 90% of the community does not take EP serious and rightfully so.

Oh the community that believes one can be "born in the wrong gender" and that chopping your dick off is a potential treatment for "gender dysphoria". The community that magically changed "gender identity DISORDER" into "gender dysphoria"?

The community that made homosexuality not a disorder with a 60% vote and based on no objective fact, the sole justification being "to combat discrimination"?

You're part of that community?

Very cool. Tell me about it.

Also tell me more about how stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay while sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay.

 

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Oh the community that believes one can be "born in the wrong gender" and that chopping your dick off is a potential treatment for "gender dysphoria". The community that magically changed "gender identity DISORDER" into "gender dysphoria"?

The community that made homosexuality not a disorder with a 60% vote and based on no objective fact, the sole justification being "to combat discrimination"?

You're part of that community?

Very cool. Tell me about it.

Also tell me more about how stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay while sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay.

LOL. You think that just because a couple of crazies with the same degree say something it means that EVERYONE with that degree agrees with them? Nice try, guilt by association is a fallacy you had not used yet.

Wait, did you just say that homosexuality is a disorder?

 

[sachalamp]

LOL. You think that just because a couple of crazies with the same degree say something it means that EVERYONE with that degree agrees with them? Nice try, guilt by association is a fallacy you had not used yet.

You referred to the community as an argument, pal, not me. Now that it backfired on you, you suddenly don't want that argument used, LOL. And the DSM and APA is a "couple of crazies". LOL^2

Wait, did you just say that homosexuality is a disorder?

It is, but this is not the point of the thread so please keep the derailing to the minimum. If you want to discuss that part, make another thread about it.

 

[Ikarus]

Let's try that again. Humans are not promiscuous species. Humans are mono or polygamous. Just 11% of the mono/poly monkey species masturbated with ejaculation. More than 50% of them NEVER masturbated.

When you push monkeys aside, masturbation becomes magnitudes more uncommon.



Nice attempt to ignore the facts in the study. And yes, if "masturbation is natural", we would've seen it across all types of living beings. But guess what, it's rarer than winning the lottery if you count mammals and even rarer if you include other life forms.



Cool story bro, can we get back to how you were saying that stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay but sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay?



Shows you have no knowledge on psychology but i can give you a pass on that one.

I did not even bother reading the entirety of your response because I’d much rather go to a public restroom to find something full of sh*t

 

[Ikarus]

Oh the community that believes one can be "born in the wrong gender" and that chopping your dick off is a potential treatment for "gender dysphoria". The community that magically changed "gender identity DISORDER" into "gender dysphoria"?

The community that made homosexuality not a disorder with a 60% vote and based on no objective fact, the sole justification being "to combat discrimination"?

You're part of that community?

Very cool. Tell me about it.

Also tell me more about how stroking a penis while sexually aroused is not gay while sucking a penis while sexually aroused is gay.

GID isn’t much different to GD. I mean, the definition of disorder is ‘a state of confusion’, in which those with GID were in a state of confusion in regards to their gender identity. So, that’s a redundant argument. You can have your opinions on GD, but that doesn’t make it true.

Homosexuality isn’t a disorder, neither is it learnt from masturbating. If that was the case, castration would be a ‘cure’ to homosexuality since it prevents your wanting to masturbate. But is that the case? No, since you are still attracted to males, even if your desire isn’t sexually (which is equally applied to heterosexuals). You won’t even respond to this, because it entirely negates your point.

 

[Ikarus]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259005786_Male_Masturbation_in_Nonhuman_Primates (click download full text pdf)

Notice how even monkeys, that are by far the closest to us, don't all masturbate. How masturbation is, like i said, mostly a characteristic of promiscuous species and humans are not promiscuous. Humans are polygamous or monogamous.

Notice the difference between masturbation with and without ejaculation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24187414

Notice how the males that masturbate mate less and are lower in social hierarchy.

You also have excerpts from other studies here:


In a 1983 study from the International Journal of Primatology , the sexual behaviors of several groups of wild gray-cheeked mangabeys were observed for over 22 months in the Kibale Forest of Western Uganda. There was plenty of sex, particularly during the females’ peak swellings. But just two incidents of male masturbation leading to ejaculation were observed. Yes, that’s right. [...], two measly cases of masturbating mangabeys were observed over a nearly TWO-YEAR period.

