Peoples Shame Of Discussing Baldness

[buckthorn]

Now when we instruct a dog to roll over and it obeys, then we say, "good dog"! and King might even get a treat.
When we tell a bald man "to roll with it" aren't we to some estimable degree, coaching them
that self acceptance is fundamentally more about self deceit and voluntarily induced delusion
and less about honest actual self improvement and personal change?
Is true progress for the individual really about implementing another trick in exchange for fairer treatment?

very, very well put brother

 

[kj6723]

Excellent post ID.

Another small anecdote from work today:

One of my female colleagues says to my bald colleague:

"And then I told her you were pulling your hair - that you don't have - out."

His response? Nothing, he just pretended he didn't hear her and went on about his work.

I've seen him do that a few times when people mention his baldness. Is it supposed to show that he doesn't care?

Probably just doesn't know what to say. As someone who's been called out for balding before, it's super disarming if you're not ready it. Looking back, I'm sure there are things I could have said in the moment to help with damage control, but it just sucks having one of your biggest insecurities pointed out in front of a group of people, especially when females are on the scene.

But you say it's happened a few times...he should probably think up a response to start using, else he just ends up looking worse

 

[buckthorn]

Excellent post ID.

Another small anecdote from work today:

One of my female colleagues says to my bald colleague:

"And then I told her you were pulling your hair - that you don't have - out."

His response? Nothing, he just pretended he didn't hear her and went on about his work.

I've seen him do that a few times when people mention his baldness. Is it supposed to show that he doesn't care?

you never hear a colleague say to another, "well, that would be easier if you weren't so fat!". I simply cannot comprehend why there is not more sensitivity to male pattern baldness. For example, if someone was in an accident, leaving them with scars on their face, and they looked horrible, they would receive nothing but support, and no negative words. Someone experiences male pattern baldness and looks horrible with a big shiny head, and generally the opposite occurs. People are callous, unsupportive, don't give a f*ck and even make remarks. Really though, what is the difference. The cause is irrelevant if you're living with a condition that makes you physically look horrible.

 

[buckthorn]

you never hear a colleague say to another, "well, that would be easier if you weren't so fat!". I simply cannot comprehend why there is not more sensitivity to male pattern baldness. For example, if someone was in an accident, leaving them with scars on their face, and they looked horrible, they would receive nothing but support, and no negative words. Someone experiences male pattern baldness and looks horrible with a big shiny head, and generally the opposite occurs. People are callous, unsupportive, don't give a f*ck and even make remarks. Really though, what is the difference. The cause is irrelevant if you're living with a condition that makes you physically look horrible.

That being said, when I am bald, I will viciously attack anyone who makes any kind of bullsh*t small minded insult. Whether they do so directly or indirectly. I never stood for that kind of sh*t. We need to empower each other to fight back if anyone is so f*cking heartless.

 

[buckthorn]

She was still trying to be nice though, she said: "You know how sad she is at the moment, I was trying to make her laugh."

And then no response. I know how it is too. I remember that girl in Morocco who told my friend: "He looks good, but, where are they (my hair)?"

I was laughing but deep down, I was hurt of course. There's no good come back in these situations, so I think he has the best strategy, just silence.



This is exactly what you should never do.

In fact, when a guy told me: "Oh you have no job, no wonder, you have no hair!"

I reacted exactly the same way, silence, and a neutral look.

He stopped immediately and tried to talk to my friend.

After that, he didn't dare to look me in the eye and just left.

So yeah, if that happens to you, just remain silent and start ignoring them.

It seems to be the worst punishment for that kind of people.

true true.. but can I just choke them to death and bury them in a shallow grave beneath my house?

 

[marco75]

She was still trying to be nice though, she said: "You know how sad she is at the moment, I was trying to make her laugh."

And then no response. I know how it is too. I remember that girl in Morocco who told my friend: "He looks good, but, where are they (my hair)?"

