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David is already on Tinder I believe, but hasn't had the same response as me.

Maybe I grew into my face, or it's just that I take better care of myself now, but I've been forced to admit I have an advantage in the dating market through striking, unconventional good looks. That makes it easier for me to get noticed on dating apps, and gets certain women crazy turned on. David looks a lot better now and I could probably help him eke out some marginal benefits with style and pic selection. However, our situations are not the same when it comes to women and likely never will be.

I suspect it's simply because he isn't white rather than your being more attractive.
 

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I suspect it's simply because he isn't white rather than your being more attractive.

That's certainly a factor, but for women whiteness drives attractiveness. It's one of the few things that compares to height in importance.

Pinnacle of attractiveness includes a skin type that is Fitzpatrick II. Fitzpatrick I and III are tolerated. Fitzpatrick IV-VI are not.
 
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Excuse me?

There are studies backing up the importance of height and skin colour.

In general if you look around you will find interracial couples are quite rare. If race didn't matter, they would be the norm.

I just did a mental check, all of the most attractive women I know on FB are with men of a very similar skin tone. Not just white-white but even within the ethnic group.

Of the girls I've had the most traction with recently, one was from Malta where olive skin is the norm, one was super-white but her fraternal twin had olive skin, and a third had olive skin as well.

But it's possible I'm neglecting a third or fourth factor without realizing it.
 

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I think some eastern european women will like or prefer the americanised male model type look but from the Polish, Lithuanian and Russian guys i know, they regularly shave their heads as default. It is a tougher environment over there and the difference beteeen the sexes tends to be more polsrised...men are generally more masculine and women are more feminine. Feminism changed that in western countries..with women acting like men and taking care of themselves less and men feeling the need to become 'prettier' because it is less about being macho. One Polish guy I train with tells me that when he goes home to Poland soon form a holiday he needs to 'sort some guy out' who used to bully him...hence his recent boxing training. He is an absolute beast in the gym..not an ounce of fat on him, pure muscle..shaved head.

That's precisely what a Ukranian girl told me on a date. She didn't like how American men and women act. Her words were "American men are just a women in a pant and American women are men in a skirt". She further told me, "I want my man to act like a man. I want to clean the house and take care of children while he makes money." Even though she was pursuing a great career, she didn't want her man to be feminized and act like a women.
 

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There are studies backing up the importance of height and skin colour.

In general if you look around you will find interracial couples are quite rare. If race didn't matter, they would be the norm.

I just did a mental check, all of the most attractive women I know on FB are with men of a very similar skin tone. Not just white-white but even within the ethnic group.

Of the girls I've had the most traction with recently, one was from Malta where olive skin is the norm, one was super-white but her fraternal twin had olive skin, and a third had olive skin as well.

But it's possible I'm neglecting a third or fourth factor without realizing it.

David, I will differentiate between affect of color/ethnicity in success of relationships vs affect of color in driving attraction. One reason why most people choose spouse within their ethnicity is because most people simply know more people of their ethnicity/skin color. I know many brown guys who are married to brown women but they are more attracted to white skin. However, they settled with brown women for reasons such as accessibility, compatibility, cultural similarity, similar thought process and belief system, etc. However, data released by a dating app indicated that if you are a Caucasian male, your chance of getting positive response from women(Caucasian and Asian) goes up substantially. I didn't look at the data in enough detail to comment on it's quality though.
 

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There are studies backing up the importance of height and skin colour.

In general if you look around you will find interracial couples are quite rare. If race didn't matter, they would be the norm.

I just did a mental check, all of the most attractive women I know on FB are with men of a very similar skin tone. Not just white-white but even within the ethnic group.

Of the girls I've had the most traction with recently, one was from Malta where olive skin is the norm, one was super-white but her fraternal twin had olive skin, and a third had olive skin as well.

But it's possible I'm neglecting a third or fourth factor without realizing it.


Height, totally. Skin colour, no so much in the modern days.
A lot of white women nowadays prefer dark skinned guys. Some of my white friends are so crazy about black/brown guys they find all white guys unattractive.
I believe in "opposite attracts" rather than "whiteness rules". I am mixed, with olivey skin and dark hair. I am strangely attracted to scandinavian guys, especially the ones that are uber pale and blonde. However, I find hispanic and Italian guys with dark hair the hottest men on earth.
A lot of girls don't go for Indian guys, but when you see one that is like


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Height, totally. Skin colour, no so much in the modern days.
A lot of white women nowadays prefer dark skinned guys. Some of my white friends are so crazy about black/brown guys they find all white guys unattractive.

To be fair, you are contradicting yourself. In one line, you say that skin color doesn't matter but in the very next line you admit that your friends are crazy about black/brown guys. You also go onto admit that you are attracted to Sandinavian guys. The truth is skin color matters. But which skin color matters to who is a different issue altogether. I have found that many white women are attracted to black/brown skin. However the same can't be said for women from different regions. For example, Indian girls are really not attracted to African men. Neither are Indian men to Black women. Taste in skin color varies. But just because it varies, it doesn't mean that skin color doesn't matter.
 

