Puretech Health - 2017 Annual Report (2018-04-16)

[That Guy]

Haha way to dodge all my questions. Advising someone to take minoxidil and finasteride, two harmless and 99.9 % reversible treatments, one of which is OTC, wow you bold truth teller. I asked you if you have enough faith in alleged upcoming treatments to advise someone to go ahead and transplant, because the treatments will be there if they run out of donor. The fact that you dodged this is telling though

Didn't dodge any of your asinine questions. Yeah, go out and get a transplant if you're willing to risk it. The payoff could be worth it, and augmented by future treatments.

"OH SEE THERE! U DonT Rlay BeLIVEI In Nuuuu trreaTmUNTS!" I can already hear you hammering out on your keyboard.

I have constantly advised people on here, be it on the forum or in PM, to do what they can to treat their hairloss now. It can't be said clearer.

Also there’s not really any purpose served in compiling a FAQ for an utterly ridiculous and implausible “Italian lotion” that has farcical scam written all over it. Why don’t you pat yourself on the back for compiling a FAQ for the Flat Earth Society as well? You have to have a little humility and acknowledge that you were WRONG and that you gave more credence to Brotzu then you should have. That’s a part of growing up too, my cocky millennial friend.

I compiled the FAQ because the thread was (still is I think) the most popular and chaotic thread in subsection. That's the POINT, dumbass.

Like I said, it’s incredibly easy to type a bunch of useless FAQs or “facts” about upcoming treatments and shout down skeptics

You've been shown tons of studies and scientific data and it's never good enough for you because you are inherently an antagonist. Your default position on ANYTHING is adversarial. Your belief is that nothing will work out and everyone and everything is a lie.

You have this position because you like it as its impossible to uproot you from it with facts because again, everything is a lie or scandal to you. It justifies you in fighting people until the sun burns out.

Perhaps if you did you would better understand the frustrations of people who are actually dealing with visible or aggressive loss

I don't care about your frustrations. You're being, a

Should you ever stop behaving as such, we might then be able to talk like normal, civilized people. Until then, you'll be safe in my ignore list.

If Follica is doing a Phase III for something then that thing will never be out in 2018, 2019 and possibly 2020. It's just impossible. You need roughly 1 year for Phase III and one year for FDA approval.

If they are planning to release something without the need of Phase III then it might get released earlier.

Read noisette's posts.

 

[Cue Bald]

I am a user from 2007, and to attempt to compare what is developing now to then is laughable. I get your gripes with development, but we are in nowhere near the same situation as we were then. If we have a hard time taking these companies seriously anymore, do you think investors don’t feel the same doubt before getting involved with another company’s attempt? Science is improving astronomically, and you have to have the patience for it to get there safely and effectively.

OK well in 2007 i would have been on dutasteride + nizoral, now it is 2018 what should i be on that is more effective than dutasteride? (RU and CB are less effective they just have less sides) go back to 2007 on these boards and you can read exactly the same shite that is posted here now.
HM about to enter clinical trials, phase 2, new studies, full regrowth, out in 2 years etc. but it never happened, the big HM company now sells HAIR SYSTEMS. we won't have anything better than finasteride/dutasteride for 30+ years.
infact i might start my own website, hairlosscure2050, the end of hair loss and balding by 2050

 

[DanielDüsentrieb]

OK well in 2007 i would have been on dutasteride + nizoral, now it is 2018 what should i be on that is more effective than dutasteride? (RU and CB are less effective they just have less sides) go back to 2007 on these boards and you can read exactly the same shite that is posted here now.
HM about to enter clinical trials, phase 2, new studies, full regrowth, out in 2 years etc. but it never happened, the big HM company now sells HAIR SYSTEMS. we won't have anything better than finasteride/dutasteride for 30+ years.
infact i might start my own website, hairlosscure2050, the end of hair loss and balding by 2050

Is that a well educated guess based on facts or is this a wild assumption based on a pessimistic mood?

I belive it is the later one.

And for example the progress of haircloning is undeniable in the last decade.

When I m right informed a hairloss company doing a phase 3 trial is something historycal. So obviously an other situation than back in 2007.

Btw if you so sure nothing will come out before 2050 why wasting your time here. You can come back in 30 years without missing something.

 

[thomps1523]

OK well in 2007 i would have been on dutasteride + nizoral, now it is 2018 what should i be on that is more effective than dutasteride? (RU and CB are less effective they just have less sides) go back to 2007 on these boards and you can read exactly the same shite that is posted here now.
HM about to enter clinical trials, phase 2, new studies, full regrowth, out in 2 years etc. but it never happened, the big HM company now sells HAIR SYSTEMS. we won't have anything better than finasteride/dutasteride for 30+ years.
infact i might start my own website, hairlosscure2050, the end of hair loss and balding by 2050

My mother in law just passed away due to leukemia, and guess what it was treated with... chemo, a therapy that has been around for years. Just out of curiosity do you believe we’re further away, or closer to putting many more cancers into remission than we were in the 80’s, 90’s, and early 00’s? Name one company that took a regrowth technique beyond phase 2 of fda trials until this year, because we’re watching that happen now. Not only that, but Tsuji and sheisido are pushing their techniques through japan, because they can’t get it out fast enough, and want to skip phase 3. I get your frustration, but the reality is you have two options at this point. Act like an entitled crybaby if time frames don’t meet your needs, or be patient.

