It is interesting that some one posted a photo of that Elliott Rodger guy, who committed homicide due to being incel. I wonder if the motive for what he did was actually lack of hope rather than just being incel. I wonder if he thought something like "what kind of woman would hook up with a guy as short as I am 5'3"? I know a guy from the bars who is 5'2 and I feel terrible for him. I remember that even when I was a virgin (lost my virginity older than most), I still did not despair because I knew that I had all of the "tools" to attract a good-looking woman (height, hair, good enough face, muscles), and I had all the optimism in the world. I absolutely yearn for that optimism that I once had. Being as short as 5'3 and incel, he could've lamented that it was "game over" for him due to his height. Not to mention, my friend lives in CA and he tells me how extremely superficial the girls are out there.