I was laughing but deep down, I was hurt of course. There's no good come back in these situations, so I think he has the best strategy, just silence.



This is exactly what you should never do.

In fact, when a guy told me: "Oh you have no job, no wonder, you have no hair!"

I reacted exactly the same way, silence, and a neutral look.

He stopped immediately and tried to talk to my friend.

After that, he didn't dare to look me in the eye and just left.

So yeah, if that happens to you, just remain silent and start ignoring them.

It seems to be the worst punishment for that kind of people.

You have to make light of it and joke about it yourself, otherwise people with think you are insecure about it which is a big negative. Nothing turns off women like insecurity.

 

[marco75]

That only applies to men they are not attracted to.

If a model-tier is insecure in front of them, then it's so cute.

She will want to cheer you up and she'll tell you how great you are (halo effect).

We all know (do we?) that you cannot create sexual attraction out of thin air.

Now I'm wondering if you can actually kill attraction that is present and "turn off" a woman.

I'd like to see evidence of that. Just like I'd like to see evidence of many claims that are supposed to be "common wisdom".

To me it seems that if a girl isn't that attracted to you, the tiniest mistake (like being insecure in front of her) is a deadly offense.

But if she's crazy over you, it seems you just can't f-ck it up at all.

Yes it's true, a girl may overlook you lack of good looks if you act right all the time, but if you are tall, lean and have an attractive face then you can pretty much take it easy (as long as you don't go too weird or psycho) in terms of your personality. Only thing that might be an issue is they think you will play them or cheat as you have plenty of options especially if you date a lot.

 

[marco75]

Actually, yes, there is something that turns off women even more: ugliness.

Yes that's true Dante92 but it's somewhat subjective. I have found girls attractive that others would find unattractive.

 

[Dante92]

Yes that's true Dante92 but it's somewhat subjective. I have found girls attractive that others would find unattractive.

Too bad it doesn't work the other way around.

 

[marco75]

Too bad it doesn't work the other way around.

It does, otherwise there would be no unattractive people on earth.

 

[marco75]

Oh yes, status and money, I almost forgot.

No most people are unattractive yet get married have kids etc, just need to find someone.

 

[shookwun]

I have been long distance talking to a chick I plan on seeing. We have texted for the last couple weeks and talk every other day. Always mentioning how much she misses me. Constant compliments and always jnitiating conversation.


How can you have such strong feelings for a guy you never met?


Of course she believes I am the most attractive man she will po3ntially see. According to her of course. Amazing the hailo effect oh how much of a dominant force my looks have become, and ultimately the driving factor of her deep feelings for a guy she has never met.

Constant compliments, and lots of dirty texting. Sending me pictures all the time.



All looks. In respect to her, I have been with hot tier chicks who barely showed interest in text communication.



Its all looks, how receptive they are

 

[buckthorn]

Too bad it doesn't work the other way around.

it actually does work the other way around, because some women are attracted to things other than looks, money, power, etc... I know first hand. My little sister is an attractive woman and she goes on and on about this weird looking bald dude she dated and how they would have been perfect, blah blah.. my good friend, who is hot as f*ck, is almost literally stalking and chasing this balding dude, who has an average face and body. He is not wealthy either.. So, I am done trying to explain how I understand this phenomena, because I always get verbally slaughtered when I do. But, we all know it exists.

 

[kj6723]

true true.. but can I just choke them to death and bury them in a shallow grave beneath my house?

Buckthorn is a serial killer who targets fullheads...he scalps them and wears their NW1 hair around the house

 

[marco75]

You can go as far as you want. One of the girls I'm dating told me a story about a woman she knows.

The man (male model tier of course) she was with had four different children with four different women behind her back.

She knew about them all, and still loved him. The man ended up killing himself (I don't get this).

She was devastated and wanted to come at his funeral, they prevented her from coming because a fifth woman, who apparently was more "official" than her was there, with a fifth child.