 

[IncognitoMan]

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Just use Wayback Machine and look at the snapshot in February

For reference, this is what it looks like now:
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Unfortunately, if you look at their 2016 Annual Report (http://puretechhealth.com/images/investors/4260_PureTech_ARA_Spreads.pdf) it shows phase 2 all the way completed. That report was released in April of 2017... so, maybe it just took them awhile to update their website?

 

[SamFT]

Unfortunately, if you look at their 2016 Annual Report (http://puretechhealth.com/images/investors/4260_PureTech_ARA_Spreads.pdf) it shows phase 2 all the way completed. That report was released in April of 2017... so, maybe it just took them awhile to update their website?

Maybe. Either way though they are almost done with their optimization study and then starting phase 3.

 

[pinotq]

FYI Follica must be very close to initiating their phase 3 clinical trail as Puretech has again modified their pipleline page, this time adding "/pivotal" after the phase 3 time line description and adding an additional time line segment labeled "Filing": http://puretechhealth.com/puretech-pipeline/our-pipeline/details/wound-induced-neogenesis-rain

 

[razzmatazz91]

Anyone here know how long this phase3 will take (until final data readout) once it begins?

 

[Hate da Bt]

Anyone here know how long this phase3 will take (until final data readout) once it begins?

Don't expect a release in the US before 2020 (if it's ever released), Razz.

 

[SamFT]

Anyone here know how long this phase3 will take (until final data readout) once it begins?

Phase three can take 1-4 years. But with this treatment there may be an acception. There has been exceptions before as well for clinical trials.

 

[Kagaho]

http://puretechhealth.com/reports-presentations/1041-notice-of-2018-half-yearly-results

Tuesday 11 September 2018

Lets hope we have new info.

The optimization study should have ended by now

 

[Pephair]

Here we go! (Mario voice)

 

[That Guy]

http://puretechhealth.com/reports-presentations/1041-notice-of-2018-half-yearly-results

Tuesday 11 September 2018

Lets hope we have new info.

The optimization study should have ended by now

I'm excited to see what they have to say.

Regardless, crying commences in T-minus....

 

[kiwipilu]

I miss @Noisette ..
I'm missing breaking news

 

[Baldybald1]

I miss @Noisette ..
I'm missing breaking news

Me too, I miss him and swoope also and of course xaser the Superman guy

 

[Badbald]

are they going to talk about their hairloss product though I cant see anything to do with AA on that link

 

[br1]

This sh*t gives me anxiety.
Can somebody put me in a coma for 5 days?

Living with baldness is like a social coma.

Have a good day.

 

[kiwi666]

are they going to talk about their hairloss product though I cant see anything to do with AA on that link

Sadly their positivity and their pursuit towards a cure was overshadowed by your complaining and negativity.

At least they were on topic!!!

 

[Xaser94]

Me too, I miss him and swoope also and of course xaser the Superman guy

I'm still lurking here and there. Started finasteride in Janurary and just finished 7 months on it. No regrowth but holding onto what I have with no sides. I've decided holding onto what I have while I wait for Follica/Samumed for regrowth is probably the best bet. I'm trying to focus all my energy in career/gf/working out until something that can regrow comes to fruition, and I hope everyone is doing the same.

finasteride is scary, but I really do regret I didn't start earlier in the balding process. I would have stayed a Norwood 2 instead of 3. If your reading this and are contemplating taking finasteride, do it! The peace of mind alone is worth it. Obviously it is up to you to ultimately make the decision but I would look to the people on the forum you have gotten know and trust, and see what their regimen is to see what their experience has been.

 

[Baldybald1]

I'm still lurking here and there. Started finasteride in Janurary and just finished 7 months on it. No regrowth but holding onto what I have with no sides. I've decided holding onto what I have while I wait for Follica/Samumed for regrowth is probably the best bet. I'm trying to focus all my energy in career/gf/working out until something that can regrow comes to fruition, and I hope everyone is doing the same.

finasteride is scary, but I really do regret I didn't start earlier in the balding process. I would have stayed a Norwood 2 instead of 3. If your reading this and are contemplating taking finasteride, do it! The peace of mind alone is worth it. Obviously it is up to you to ultimately make the decision but I would look to the people on the forum you have gotten know and trust, and see what their regimen is to see what their experience has been.

No don’t worry about finasteride side, I also started very late and I regret now. I wish I started when I was 17 and not 23. Anyways good to see you again because you are important here !