University College London anthropologist E.D. Starin didn’t have much luck spying incidents of masturbation in red colobus monkeys in Gambia, either. In a brief 2004 article published in Folia Primatologica , Starin reports that over a 5.5-year period of accumulated observations totalling more than 9,500 hours, she saw only 5–count ‘em, five –incidents of her population of five male colobus monkeys masturbating to ejaculation, and these rare incidents occurred only when nearby sexually receptive females were exhibiting loud courtship displays and copulations with other males.

Of all my male monkeys only Jocko has been observed to masturbate. After a few days confinement he would masturbate and eat part of his semen. I have reason to believe that he lived under unnatural conditions for many years before I acquired him. In view of this fact that not one of seven sexually mature monkeys masturbated after several weeks of isolation under conditions that favored a fairly healthy mental and physical life (close proximity to other monkeys, large cage, warm climate) I am inclined to believe that masturbation is not of normal occurrence among monkeys.

We found some evidence that masturbation is linked to low mating opportunities: regardless of rank, males were most likely to be observed masturbating on days in which they were not observed mating, and lower-ranking males mated less and tended to masturbate more frequently than higher-ranking males.




When you put monkeys aside, masturbation becomes even more uncommon. If you add insects, it becomes null in the grand scheme of things.

I don’t understand the point of trying to prove that animals don’t masturbate. Animals also can’t engage in remote viewing, neither can they engage in other mental activities. Animals can’t perform surgeries, or engage in financing - they can’t even tie a tie.

 

[Wild_Goujon]

I agree with OP 100%, masturbation is gay and the more you do it, the more your brain associates the reward feeling with your own gender's body parts. Sorry guys but you can't argue against logic.

 

[Ikarus]

I agree with OP 100%, masturbation is gay and the more you do it, the more your brain associates the reward feeling with your own gender's body parts. Sorry guys but you can't argue against logic.

You’re just jealous that you can’t date a gay man because they’re not attracted to you, old lady

 

[Wild_Goujon]

Bisexuality and homosexuality is becoming more ‘widespread’ because it’s actually more common than people can comprehend. It has nothing to do with masturbation, and you know that.

If I may interject here, homosexuality and bisexuality are becoming more widespread because everyone's hormones are fucked up due to horrible food (poisoned food supply) and the medical industry (vaccines, drugs). Now you pair an individual that's already low on testosterone with the dopamine rush of ejaculating while touching male body parts (his own) and you have a recipe for homosexuality.

May I add as well that pornography affects the developing brain in that the boys watching it will identify themselves with the female (as usually the action is focused on her) and this is having the effect of turning men into transgenders. Hetero p**rn is a factory of transgenders, which is ironic as most of the "female" performers in hetero p**rn are already secret mtf transgenders.

 

[Wild_Goujon]

You’re just jealous that you can’t date a gay man because they’re not attracted to you, old lady

The idea that an "old woman" can't date young men is ludicrous, have you ever been outside of the basement?

 

[sachalamp]

GID isn’t much different to GD. I mean, the definition of disorder is ‘a state of confusion’, in which those with GID were in a state of confusion in regards to their gender identity. So, that’s a redundant argument. You can have your opinions on GD, but that doesn’t make it true.

A disorder is very different from dysphoria. Dysphoria is a state of dissatisfaction. You may be experiencing dysphoria when reading my posts. You may experience dysphoria because you got stuck in traffic. A schizophrenic may experience dysphoria because of his hallucinations.

A disorder is, like the name suggest, something that is out of order, something that is wrong. A genital malformation is a disorder, autism is a disorder.

The intent to rename GID to GD is obvious, they wanted to normalize it. They considered that it's not a very deep mental illness to feel like you are born in the "wrong sex".

Homosexuality isn’t a disorder, neither is it learnt from masturbating. If that was the case, castration would be a ‘cure’ to homosexuality since it prevents your wanting to masturbate. But is that the case? No, since you are still attracted to males, even if your desire isn’t sexually (which is equally applied to heterosexuals). You won’t even respond to this, because it entirely negates your point.

Castration would not cure homosexuality, it would reinforce it. One no longer has the organ to be heterosexual (penetrate) with.