Today she still says how wonderful he was, and how deeply in love with him she was. She can't move on.

And then you have your average nice guy forgetting to put the toilet seat down, and their girlfriend is like:

"Oh my god, you're so selfish! We need to talk!" and then she'll tell her girlfriends about how much of an a**h** you were.

Wow, although when I think about it rings true. Just as I was splitting from my ex ex, she became pregnant. We still split and I met someone a 4-5 months later who was a tall blonde attractive women, I broke the news that my ex was pregnant and she said she couldn't deal with it, but an hour later she was on the phone saying she would deal with it and we got engaged a few months later.

One girl I was seeing casually kept trying to make it more serious but I kept ending it and she went crazy but a few days later she was messaging me again, she let me do what I wanted to her sexually even though I dumped her many times, i'm sure I could message her tonight and be in her bed tomorrow. Opened my eyes. But that kind of thing isn't fulfilling I now have met a great girl and want to settle down with her.

It's sad that looks are almost everything to women and even though I benefit from it I still find it very shallow and unfair.

 

[buckthorn]

Why don't we get down to the fundamental root of this issue - family. Most women want to start a family and have an overwhelming internal force to have children, especially after thirty. This is

Buckthorn is a serial killer who targets fullheads...he scalps them and wears their NW1 hair around the house

shhhh... QuIeT mY fRieND oR YoU Are nExT

 

[Dante92]

Buckthorn is a serial killer who targets fullheads...he scalps them and wears their NW1 hair around the house

I thought I was the only one, that's a relief.

 

[CaptainForehead]

You see a few months ago a sad bastard named Sadviagra really got quite abusive with Evillocks.
He went way too far with the personal abuse and the bastard was totally out of line.
Then to make matters worse, other members of this forum joined in, and, I believe unfairly, also joined the attacked on Evillocks.

This abuse she copped was, for the must part, only directed at her because of her gender.
Evillocks suddenly became the scapegoat for all the insecurities felt by certain members of this site and she received a hell of a bashing.
A bashing she obviously didn't deserve as she has been nothing but straight up and genuine with people around here.
And I, for one, won't stand by and let that happen again.

Now, before you all think I'm just white knighting (whatever the f*** that means), I would gladly do it for anyone who is unfairly being ganged up on by a host of members, just so those members can let out some pent up frustration.

Trying to rewrite history I see.

You don't even remember the user's name right.

One use did indeed attack EvilLocks, he was alone in his attacks. There were others who said this is a men's section, and EvilLocks should be sensitive to the fact that a young very pretty women posting about how boys were looking at her when wind blew through her hair might rub some of the depressed men here the wrong way.

There is a reason the site creator divided the forum into men's and women's sections.

 

[Joan]

Trying to rewrite history I see.

You don't even remember the user's name right.

One use did indeed attack EvilLocks, he was alone in his attacks. There were others who said this is a men's section, and EvilLocks should be sensitive to the fact that a young very pretty women posting about how boys were looking at her when wind blew through her hair might rub some of the depressed men here the wrong way.

There is a reason the site creator divided the forum into men's and women's sections.

I don't think you guys would've been treated the same way you've treated us if you "invaded" a women's forum. Thank you.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Before someone gets the wrong idea, let me say that EvilLocks, or the other women do not deserve the resentment that might sometimes surface. I've resented EvilLocks at times due to her genetic lottery. I'm not proud of that part of myself. I know cerebrally that she doesn't bear ill-intent towards the men here. I know that I'm being small when these negative feelings come up.

But I'm human. A man in a dark place.

I manage that negative part of me (countereed in part by the positive side which likes the alternative viewpoints of women).

However, there might be young men, who haven't yet developed coping mechanisms to handle their negative psyches. Just something for EvilLocks to be aware of.

You have fragile men here. Handle with care.

Joan: Thank you for being sensitive to the situation of the men here. We appreciate it.