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To be fair, you are contradicting yourself. In one line, you say that skin color doesn't matter but in the very next line you admit that your friends are crazy about black/brown guys. You also go onto admit that you are attracted to Sandinavian guys. The truth is skin color matters. But which skin color matters to who is a different issue altogether. I have found that many white women are attracted to black/brown skin. However the same can't be said for women from different regions. For example, Indian girls are really not attracted to African men. Neither are Indian men to Black women. Taste in skin color varies. But just because it varies, it doesn't mean that skin color doesn't matter.

I didnt mean to say skin colour doesn't matter. I meant to say whiteness isn't the most attractive skin out there.
I don't prefer dark-skinned guys because i can associate myself with them. However, I find them sexier than white guys. I just feel more sexually attracted to white boys because they are different. It's a difficult one.
 

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My father.

He says you have to be a bit crazy in the head to be willing to put up with that sh*t.

Most hair piece wearers come to their senses, and realize:

"Do I really want to give up on my life just so I can pretend I have hair on my head?"

Any sane person would ditch the hair piece.

I'll be travelling to Indonesia in a few weeks, visiting places like this one:


Just realised whenver the convo of hair systems come up, you are immediately like "my daddy says ..".
Sounds like you have some daddy issues.
 

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I meant to say whiteness isn't the most attractive skin out there.

For you or may be the women in your country/region. But that is not necessarily the case for all countries/regions. Having lived in India, I can tell you, Asian women literally drool over white skin.
 

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For you or may be the women in your country/region. But that is not necessarily the case for all countries/regions. Having lived in Asia, I can tell you, Asian women literally drool over white skin.

Umm, I think Asian women drool over Western facial features rather than white skin. I grew up in an Asian country but am mixed so women there love my eyes, nose, everything lol. Asian guys can be pretty pale if they've never been in the sun.
 

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Umm, I think Asian women drool over Western facial features rather than white skin. I grew up in an Asian country but am mixed so women there love my eyes, nose, everything lol. Asian guys can be pretty pale if they've never been in the sun.

Yes, they like western facial feature but skin color plays a huge role. The same western features in dark skin isn't really considered very attractive. If you go to India you will know what I mean. There is a huge variation in skin color in India. You can find really pale guys and also really dark guys whose skin tone rival African men. Given similar facial structure, Indian men with light skin are usually vastly more desirable to Indian women. Same applies to women too. Indian women with light skin color are considered far more beautiful than a dark skinned women of similar facial structure.
 

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male pattern baldness forums seem like a perfect place to talk about feminism.

I'm very feminist or pro-feminist actually, I can link to you some of my writings on the subject if you don't believe me.

I don't discuss it much over this forum as there is no point.

I wasted years discussing evolution and global warming with religious conservatives, that was similarly a waste of time.
 
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Height, totally. Skin colour, no so much in the modern days.
A lot of white women nowadays prefer dark skinned guys. Some of my white friends are so crazy about black/brown guys they find all white guys unattractive.
I believe in "opposite attracts" rather than "whiteness rules". I am mixed, with olivey skin and dark hair. I am strangely attracted to scandinavian guys, especially the ones that are uber pale and blonde. However, I find hispanic and Italian guys with dark hair the hottest men on earth.
A lot of girls don't go for Indian guys, but when you see one that is like

As always, if a man only has one flaw, he is effectively perfect. Same with women.

Margot Robbie, for example, doesn't have large breasts. She's still a 10/10, because her whole package is overwhelmingly sexy. I'd say she's the sexiest woman in Hollywood. Have you watched The Wolf of Wall Street? Same with that non-white Indian guy whose image you linked, or Kelly Slater whom you have previously posted as an example of a hot bald guy. Margot Robbie having a B cup doesn't mean that breasts are not important.

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I thought about some more this morning. Of the most beautiful women I know, every single one is with a guy of the same skin tone. No exceptions. It is seemingly *more* important than hair or height.
 

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Height, totally. Skin colour, no so much in the modern days.
A lot of white women nowadays prefer dark skinned guys. Some of my white friends are so crazy about black/brown guys they find all white guys unattractive.
I believe in "opposite attracts" rather than "whiteness rules". I am mixed, with olivey skin and dark hair. I am strangely attracted to scandinavian guys, especially the ones that are uber pale and blonde. However, I find hispanic and Italian guys with dark hair the hottest men on earth.
A lot of girls don't go for Indian guys, but when you see one that is like


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No they dont. Ethnic men dating Caucasian women are minorities in most cases. All though from what I have observed licing previously in the most multi cultural city in canada (Toronto) is white men can easily get ethnic women. Aside from that most ste within there ethnic circles.


Being a white male is god mode. Tanned white male is like living on cloud.9. It the perfect gold complexion
 
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