I don’t understand the point of trying to prove that animals don’t masturbate. Animals also can’t engage in remote viewing, neither can they engage in other mental activities. Animals can’t perform surgeries, or engage in financing - they can’t even tie a tie.

We're talking basic biological functions like reproduction. Much like eating, sleeping or defecating.

 

[Ikarus]

If I may interject here, homosexuality and bisexuality are becoming more widespread because everyone's hormones are fucked up due to horrible food (poisoned food supply) and the medical industry (vaccines, drugs). Now you pair an individual that's already low on testosterone with the dopamine rush of ejaculating while touching male body parts (his own) and you have a recipe for homosexuality.

May I add as well that pornography affects the developing brain in that the boys watching it will identify themselves with the female (as usually the action is focused on her) and this is having the effect of turning men into transgenders. Hetero p**rn is a factory of transgenders, which is ironic as most of the "female" performers in hetero p**rn are already secret mtf transgenders.

Don't do meth, kids!

The idea that an "old woman" can't date young men is ludicrous, have you ever been outside of the basement?

Ma'am, what are you talking about?

 

[Ikarus]

A disorder is very different from dysphoria. Dysphoria is a state of dissatisfaction. You may be experiencing dysphoria when reading my posts. You may experience dysphoria because you got stuck in traffic. A schizophrenic may experience dysphoria because of his hallucinations.

A disorder is, like the name suggest, something that is out of order, something that is wrong. A genital malformation is a disorder, autism is a disorder.

The intent to rename GID to GD is obvious, they wanted to normalize it. They considered that it's not a very deep mental illness to feel like you are born in the "wrong sex".



Castration would not cure homosexuality, it would reinforce it. One no longer has the organ to be heterosexual (penetrate) with.



We're talking basic biological functions like reproduction. Much like eating, sleeping or defecating.

I couldn't care less about your personal definition of disorder because it's not relevant. With the actual definition, it means to be in 'a state of confusion'; when this is applied to gender identity disorder, it means to be in a state of confusion regarding your gender identity. Nonetheless, the outcomes with GID and GD are the same, where the cure is to transition.

Castration doesn't get rid of your penis, it gets rid of your testicles, so whatever point you're attempting to make is redundant once again.

Animals have similar biological functions to us, and what? That doesn't change that they're not as developed as humans.

 

[sachalamp]

Don't do meth, kids!

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Ma'am, what are you talking about?

You know you're a sad person when you are so desperate to "win" an argument you go to a person's profile to find "dirt" on him/her. What a sad and pathetic move, wow.

I couldn't care less about your personal definition of disorder because it's not relevant. With the actual definition, it means to be in 'a state of confusion'; when this is applied to gender identity disorder, it means to be in a state of confusion regarding your gender identity. Nonetheless, the outcomes with GID and GD are the same, where the cure is to transition.

You don't care about facts, yes, i get it.

Castration doesn't get rid of your penis, it gets rid of your testicles, so whatever point you're attempting to make is redundant once again.

Castration makes your penis unusable, therefore you no longer have a functioning penis (for sex).

 

[Ikarus]

You know you're a sad person when you are so desperate to "win" an argument you go to a person's profile to find "dirt" on him/her. What a sad and pathetic move, wow.



You don't care about facts, yes, i get it.



Castration makes your penis unusable, therefore you no longer have a functioning penis (for sex).

I didn't have to go to their profile to find that, it's the latest comment on our hormonal thread.

You don't care about basic definitions, typical.

If castration makes your penis unusable, therefore it terminates your ability to masturbate, making it a cure for homosexuality. Unless you are inferring that engaging in heterosexual sexual-intercourse is what cures homosexuality?

 

[sachalamp]

I didn't have to go to their profile to find that, it's the latest comment on our hormonal thread.

Which is completely irrelevant here, you used it as an attempt to denigrate him/her. Just desperate and sad move. You tried the same with me and i let it go assuming it's a one time slip-up.

You don't care about basic definitions, typical.

I do, which is why i explained them to you. If those two could be used interchangeably like you suggest, autism, congenital malformations etc could be listed as dysphorias. Obviously it does not work that way.

If castration makes your penis unusable, therefore it terminates your ability to masturbate, making it a cure for homosexuality. Unless you are inferring that engaging in heterosexual sexual-intercourse is what cures homosexuality?

Already mentioned, the male will lack the opportunity to penetrate, so the only option is to get penetrated.